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  • spankdatazz22
    All Star
    • May 2003
    • 6219

    #886
    Re: NBA 2K12 Patch 1.04 Available Now - Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

    Originally posted by Court_vision
    What it seems to be is that have tried to tweak the engine / add new physics and it's gone badly wrong in terms of defense.
    "Badly wrong"?

    http://www.operationsports.com/forum...nimations.html

    One of the big complaints shortly after 2K11 released was the bumping and restricting of movement. I've seen threads where people complain about it in My Player this year. It's going to be a matter of opinion - some liked the contact last year, some didn't. As I said I love both 2K11 and 2K12 and have had my frustrations with both - so I don't buy into trying to pit them against each other to make a point. These devs have delivered some great games; I trust they know what they're doing and adapt. Not saying the game isn't flawed, I just don't think it's anywhere near as flawed as some of you imply.
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    • Court_vision
      Banned
      • Oct 2002
      • 8290

      #887
      Re: NBA 2K12 Patch 1.04 Available Now - Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

      Originally posted by spankdatazz22
      Not saying the game isn't flawed, I just don't think it's anywhere near as flawed as some of you imply.
      It's not a bad game bro.......but let's just be very clear on one thing.

      When I have 50 points with one player.....and I've just hit 5 straight buckets with that player........the CPU sure as hell should bring a double team over to him.

      If I call an ISO play.......I can go one on one every time, even with a guy on fire and 50 + for the night.

      There's nothing you can say that can dispute this. It's a massive mistake by 2K not to have doubles. This game sells itself as a "SIM" and that's not even close to reality. Kobe never sees a double? Dwight never sees a double? Game on the line and Kobe can ISO and the defense plays him single coverage? If I use the Lakers v T-Wolves and I ISO Kobe, they only guard him single coverage with Luke Ridnour and JJ Barea all game. If I post Kobe up, I can post up JJ Barea ten straight possesions without the defense doubling and simply score over him. It's not even close to reality in this area.

      Other than that, it's a good game. That's a big "error" though.

      I am predominantly using poor teams to get around the problem. I.e. playing with teams who don't have a star wingman or post player. It's not an ideal solution though.

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      • spankdatazz22
        All Star
        • May 2003
        • 6219

        #888
        Re: NBA 2K12 Patch 1.04 Available Now - Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

        Originally posted by Court_vision
        If I call an ISO play.......I can go one on one every time, even with a guy on fire and 50 + for the night.

        There's nothing you can say that can dispute this. It's a massive mistake by 2K not to have doubles. This game sells itself as a "SIM" and that's not even close to reality.
        *sigh* and here we go with this again. I never said it's not an issue. It's not that big an issue TO ME, in part because I don't play that way. If it makes you feel better to say the game isn't a "SIM", then fine have at it. I'm going back to playing
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        • Court_vision
          Banned
          • Oct 2002
          • 8290

          #889
          Re: NBA 2K12 Patch 1.04 Available Now - Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

          Originally posted by spankdatazz22
          *sigh* and here we go with this again. I never said it's not an issue. It's not that big an issue TO ME, in part because I don't play that way. If it makes you feel better to say the game isn't a "SIM", then fine have at it. I'm going back to playing
          I don't get it..you "don't play this way"...so you never post Dwight when you use Orlando? You never go inside playing with them?

          And when you use a team with a superstar, you never run ISO plays for them?

          I don't get "how you play" man...you just pass the ball around like college ball or something? Inside play and ISOs and doubles are a massive part of NBA ball.

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          • Court_vision
            Banned
            • Oct 2002
            • 8290

            #890
            Re: NBA 2K12 Patch 1.04 Available Now - Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

            Originally posted by Altimus

            If you're enjoying the game, good for you. Me and Court and some of the other guys aren't here to complain about the game but point out problems which need to be addressed. This also has nothing to do with playing the game a certain way. Sim, not sim, doesn't matter. The defense in this game is broken. I don't need to show a full video to explain it and I don't need to see someone else play to know that it's not.
            Well said...

