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  • Padgoi
    Banned
    • Oct 2008
    • 1873

    #826
    Re: NBA 2K12 Patch 1.04 Available Now - Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

    Originally posted by FLIGHTWHITE
    Its obvious you didn't read my post. I have yet to experience it because I have never played the way Nogster had explained and I'm sure Nogster was just experimenting when he was posting his experience.

    My comment is for those that actually play that way meaning scoring 100pts with one player. Again I will never experience what you guys have because I spread the ball around so much. Have I've seen doubles? Yes. Do others have issues with doubles? Yes. Do I feel there going overboard with the double team? Yes and no. Nogster I feel gave an example of what happens and I don't think he plays that way. I have a problem when some actually plays that way and then come on here screaming that the game is broken when in fact there playing style is the issue imo.

    Nogster I hope you understand my take and it is in no way taking a shot at your post because what you stated happens because others have experienced it.

    It's not about defending a game. For me its about having a cool conversation about mine/others gaming experience and finding ways to make it better if possible. Nothin more nothing less.

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    But isn't the point of basketball (as nogster attested to earlier) to utilize your best weapon on the court? The point of basketball is to get the ball in the hole. The point is not to utilize every player evenly and fairly and move the ball around. That's a STRATEGY used in order to receive the goal of . . . putting the ball in the basket. The point nogster is making is that if you can score 100 points with one player and win every single game that way, I'm pretty sure EVERYONE would do it because . . . that's the point of basketball. No, it's not fun, but it's successful.

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    • Flightwhite24
      Hall Of Fame
      • Jul 2005
      • 12094

      #827
      Re: NBA 2K12 Patch 1.04 Available Now - Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

      Originally posted by Padgoi
      But isn't the point of basketball (as nogster attested to earlier) to utilize your best weapon on the court? The point of basketball is to get the ball in the hole. The point is not to utilize every player evenly and fairly and move the ball around. That's a STRATEGY used in order to receive the goal of . . . putting the ball in the basket. The point nogster is making is that if you can score 100 points with one player and win every single game that way, I'm pretty sure EVERYONE would do it because . . . that's the point of basketball. No, it's not fun, but it's successful.
      Trust me I understand what Nogster and others are having a problem with. I'm just saying I would never take 1 player and try to score 100 pts. Personally as I've mentioned for me the double teams are fine and I just wish that there was a slider that could be adjusted to solve the the lack of doubles that some wish happened more often.

      Personally I wish everyone could get the experience that they wanted because that damn sure would cut down on some of the threads. Lol. I also have come to the conclusion that no matter what someone is gonna have an issue with something no matter what game developers do and no matter how much they try and fix. Don't believe me. Watch what happens when this roster update comes out and the accusations of how it RED-RINGED my system.
      Last edited by Flightwhite24; 01-06-2012, 07:15 PM.
      The poster formerly know as "FLIGHTWHITE"

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      • NINJAK2
        *S *dd*ct
        • Jan 2003
        • 6185

        #828
        Re: NBA 2K12 Patch 1.04 Available Now - Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

        Originally posted by Padgoi
        But isn't the point of basketball (as nogster attested to earlier) to utilize your best weapon on the court? The point of basketball is to get the ball in the hole. The point is not to utilize every player evenly and fairly and move the ball around. That's a STRATEGY used in order to receive the goal of . . . putting the ball in the basket. The point nogster is making is that if you can score 100 points with one player and win every single game that way, I'm pretty sure EVERYONE would do it because . . . that's the point of basketball. No, it's not fun, but it's successful.
        I think the point FLIGHT is trying to make Padgoi is he runs plays and keeps everyone involved in his offense by nature and he doesn't try to dominate with one guy. Ofcourse the point of the game is to put the ball in the basket but everyone has their own methods of achieving that. Because he utilized that particular strategy, he does not experience the same issues to the level of others.

        It's like that old conversation/joke:
        Patient: Hey doctor, it hurts when I do this..
        Dr: Well, then stop doing that.....

