Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

[zay916]

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I'm a Kings fan and I really want to rebuild around Evans, Hickson, Thompson, Thornton, and Kidd-Gilchrist for the future. Just didn't really see Cousins in our future. I chose to keep Thompson instead because he doesn't need to get too many touches, and with the right minutes, he could be a 15 and 10 guy. Plus, I wanted to make PT space for Michael Kidd-Gilchrist.

[Dpauley23]

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I'm a Kings fan and I really want to rebuild around Evans, Hickson, Thompson, Thornton, and Kidd-Gilchrist for the future. Just didn't really see Cousins in our future. I chose to keep Thompson instead because he doesn't need to get too many touches, and with the right minutes, he could be a 15 and 10 guy. Plus, I wanted to make PT space for Michael Kidd-Gilchrist.

It's fine if you wanted to get rid of Cousins, but you should of gotten way more than Carter and 1st. You should have at least forced them to take Garcia

[qpc123]

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I'll apolgize upfront for the long post.

I'm gonna throw a bunch of trades out here, obviously they won't all get done because several include the same players. I'm keep of list of 'approved' trades so when I get to deadline I know which deals I'm gonna make and don't have to sit and come up with them then. No Dwight deals in this group, I'll make a separate post at another time, since I'm waiting till the last minute to move him(if I move him at all).

I went through and established who the 'buyers' and 'sellers' would be and then tried to make deals that filled needs for the buyers while sending expiring contracts or young talent to the 'sellers'. However, there are a couple 'buyer' to 'buyer' deals, but at least one of the teams is boarderline 'buyers' depending on how things shake out heading into the deadline. If a player had an option I made sure it was a team option so is a seller gets them they can decline if they wish(ex. Martell Webster)

I didn't really give much consideration to draft picks in the trades so if you feel one would make a trade better let me know.

Feel free to comment on all or just one. I'll number them so you don't have to quote all this B.S. just refer to the number.

#1
Rockets get:
D. Granger
Amundson

Pacers get:
K. Martin
P. Patterson

#2
Hornets get:
Granger
G. Hill

Pacers get:
E. Gordon
C. Landry

#3
Pistons get:
W. Johnson
M. Webster
M. Beasley

T'Wolves get:
B. Gordon
T. Prince

#4
Pistons get:
K. Brown

Warriors get:
T. Prince

#5
Bucks get:
A. Iguodala

Sixers get:
B. Udrih
C. Delfino
T. Harris

#6
Nets get:
T. Thomas

Bobcats get:
K. Humphries

#7
T'Wolves get:
C. Maggette
D. Brown

Bobcats get:
M. Beasley
M. Webster

If you have questions about why a team would do this you can ask me, but it may aslo be helpful to check my dynasty page:http://www.operationsports.com/forum...post2043355491

For example unlike real life the Sixers are pretty bad in my assoc. so they might part with Iggy to make way for Turner and Young and clear some cap space.

[Adomluka]

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#4
Pistons get:
K. Brown

Warriors get:
T. Prince

I'll quote Stephen A Smith on this one:
"Kwame Brown is a bona fide scrub, he can't play, he can't play"
Seeing that the Pistons have Greg Monroe, Ben Wallace, and Maxiell who can play center better than Kwame, as well as the fact that Tayshaun Prince is the teams captain, I don't see any way that the Pistons justify trading for Kwame Brown.

[zay916]

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I really like trades #1 and #2, I'm not really feelin the Pistons trades though.

[qpc123]

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I'll quote Stephen A Smith on this one:
"Kwame Brown is a bona fide scrub, he can't play, he can't play"
Seeing that the Pistons have Greg Monroe, Ben Wallace, and Maxiell who can play center better than Kwame, as well as the fact that Tayshaun Prince is the teams captain, I don't see any way that the Pistons justify trading for Kwame Brown.

In that scenario Kwame isn't going there to play, he going there to clear Tayshaun off the cap. He has a one year, $7 mil. deal. Regardless, of Tayshaun's status his contract isn't great, neither is Villanueva's but I don't see anyone taking him on, if Detroit wants to move forward there gonna have to get rid of one of them and Tayshaun is the much more desirable of the two. I've read several trade rumor stories on several sites that mention Prince to Minnesota for Beasley so I don't see him as untradable by any means.

[qpc123]

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I really like trades #1 and #2, I'm not really feelin the Pistons trades though.