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            • Court_vision
              Banned
              • Oct 2002
              • 8290

              #891
              Re: NBA 2K12 Patch 1.04 Available Now - Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

              Using the T-Wolves...the game is excellent. Tonnes of movement and passing. No real dominant wingman or post guy (Love is more of a hustle player and plays at the three point line a lot). They are a hell of a lot of fun to use.

              IMO this game is great with a team like the T-Wolves...and completely broken if you want to use a team like the Lakers (Kobe never gets doubled, Gasol can basically score at will in the post)...and it's badly broken if you use Orlando (tried everyone's sliders and Dwight can hit 80% from the field basically all game and never see a double and all Orlando's other guys are shooters, so they need double team kick outs / space).

              Using the T-Wolves, Suns, Cavs etc though...it's a hell of a lot of fun.

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              • cashblingz
                Rookie
                • Dec 2006
                • 52

                #892
                Re: NBA 2K12 Patch 1.04 Available Now - Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

                i have been a harsh critic of the game but i gotta say lately the game has been growing on me. i play association with my bro using player locks (i am c paul and he is griffin for the clips, allstar sim) and we are just having a great time. teammate ai seems to be useful this year as they can make open shot and occasionally make some nice moves to the bucket. we were losing big early in the association (8 game losing streak) and got really frustrated. we almost called it quit but lately we been getting familiar with the tendencies of our players and been on a roll (won 8 out of the last 9 games) so now we are 13-17. and as we won the team chemistry got better as well (now 85%) and our teammates are doing better. its a blast using c paul to blow by your cover and throw alleys off the backboard to blake. haahaaaaa

                the game is not perfect but you know... i think it does give you a setting that allows you to do the most things you wanna do on the court. Just gotta play by the game's rules.

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                • cashblingz
                  Rookie
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 52

                  #893
                  Re: NBA 2K12 Patch 1.04 Available Now - Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

                  Originally posted by Court_vision
                  Using the T-Wolves...the game is excellent. Tonnes of movement and passing. No real dominant wingman or post guy (Love is more of a hustle player and plays at the three point line a lot). They are a hell of a lot of fun to use.

                  IMO this game is great with a team like the T-Wolves...and completely broken if you want to use a team like the Lakers (Kobe never gets doubled, Gasol can basically score at will in the post)...and it's badly broken if you use Orlando (tried everyone's sliders and Dwight can hit 80% from the field basically all game and never see a double and all Orlando's other guys are shooters, so they need double team kick outs / space).

                  Using the T-Wolves, Suns, Cavs etc though...it's a hell of a lot of fun.
                  i am using t wolves as well for my own association. love's got a great 3 pt shot but man i am having a tough time using him to get rebs. usually beasley could out jump him everytime or love is too slow and allows the cpu for off reb. its fun using rubio setting teammates up though, i am avging 9 assists with him

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                  • mauro78
                    Ion6 Studios
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 616

                    #894
                    Re: NBA 2K12 Patch 1.04 Available Now - Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

                    If nothing will change (1.05 patch or a very solid PC patch) I'll stay with 2k11 PC edition post patch. 2K11 with some good graphics patches makes the game looks awesome:

                    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/CT3Py-Vo54E" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

                    in 2K11 I love CPU defense and I'm having some exciting games. I usually play with default sliders (simulation) on PRO level......and they DT me if Kobe or DH12 got some hot ^_^

                    I really want to love 2k12 too...but since now I can't enjoy it very much. We'll get The Show 12 in a month....It will make 2k13 wait less painful!
                    Last edited by mauro78; 01-29-2012, 12:50 PM.
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                    • DJ
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Apr 2003
                      • 17756

                      #895
                      Re: NBA 2K12 Patch 1.04 Available Now - Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

                      Originally posted by Court_vision
                      Using the T-Wolves...the game is excellent. Tonnes of movement and passing. No real dominant wingman or post guy (Love is more of a hustle player and plays at the three point line a lot). They are a hell of a lot of fun to use.

