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  • mrclutch
    MVP
    • Nov 2008
    • 2369

    #31
    Re: [How to] avoid network drops when playing online

    Pared,

    I almost never get drops and I make alot of coaching and defensive changes almost every game. But here's the big thing...I never change my camera.
    I'll try to look out for a couple games and see if my opponent changes his camera and watch for the outcome.
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    • Qui3tStorm617
      Rookie
      • Oct 2011
      • 18

      #32
      Re: [How to] avoid network drops when playing online

      I played a guy who picked the Knicks and we were able to make it through the whole game. I did my normal pre-game adjustments. It looked like the only settings he changed were the camera angle. He didn't go into any coaching settings.

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      • Pared
        Legen - WAIT FOR IT
        • Feb 2003
        • 39337

        #33
        Re: [How to] avoid network drops when playing online

        Originally posted by JWiLL02
        The fact that all these workarounds are necessary to avoid a dropped game between two great connections is absurd.
        Another post like this and it will receive an infraction.

        Want to whine? Do it in another thread.
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        • Pared
          Legen - WAIT FOR IT
          • Feb 2003
          • 39337

          #34
          Re: [How to] avoid network drops when playing online

          Originally posted by mrclutch
          Pared,

          I almost never get drops and I make alot of coaching and defensive changes almost every game. But here's the big thing...I never change my camera.
          I'll try to look out for a couple games and see if my opponent changes his camera and watch for the outcome.
          That may be it but this is specific to the 2nd quarter.

          Originally posted by Qui3tStorm617
          I played a guy who picked the Knicks and we were able to make it through the whole game. I did my normal pre-game adjustments. It looked like the only settings he changed were the camera angle. He didn't go into any coaching settings.
          Yeah I think the Knicks problem was addressed.
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          • TUSS11
            MVP
            • Nov 2007
            • 1483

            #35
            Re: [How to] avoid network drops when playing online

            Originally posted by Pared
            I think you infected me.
            Haha! Chia gave you an XTD. You may want to stop by the clinic.

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            • ManiacMatt1782
              Who? Giroux!
              • Jul 2006
              • 3982

              #36
              Re: [How to] avoid network drops when playing online

              I hope this bug gets fixed. I like adding a few different plays to my play book.
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              • ManiacMatt1782
                Who? Giroux!
                • Jul 2006
                • 3982

                #37
                Re: [How to] avoid network drops when playing online

                Actually a simple solution to this problem would be to allow the selection of different playbooks, including custom playbooks online. I commend them for being able to edit your playbook and save it in online association. (yes pared, I do like somethings about OA) we should be able to set our playbook in the team select screen. Especially for play with friends games. Obviously you can add plays in OA and not have the game bug out. I think it could be done for vs games too, if the approach I mentioned is added.
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                • Pared
                  Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 39337

                  #38
                  Re: [How to] avoid network drops when playing online

                  Originally posted by ManiacMatt1782
                  I hope this bug gets fixed. I like adding a few different plays to my play book.
                  I'm pretty sure it can be addressed - but the real concern are the other drops people are seeing like the one mentioned here in the 2nd quarter that is NOT attributed to playbooks. If anyone has time to spend with Chia I'm sure it can only benefit us in the long run.
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                  • Kingofthecouch
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                    • Sep 2005
                    • 293

                    #39
                    Re: [How to] avoid network drops when playing online

                    I discovered the playbook issue about a month ago and Pared is correct about having to reset 2K (to reset the playbook back to default) before you can finish a game without an error. I stopped changing my playbook because of this. I hope there is a fix coming.
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                    • chia51
                      Banned
                      • Jul 2005
                      • 1912

                      #40
                      Re: [How to] avoid network drops when playing online

                      "no players remaining" again, this time all the way in the 4th w/ 5:00 to go.

                      This game was good, good connection, no hiccups, no changes other than the standard change of camera and coach settings (t/o, subs, playvision).

                      There was no OTF defensive changes, no p/b changes.

