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  • JWiLL02
    MVP
    • Oct 2003
    • 1080

    #46
    Re: [How to] avoid network drops when playing online

    Originally posted by Pared
    Another post like this and it will receive an infraction.

    Want to whine? Do it in another thread.
    An infraction? Did you bother to read past that first line? I posted my workaround for OA games...

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    • chia51
      Banned
      • Jul 2005
      • 1912

      #47
      Re: [How to] avoid network drops when playing online

      Originally posted by guesswhozbak17
      Nothing changed from my end. Nothing changed from his end (As far as I know).

      Yes, we were able to play before. We were able to play in 2K11 and since launch on 2K12 up until about last week.

      We are both wired.

      Couldn't find the NAT settings you were talking about though.
      Here: http://support.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-l...at-type-strict

      If you don't get this message than your NAT should be open and good to go and it crosses out that as being the problem.

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      • guesswhozbak17
        Rookie
        • Feb 2008
        • 192

        #48
        Re: [How to] avoid network drops when playing online

        Thank you for the link. I didn't get the error. I will have my friend do this test to find out if he receives that error. I will get back to you in a couple of hours with his results.

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        • Pared
          Legen - WAIT FOR IT
          • Feb 2003
          • 39337

          #49
          Re: [How to] avoid network drops when playing online

          Yes, unfortunately a drop can be caused by EITHER of the two parties... so one person can have a perfectly fine connection and if the other causes a glitch, etc. then the game drops and both think it's either 2k's servers or the other. No way of knowing.

          The "no remaining players" makes sense - that means his connection may be timing out. That still doesn't explain our drops unexpectedly.

          Originally posted by ManiacMatt1782
          The playbook one was fixed according to the patch notes.
          Interesting.
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          • qnzballa5
            Rookie
            • Jul 2007
            • 370

            #50
            Re: [How to] avoid network drops when playing online

            Playbook network issue for 360 still is not fixed.. Y??????

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            • ManiacMatt1782
              Who? Giroux!
              • Jul 2006
              • 3982

              #51
              Re: [How to] avoid network drops when playing online

              Originally posted by qnzballa5
              Playbook network issue for 360 still is not fixed.. Y??????
              Are you sure, they claim its fixed.
              http://www.operationsports.com/forum...-tomorrow.html

              See 2nd bullet point under online.
              www.twitch.tv/maniacmatt1228
              www.youtube.com/maniacmatt1782

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              • chia51
                Banned
                • Jul 2005
                • 1912

                #52
                Re: [How to] avoid network drops when playing online

                Originally posted by ManiacMatt1782
                Are you sure, they claim its fixed.
                http://www.operationsports.com/forum...-tomorrow.html

                See 2nd bullet point under online.
                In OA games, they took out the option to edit/alter your PB in-game. So if that is 'fixing' it, then yes in that mode it is 'fixed'.

                I have not had the time to check, LR/Ranked games to see if they took it out or actually fixed it.

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                • chia51
                  Banned
                  • Jul 2005
                  • 1912

                  #53
                  Re: [How to] avoid network drops when playing online

                  Update again.

                  Have tried to play 4 games today, all bombed out.

                  First 3 were OA games and each time we received a "net error" d/c.

                  Last game was a wired to wired connect and got a "no players remaining" d/c... we were in a XBL party, when we got dropped, it split our party up into two seperate parties and kicked both of us back to my locker room. (my LR started the game).

                  Matt, you can change PB in LR/Ranked games, not in OA though.

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                  • Pared
                    Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 39337

                    #54
                    Re: [How to] avoid network drops when playing online

                    Were the "Network Errors" all at the same time? (I.E. second quarter)

                    That was consistent when it happened for me.
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                    • ManiacMatt1782
                      Who? Giroux!
                      • Jul 2006
                      • 3982

                      #55
                      Re: [How to] avoid network drops when playing online

                      Originally posted by chia51
                      Update again.

                      Have tried to play 4 games today, all bombed out.

                      First 3 were OA games and each time we received a "net error" d/c.