Of those two, I tend to lean towards #2 as I think Gordon resigns in Indiana and it move George to the SF slot that is a more natural fit for him. If I end up doing that I may then look to move Ariza as the Hornets could probably get good value for him since he is a top notch defender with championship experience. Thanks for the input.

[zay916]

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With the Cousins deal i threw in the mavs 13 1 rd, 2 rd, their 14 1 rd, and the another 13 1 rd from DET.

[Dpauley23]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

I'll apolgize upfront for the long post.

I'm gonna throw a bunch of trades out here, obviously they won't all get done because several include the same players. I'm keep of list of 'approved' trades so when I get to deadline I know which deals I'm gonna make and don't have to sit and come up with them then. No Dwight deals in this group, I'll make a separate post at another time, since I'm waiting till the last minute to move him(if I move him at all).

I went through and established who the 'buyers' and 'sellers' would be and then tried to make deals that filled needs for the buyers while sending expiring contracts or young talent to the 'sellers'. However, there are a couple 'buyer' to 'buyer' deals, but at least one of the teams is boarderline 'buyers' depending on how things shake out heading into the deadline. If a player had an option I made sure it was a team option so is a seller gets them they can decline if they wish(ex. Martell Webster)

I didn't really give much consideration to draft picks in the trades so if you feel one would make a trade better let me know.

Feel free to comment on all or just one. I'll number them so you don't have to quote all this B.S. just refer to the number.

#1
Rockets get:
D. Granger
Amundson

Pacers get:
K. Martin
P. Patterson

#2
Hornets get:
Granger
G. Hill

Pacers get:
E. Gordon
C. Landry

#3
Pistons get:
W. Johnson
M. Webster
M. Beasley

T'Wolves get:
B. Gordon
T. Prince

#4
Pistons get:
K. Brown

Warriors get:
T. Prince

#5
Bucks get:
A. Iguodala

Sixers get:
B. Udrih
C. Delfino
T. Harris

#6
Nets get:
T. Thomas

Bobcats get:
K. Humphries

#7
T'Wolves get:
C. Maggette
D. Brown

Bobcats get:
M. Beasley
M. Webster

If you have questions about why a team would do this you can ask me, but it may aslo be helpful to check my dynasty page:http://www.operationsports.com/forum...post2043355491

For example unlike real life the Sixers are pretty bad in my assoc. so they might part with Iggy to make way for Turner and Young and clear some cap space.

1. Looks good to me. Granger and Martin are similar players, but it each play suits the each team better. Having Granger for Rockets allows them to play Lee while Martin for Pacers allows them to play George at his natural position.

2. I like option 1 better. Don't think the Hornets trade Gordon either unless they blow away.

3. I'm not sure about this one. I need to hear what your thinking about direction of T'wolves. Do you plan on playing Williams at the 3? Or playing Love at the 5 and Williams at 4

4. I like this one. Allows for Dorrell Wright to be the sixth man for Warriors were he can play the 3 and 4 position off the bench. I think the Pistons need a 1st rounder though. Warriors don't have 2012, so maybe 2013 top 16 protected. I think you should also include Ben Wallace.

5. I'm not really sure I love this one. The 76ers need to be getting better pieces back younger talent back if there going to trady Iggy. What if you did Bogut for Iggy, and Hawes?

6. I would make some changes here. This might threaten the Nets chances to sign Howard. So, I would do Tyrus Thomas and Najera for Anthony Morrow and Kris Humphries. Maybe even throw in 2nd rounder.

7. Don't really love this one for the T'wolves either. I think the Timberwolves need a good defender at the 3 spot rather than getting another scorer.

[Dpauley23]

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With the Cousins deal i threw in the mavs 13 1 rd, 2 rd, their 14 1 rd, and the another 13 1 rd from DET.

Well that's not even possible as you can't trade consecutive 1st rounders

[volstopfan14]

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#1
Rockets get:
D. Granger
Amundson

