Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

[bedwardsroy19]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

keeping the ratings theme going, did anyone adjust Tyson Chandler at all?

Which set are you using? I have him at a 76 or 77 I believe, don't remember off the top of my head. The individual attributes are more important than that though

[BasedTaylor]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

Which set are you using? I have him at a 76 or 77 I believe, don't remember off the top of my head. The individual attributes are more important than that though

His attributes seem pretty spot on to me.

[h2oPr00f]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

The rosters i was using had him at about a 70, i adjusted him to a 77. tho he still wanders out of the paint far too much for my liking lol

[bedwardsroy19]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

The rosters i was using had him at about a 70, i adjusted him to a 77. tho he still wanders out of the paint far too much for my liking lol

I could possibly upload a video of his attributes/abilities/tendencies on my roster. I'll let you know if I am able to

[qpc123]

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Ok, time for something other than ratings.

How does this trade strike everyone?

Portland receives:
Steve Nash
Grant Hill

Phoenix receives:
Gerald Wallace
Raymond Felton

Reasoning: Just hit Feb. 1st in my association, Phoenix is basically out of the playoff race(not really as the #7 in the west and #14 team are separated by 3 games, but they are the worst of all those teams). Portland is the 4 seed tied with Golden State(5 seed) but they are 10.5 games back in the division. The contracts are all 1 year so no-one gets saddled with a bad deal(Wallace may have a player option but, it not a terrible deal anyway). Nash gets to go "home" to the Pacific Northwest, gets to play for a contender, and his good buddy Grant Hill comes along for the ride. The Suns get two decent players back and will have time to see if they fit in and then can either stay or go. Same goes for Portland, if it doesn't work for Nash he can choose a different location in the offseason.

Should Phoenix get a draft pick also? Since they a basically trading away the franchise player.

Also, what if add Oden going to Phoenix, where they are known to have a training staff capable of pulling off miracles like he needs, and Childress goes to Portland, free Phoenix from his terrible deal and the log jam at SF. Seems like a fair price for Portland to pay since they are getting Nash.

[bedwardsroy19]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

Ok, time for something other than ratings.

How does this trade strike everyone?

Portland receives:
Steve Nash
Grant Hill

Phoenix receives:
Gerald Wallace
Raymond Felton

Reasoning: Just hit Feb. 1st in my association, Phoenix is basically out of the playoff race(not really as the #7 in the west and #14 team are separated by 3 games, but they are the worst of all those teams). Portland is the 4 seed tied with Golden State(5 seed) but they are 10.5 games back in the division. The contracts are all 1 year so no-one gets saddled with a bad deal(Wallace may have a player option but, it not a terrible deal anyway). Nash gets to go "home" to the Pacific Northwest, gets to play for a contender, and his good buddy Grant Hill comes along for the ride. The Suns get two decent players back and will have time to see if they fit in and then can either stay or go. Same goes for Portland, if it doesn't work for Nash he can choose a different location in the offseason.

Should Phoenix get a draft pick also? Since they a basically trading away the franchise player.

Also, what if add Oden going to Phoenix, where they are known to have a training staff capable of pulling off miracles like he needs, and Childress goes to Portland, free Phoenix from his terrible deal and the log jam at SF. Seems like a fair price for Portland to pay since they are getting Nash.

To be honest, I think this trade may even give too much to Phoenix for two players that are in all likelyhood 1/2 year and 1.5 year rentals. I am not sure though to be honest. I think if they all had the same amount of years left then it would be more even, but Nash and Hill are probably going to be retiring soon.

Giving Oden for Childress might make it even worse for Portland though, even if Childress never plays just because at the end of the season Oden is a FA anyways.

Hmm... Maybe others will like it though? Lets hear what they think

[qpc123]

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To be honest, I think this trade may even give too much to Phoenix for two players that are in all likelyhood 1/2 year and 1.5 year rentals. I am not sure though to be honest. I think if they all had the same amount of years left then it would be more even, but Nash and Hill are probably going to be retiring soon.