                      Last game was a wired to wired connect and got a "no players remaining" d/c... we were in a XBL party, when we got dropped, it split our party up into two seperate parties and kicked both of us back to my locker room. (my LR started the game).

                      Matt, you can change PB in LR/Ranked games, not in OA though.
                      Chia, no need to edit your playbook ingame in online association, I never have an issue in online association with my playbook saved from the coaching menu in online association, when you make edits there, they store serverside and any plays you added will stay there. Unless there are new issues after the patch.

                      quick match and play with friends on the other hand, I would be good for 1 game, then if i forgot and picked a play I added, without fail, the game would drop, I havent tested this for myself post patch. But prepatch this would happen without fail.
                      Last edited by ManiacMatt1782; 12-14-2011, 07:04 PM.
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                      • chia51
                        Banned
                        • Jul 2005
                        • 1912

                        #56
                        Re: [How to] avoid network drops when playing online

                        Originally posted by ManiacMatt1782
                        Chia, no need to edit your playbook ingame in online association, I never have an issue in online association with my playbook saved from the coaching menu in online association, when you make edits there, they store serverside and any plays you added will stay there. Unless there are new issues after the patch.

                        quick match and play with friends on the other hand, I would be good for 1 game, then if i forgot and picked a play I added, without fail, the game would drop, I havent tested this for myself post patch. But prepatch this would happen without fail.
                        Matt, it should be fixed for LR games.

                        OA, the option to change your PB ingame used to be there and now its not. So they took it out for a reason, I never had a problem with OA pb's either.

                        @ pared, they (net error) all dropped 1st quarter

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                        • guesswhozbak17
                          Rookie
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 192

                          #57
                          Re: [How to] avoid network drops when playing online

                          Originally posted by chia51
                          Here: http://support.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-l...at-type-strict

                          If you don't get this message than your NAT should be open and good to go and it crosses out that as being the problem.
                          So he did all the required tests as well and still..we both receive the "This session is no longer available" pop when sending invites to the locker room. And other possible solutions?

                          We are trying to start an 30 man OA and it will be kind of stupid if the two admins (he and I) can't even play against each other

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                          • basketballfreak24
                            Rookie
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 92

                            #58
                            Re: [How to] avoid network drops when playing online

                            get alot of network error drops when playing against the top teams and im ahead. seems like when im supposed to get a loose ball, the game coding wants the top team to get the ball and it cant accept that im smacking a top team. next thing i know, the game crashes. kinda weird but it happens alot in the 4th quarter when im spanking teams like Miami or L.A. its like the game coding rage quits on me. lol.

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                            • Pared
                              Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 39337

                              #59
                              Re: [How to] avoid network drops when playing online

                              The more information people can provide here, the better. I can't continue to stress that enough.

                              Here's a quick format of how you can help provide feedback:

                              Error Type - No Players Remaining or Network Connection Error.
                              Game Type - VS in Locker Room or VS Quick Match
                              Qtr. Length (If Custom)
                              Teams chosen
                              Did you change your defensive settings?
                              Did you use the quick defensive changes that are new this year? (Left on DPad)
                              Did you use a different camera angle from default?

                              Any other info. is very helpful and will only help us all out in the long run.
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                              • chia51
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                                • Jul 2005
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                                #60
                                Re: [How to] avoid network drops when playing online

                                Originally posted by guesswhozbak17
                                So he did all the required tests as well and still..we both receive the "This session is no longer available" pop when sending invites to the locker room. And other possible solutions?

                                We are trying to start an 30 man OA and it will be kind of stupid if the two admins (he and I) can't even play against each other
                                Can you guys do a XBL chat room w/o problems?

                                Any other games you two play w/o problems?

                                Originally posted by basketballfreak24
                                get alot of network error drops when playing against the top teams and im ahead. seems like when im supposed to get a loose ball, the game coding wants the top team to get the ball and it cant accept that im smacking a top team. next thing i know, the game crashes. kinda weird but it happens alot in the 4th quarter when im spanking teams like Miami or L.A. its like the game coding rage quits on me. lol.
                                Net Errors are due to the two users losing sync between each other (4th Q Net Errors) or not syncing at the start (1st Q Net Errors), well at least that's how I understand it.

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