                      IMO this game is great with a team like the T-Wolves...and completely broken if you want to use a team like the Lakers (Kobe never gets doubled, Gasol can basically score at will in the post)...and it's badly broken if you use Orlando (tried everyone's sliders and Dwight can hit 80% from the field basically all game and never see a double and all Orlando's other guys are shooters, so they need double team kick outs / space).

                      Using the T-Wolves, Suns, Cavs etc though...it's a hell of a lot of fun.
                      Lob City would be a good choice as well.

                      I played against the T-Wolves yesterday using OKC (SimWorld roter) and they were tough to put away. Love was dominant on the boards and Rubio was dropping some sweet no-look dimes, and even threw a couple of alley-oops.

                      I'll have to give them a run and see what I can do with them. I'm not a big fan of their court (I don't like the two-shaded hardwood color), but as a Syracuse fan, part of me wants to use them and turn Wesley Johnson into a solid NBA player.
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                      • muddrow23
                        Banned
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 37

                        #896
                        Re: NBA 2K12 Patch 1.04 Available Now - Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

                        im sorry but the fast break logic for the player on the user team is horrible. why everytime I get a fastbreak straight to the basket my dummy players always run out to the arc when no one is in the front of him freaking pathetic!!!! get your head in the game 2k

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                        • stealyerface
                          MVP
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 1803

                          #897
                          Re: NBA 2K12 Patch 1.04 Available Now - Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

                          For those who have played the game pre and post patch(es)..

                          I received the game for Christmas, and have been playing with sliders, but no updates as far as the game goes with regards to patches.

                          I am experiencing NO stutter in frame rate, no freezing, and overall, although I have won one game out of the twenty I have played, I am enjoying the challenge immensely.

                          The question is whether or not there is something in the patches to make the game even better, or am I better off just playing it as it is, and doing the roster changes myself?

                          Any thoughts?

                          ~syf
                          "Ain't gonna learn what you don't wanna know"....GD

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                          • DavonBrown
                            MVP
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 1484

                            #898
                            Re: NBA 2K12 Patch 1.04 Available Now - Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

                            Originally posted by stealyerface
                            For those who have played the game pre and post patch(es)..

                            I received the game for Christmas, and have been playing with sliders, but no updates as far as the game goes with regards to patches.

                            I am experiencing NO stutter in frame rate, no freezing, and overall, although I have won one game out of the twenty I have played, I am enjoying the challenge immensely.

                            The question is whether or not there is something in the patches to make the game even better, or am I better off just playing it as it is, and doing the roster changes myself?

                            Any thoughts?

                            ~syf
                            Download the patch.

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                            • stealyerface
                              MVP
                              • Feb 2004
                              • 1803

                              #899
                              Re: NBA 2K12 Patch 1.04 Available Now - Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

                              Got the patch. Love the new passing... Still lost, but it was a close one, and I blew it in the 3rd by playing stupidly.

                              I guess if you play a game that requires you to be smart, and play like you ought to.. How can you beat that?

                              No freeze for me, Rip Hamilton led the team with 21 but my free throw shooting with Boozer cost me the game. That hitch of his is ridiculous...

                              ~syf
                              "Ain't gonna learn what you don't wanna know"....GD

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                              • nova91
                                MVP
                                • Oct 2009
                                • 2074

                                #900
                                Re: NBA 2K12 Patch 1.04 Available Now - Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

                                Originally posted by muddrow23
                                im sorry but the fast break logic for the player on the user team is horrible. why everytime I get a fastbreak straight to the basket my dummy players always run out to the arc when no one is in the front of him freaking pathetic!!!! get your head in the game 2k
                                The worst is when it's 2-3 on 1 and as soon as you start to sprint your stupid teammates decide to run right in front of you, because of the stupid live-ball and the crappy sprint animation where you push the ball out in front of you 2-3 feet for some reason the ball gets knocked loose resulting in a dead fastbreak or a TO. Also for some reason the users ai teammates never seem to sprint with you, only a half-assed jog.
                                Last edited by nova91; 01-31-2012, 12:45 PM.
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