Giving Oden for Childress might make it even worse for Portland though, even if Childress never plays just because at the end of the season Oden is a FA anyways.

Hmm... Maybe others will like it though? Lets hear what they think

I see what you're saying. Part of my thought process on the Blazers side was that move gives them a shot to make the finals or at least a deep playoff run, as they stand now I don't see them making it past the second round. Would they rather be a middle of the pack team for a while or have a shot to make a deep run in the next year or two? It's a tough call. I'll look at it again with the things you mentioned in mind and see what I can come with.

Another factor is that the Lakers have lost Bynum for the season so that opens up the West a bit more once the playoffs roll around. L.A. will most likely still be a higher seed than Portland but I don't see the Lakers making any kind of noise with Bynum out of the picture.

[BasedTaylor]

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To be honest, I think this trade may even give too much to Phoenix for two players that are in all likelyhood 1/2 year and 1.5 year rentals. I am not sure though to be honest. I think if they all had the same amount of years left then it would be more even, but Nash and Hill are probably going to be retiring soon.

Giving Oden for Childress might make it even worse for Portland though, even if Childress never plays just because at the end of the season Oden is a FA anyways.

Hmm... Maybe others will like it though? Lets hear what they think

Agreed. I'd keep it as is. Felton and Wallace for Nash and Hill straight up. I just started FA after my first year and actually had Wallace sign with PHX lol.

[BasedTaylor]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

I've heard it mentioned a couple times but I'm curious. After your first season (and every season) do players touches ratings (tendency) go up and do a lot of big men's 3 point tendency go up as well?

[qpc123]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

I've heard it mentioned a couple times but I'm curious. After your first season (and every season) do players touches ratings (tendency) go up and do a lot of big men's 3 point tendency go up as well?

I believe they do, big men's 3 point tendency anyway. To what extent, I don't know. From what I remember reading the the guy complaining/pointing it out was 5-6 years into simming an association. This leads me to believe that it may not be too noticeable a difference between years 1 and 2. But once it a accumulates over a time it becomes an issue.

[BasedTaylor]

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I believe they do, big men's 3 point tendency anyway. To what extent, I don't know. From what I remember reading the the guy complaining/pointing it out was 5-6 years into simming an association. This leads me to believe that it may not be too noticeable a difference between years 1 and 2. But once it a accumulates over a time it becomes an issue.

Ugh, great. I have OCD bout the ratings after every year cause the progression kills me. Usually I just edit all the ratings but now it seems I have to redo tendencies... which is gonna be a.... you know what because I'm not exactly 100% sure on the details on how Bed did tendencies to make it play out realistic (mostly the touches tendency) think I'm gonna exit out of the Association and check bed's default roster I'm using to get a feel and pretty much go back and forth to get all the guys down right.... should be exhilarating lol

[bedwardsroy19]

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This may help you...

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...Qp2a7BBQ4/edit

[qpc123]

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Ugh, great. I have OCD bout the ratings after every year cause the progression kills me. Usually I just edit all the ratings but now it seems I have to redo tendencies... which is gonna be a.... you know what because I'm not exactly 100% sure on the details on how Bed did tendencies to make it play out realistic (mostly the touches tendency) think I'm gonna exit out of the Association and check bed's default roster I'm using to get a feel and pretty much go back and forth to get all the guys down right.... should be exhilarating lol

At one point I had proposed a community project to make a spreadsheet of at least all the big's 3 point tendencies, but it really have an traction because most people weren't far along enough to care(Myself included) or weren't really aware of the issue.

[qpc123]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

This may help you...

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...Qp2a7BBQ4/edit

sweet, that will be very helpful for me down the road, thanks.

I also wanted to throw this link in here. It a Dwight Howard trade and a wild one at that, I wanted to test to see if it would work be Ryan Anderson is hurt so that killed it for me. I'm not sure how it feel about it, but sure would make things fun for Bulls fans. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...-howard/page/2

[BasedTaylor]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

This may help you...

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...Qp2a7BBQ4/edit

Well, hello hello. That's what I'm talkin bout. Thank you very much sir, this will help a TON!!!