        Not saying 2k should sit idle and do nothing or that it is not an issue at all but some are experiencing differences in regards to this probably based on their style of play(I myself have seen doubles in the post or in halfcourt on hot players[not full on traps but help defenders on perimeter]). I personally have or would ever take every shot with one guy whether it's MJ or Shaq to discover this to the point of causing me potential aggravation. You would think a double would come though in the situations nog, CV, and others have mentioned and I get that point 100% if you aren't getting that...
        Last edited by NINJAK2; 01-06-2012, 07:48 PM.
        EA and 2k have the unfortunate task of trying to balance on a tightrope of fun and sim while trying not to fall 10,000 feet to their death. Instead of a safety net waiting down below there will just be angry customers quick to move out of the way and talk of their failure.

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        • Flightwhite24
          Hall Of Fame
          • Jul 2005
          • 12094

          #829
          Re: NBA 2K12 Patch 1.04 Available Now - Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

          Originally posted by NINJAK2
          I think the point FLIGHT is trying to make Padgoi is he runs plays and keeps everyone involved in his offense by nature and he doesn't try to dominate with one guy. Ofcourse the point of the game is to put the ball in the basket but everyone has their own methods of achieving that. Because he utilized that particular strategy, he does not experience the same issues to the level of others.
          This is it in a nutshell.
          The poster formerly know as "FLIGHTWHITE"

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          • Whaaaazuuuuup
            MVP
            • Jul 2002
            • 3620

            #830
            Re: NBA 2K12 Patch 1.04 Available Now - Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

            Why haven't the 2k developer been anywhere to be found?? Last yr they were more than happy to help us. This yr, ghost!!...
            I am glad I got the Buell- I love riding it, I love the oddball looks I get on the road- I love people asking "What IS that thing?" I love flying into a corner WAY too hot, scared spitless and sure I'll never hold it at this speed- and hearing the bike whisper "Sissy!"...

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            • Court_vision
              Banned
              • Oct 2002
              • 8290

              #831
              Re: NBA 2K12 Patch 1.04 Available Now - Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

              Originally posted by Whaaaazuuuuup
              Why haven't the 2k developer been anywhere to be found?? Last yr they were more than happy to help us. This yr, ghost!!...

              The team was working on that DLC for a while...and now Beluba and co. are already well into NBA 2K13.

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              • 1D4ever
                Banned
                • Dec 2009
                • 281

                #832
                Re: NBA 2K12 Patch 1.04 Available Now - Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

                The defense on this game is a joke. I don't think I have ever seen a legit double team. I scored 102 last night with a created Harold Miner (he's rated about an 80) he was not doubled once. I really didn't feel I was forcing it to him either, Wade had 27 and Lebron had about 30 as well, nobody was doubled the whole game. I was playing the 97-98 Spurs on hall of fame level and I still dropped a little over 200 points on them. The abilty to score a ton with one player is no issue you can do that with most bb sims it's that fact that the cpu couldn't seem to care less is my issue. The game is great in some ways but I can't think of an NBA live game that had this issue. Come on in 1993 Bulls vs blazers use to attempt to double and the top game 20 years later can't do that, smh.

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                • Flightwhite24
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Jul 2005
                  • 12094

                  #833
                  Re: NBA 2K12 Patch 1.04 Available Now - Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

                  Originally posted by 1D4ever
                  The defense on this game is a joke. I don't think I have ever seen a legit double team. I scored 102 last night with a created Harold Miner (he's rated about an 80) he was not doubled once. I really didn't feel I was forcing it to him either, Wade had 27 and Lebron had about 30 as well, nobody was doubled the whole game. I was playing the 97-98 Spurs on hall of fame level and I still dropped a little over 200 points on them. The abilty to score a ton with one player is no issue you can do that with most bb sims it's that fact that the cpu couldn't seem to care less is my issue. The game is great in some ways but I can't think of an NBA live game that had this issue. Come on in 1993 Bulls vs blazers use to attempt to double and the top game 20 years later can't do that, smh.
                  Wait a minute, you scored 200 pts?? 24 min qtrs?? why?? Better yet how?
                  The poster formerly know as "FLIGHTWHITE"

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                  • Vni
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 14833

                    #834
                    Re: NBA 2K12 Patch 1.04 Available Now - Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

                    How do you score 200 points a game in HOF?