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                      • ManiacMatt1782
                        Who? Giroux!
                        • Jul 2006
                        • 3982

                        #41
                        Re: [How to] avoid network drops when playing online

                        Originally posted by Pared
                        I'm pretty sure it can be addressed - but the real concern are the other drops people are seeing like the one mentioned here in the 2nd quarter that is NOT attributed to playbooks. If anyone has time to spend with Chia I'm sure it can only benefit us in the long run.
                        The playbook one was fixed according to the patch notes.
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                        • chia51
                          Banned
                          • Jul 2005
                          • 1912

                          #42
                          Re: [How to] avoid network drops when playing online

                          Just to keep y'all in the loop. It definitely is not my connection and more than likely, an issue with the other guys. He has a wireless connection and it seems that either the server doesn't like that or he is losing packets, either way it needs to be looked into.

                          Played that guy today and asked him to wire it up instead, and it went fine.

                          So here are my working theories:
                          -Client is losing packets, causing a timeout from the server.
                          -Server may not be configured properly for a wireless connection and a wired connection in the same game. (depending on how much packet loss is occurring)

                          Even if either one isn't right, it definitely has something to do with his wireless connection and 2k servers. It could also have something to do with 2k updating their net infrastructure last year and updating their net code this year. Probably more likely the net code since last year that guy and I could play seamlessly.

                          Also would like to iterate that this may not be the first time 2k has had a problem with wireless connections. I will have to do an internet search, but I've had this exact problem before with 2k back in either 07, 08 or 09, can't remember but at the time I looked into it and found that 2k needed certain ports opened and also wireless routers were causing some issues.

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                          • guesswhozbak17
                            Rookie
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 192

                            #43
                            Re: [How to] avoid network drops when playing online

                            I have an issue where I can't seem to get a specific user into my locker room yet EVERYONE else can.

                            When I send him an invite, he says there's an error that says the "game session is no longer available" and when he sends me an invite I receive the same message.

                            We tried playing team up and i can't invite him nor can he invite me. If another person invites us both, we have no problems. Can't play against him in OA either. We were able to play against each other without any issue last week. This has been going on for a week now.

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                            • chia51
                              Banned
                              • Jul 2005
                              • 1912

                              #44
                              Re: [How to] avoid network drops when playing online

                              Originally posted by guesswhozbak17
                              I have an issue where I can't seem to get a specific user into my locker room yet EVERYONE else can.

                              When I send him an invite, he says there's an error that says the "game session is no longer available" and when he sends me an invite I receive the same message.

                              We tried playing team up and i can't invite him nor can he invite me. If another person invites us both, we have no problems. Can't play against him in OA either. We were able to play against each other without any issue last week. This has been going on for a week now.
                              First thing I would do is try and find out what changed, if anything changed. Have you two been able to play before? If so, how long ago?

                              If not, what are y'alls setups? Wired, Wireless?

                              Once that is figured out, the next thing I would look at is your NAT settings... is either one of you Strict or Moderate? You can check that out in the Xbox Dashboard Network Settings Area. (Tip: MW3, MW2 tell you at the main multiplayer screens, faster than going through the dash if you have the games)

                              Get all that info and post it on here and we'll get you guys to connect, eventually.

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                              • guesswhozbak17
                                Rookie
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 192

                                #45
                                Re: [How to] avoid network drops when playing online

                                Originally posted by chia51
                                First thing I would do is try and find out what changed, if anything changed. Have you two been able to play before? If so, how long ago?

                                If not, what are y'alls setups? Wired, Wireless?

                                Once that is figured out, the next thing I would look at is your NAT settings... is either one of you Strict or Moderate? You can check that out in the Xbox Dashboard Network Settings Area. (Tip: MW3, MW2 tell you at the main multiplayer screens, faster than going through the dash if you have the games)

                                Get all that info and post it on here and we'll get you guys to connect, eventually.
                                Nothing changed from my end. Nothing changed from his end (As far as I know).

                                Yes, we were able to play before. We were able to play in 2K11 and since launch on 2K12 up until about last week.

                                We are both wired.

                                Couldn't find the NAT settings you were talking about though.

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