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                    • stillfeelme
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 2407

                      #835
                      Re: NBA 2K12 Patch 1.04 Available Now - Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

                      Originally posted by 1D4ever
                      The defense on this game is a joke. I don't think I have ever seen a legit double team. I scored 102 last night with a created Harold Miner (he's rated about an 80) he was not doubled once. I really didn't feel I was forcing it to him either, Wade had 27 and Lebron had about 30 as well, nobody was doubled the whole game. I was playing the 97-98 Spurs on hall of fame level and I still dropped a little over 200 points on them. The abilty to score a ton with one player is no issue you can do that with most bb sims it's that fact that the cpu couldn't seem to care less is my issue. The game is great in some ways but I can't think of an NBA live game that had this issue. Come on in 1993 Bulls vs blazers use to attempt to double and the top game 20 years later can't do that, smh.
                      I have to say I have never seen anything close to this and you may have broke the code man. Were you playing with fatigue on? Can you do it again and send a screen shot? Actual All star games can't even achieve those numbers the best of the best with little defense until the fourth quarter.

                      You can't play unrealistically and expect realistic defense or results. Though I do agree that the double team thing is a problem as well as the CPU does not recognize mis-matches and will send no help on switches. The CPU AI doesn't recognize the drive and switch to help. They don't rotate on help well to simulate what happens in the real NBA much more than it happens in this game. They have basically made the CPU on ball defense very high and force contact shots in the paint if you drive too much rather than rotate and leave a man open.

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                      • ill23matic
                        Banned
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 194

                        #836
                        Re: NBA 2K12 Patch 1.04 Available Now - Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

                        Originally posted by Vni
                        How do you score 200 points a game in HOF?

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                        • Flightwhite24
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Jul 2005
                          • 12094

                          #837
                          Re: NBA 2K12 Patch 1.04 Available Now - Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

                          Originally posted by ill23matic
                          You wrong ill23matic

                          I've been sitting here trying to figure out if this is real or a blatant lie???? 200pts??? Maybe he thought he was on HOF???
                          The poster formerly know as "FLIGHTWHITE"

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                          • StB589
                            Rookie
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 37

                            #838
                            Re: NBA 2K12 Patch 1.04 Available Now - Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

                            Am I the only who's actually struggling to score after the patch? Shots that I could make with regularity before the patch I can't even hit anymore. I run plays more often than not, and take the best shots I possibly can but I still get low ratings for shot quality and I'm even shooting airballs from 3 when I try to catch the defense off guard on fast breaks.

                            IDK what the hell happened to my game. I stopped playing for about 3 weeks but I find it hard to believe I fell off that much lol. I play with the Knicks if that matters.
                            Last edited by StB589; 01-09-2012, 02:37 PM. Reason: spelling error

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                            • 1D4ever
                              Banned
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 281

                              #839
                              Re: NBA 2K12 Patch 1.04 Available Now - Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

                              LOL, maybe my copy is busted I'll see If I can pull the stats as I was in Season mode and I'll post a screen shot tomorrow. The CPU the Spurs had 190; I do have the game on somewhat faster speed to attempt to counter act the CPU running like crackheads (It doesn't work) and it was a run and gun game. The CPU aslo goes insane on me in the 4th quater and I have to score a ton just to keep up. Most of my game aren't this high but, I am curious to see what kind of scores you guys are getting. My point was the lack of doubling of a player on his way toward 100.
                              Last edited by 1D4ever; 01-09-2012, 08:22 PM.

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                              • Vni
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 14833

                                #840
                                Re: NBA 2K12 Patch 1.04 Available Now - Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

                                Personnaly I always double team a player when he has over 75 points

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