Pacers get:
K. Martin
P. Patterson

#2
Hornets get:
Granger
G. Hill

Pacers get:
E. Gordon
C. Landry

#3
Pistons get:
W. Johnson
M. Webster
M. Beasley

T'Wolves get:
B. Gordon
T. Prince

#4
Pistons get:
K. Brown

Warriors get:
T. Prince

#5
Bucks get:
A. Iguodala

Sixers get:
B. Udrih
C. Delfino
T. Harris

#6
Nets get:
T. Thomas

Bobcats get:
K. Humphries

#7
T'Wolves get:
C. Maggette
D. Brown

Bobcats get:
M. Beasley
M. Webster

I like 1 and 2. I think Indiana would like Gordon over Martin but I also think that the Hornets won't just give up Gordon. So I would do trade 1. I don't really like 3. I think there are better SG options for the T'Wolves than Ben Gordon. 4 is interesting. Pistons get some cap relief and Warriors get a solid defender. I don't really like 5 at all. The 76ers aren't getting much at all for Iguodala. A bad contract in Udrih, an below average SF in Delfino, and a prospect in Harris. 6 is interesting. I don't really like 7. I think that Minnesota should be looking for a better defender than Maggette. Like 6 though, it helps Charlotte because they clear a bad contract.

[qpc123]

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1. Looks good to me. Granger and Martin are similar players, but it each play suits the each team better. Having Granger for Rockets allows them to play Lee while Martin for Pacers allows them to play George at his natural position.You pretty much thought this out the exact same way I did

2. I like option 1 better. Don't think the Hornets trade Gordon either unless they blow away. For this trade, I make into a three team that moves Ariza and nets the Hornets more in the way of young talent/draft picks

3. I'm not sure about this one. I need to hear what your thinking about direction of T'wolves. Do you plan on playing Williams at the 3? Or playing Love at the 5 and Williams at 4in the future I would envision Williams starting at the 3 with Prince as 6th man, then they could go to pretty nice small ball line-up with Love at the 5, Williams at the 4, Prince at the 3. I would most likely make a deal to move Ridnour if this goes down, as they would have two under 6'3" players as the #1 and #2 option at SG

4. I like this one. Allows for Dorrell Wright to be the sixth man for Warriors were he can play the 3 and 4 position off the bench. I think the Pistons need a 1st rounder though. Warriors don't have 2012, so maybe 2013 top 16 protected. I think you should also include Ben Wallace. Warriors are one of the for sure 'buyers' as they are pretty set to be between a 4-6 seed in the playoffs, barring injuries to Monta or Curry. I'll look into expanding it a bit

5. I'm not really sure I love this one. The 76ers need to be getting better pieces back younger talent back if there going to trady Iggy. What if you did Bogut for Iggy, and Hawes?I think you saw the crazy three teamer for Dwight I had a few days ago, that would land Howard in Chicago. This is a kinda fall back deal if that one gets shot down, I'm still working out the specifics so nobody gets the shaft on it. This depends how Milwaukee plays for the next week and a half prior to the deadline

6. I would make some changes here. This might threaten the Nets chances to sign Howard. So, I would do Tyrus Thomas and Najera for Anthony Morrow and Kris Humphries. Maybe even throw in 2nd rounder.Another fall back trade for if they don't get Dwight really, if he his gonna be a FA this won't happen. If gets traded somewhere else the Nets are still fighting to make the playoffs and this would be a last ditch move to try to make it in and hope D-Will decides to stay, even if he walks Thomas has slightly better all-around game than Humphries IMO. Morrow has already been traded to Memphis for O.J. Mayo

7. Don't really love this one for the T'wolves either. I think the Timberwolves need a good defender at the 3 spot rather than getting another scorer. you're right. looking at this one again I don't really like it either, it was more of move help MJ tank for the #1 pick then it was to improve Minnesota

I'm gonna respond in the quote and bold my answers/comments, thanks for the input.

[qpc123]

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I like 1 and 2. I think Indiana would like Gordon over Martin but I also think that the Hornets won't just give up Gordon. So I would do trade 1. I don't really like 3. I think there are better SG options for the T'Wolves than Ben Gordon. 4 is interesting. Pistons get some cap relief and Warriors get a solid defender. I don't really like 5 at all. The 76ers aren't getting much at all for Iguodala. A bad contract in Udrih, an below average SF in Delfino, and a prospect in Harris. 6 is interesting. I don't really like 7. I think that Minnesota should be looking for a better defender than Maggette. Like 6 though, it helps Charlotte because they clear a bad contract.

Udrih's deal is one year plus a team option so Philly could decline it. This would be purely a to clear cap space for Philly as Delfino is one year as well but they would be stuck with Harris for a year or two.

[Dpauley23]

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What if you traded Iggy to Chicago? You could do Korver, Brewer, Gibson, John Lucas 2012 1st and Charlotte pick for Iggy, Jodie Meeks and Lavoy Allen.

As for Minnesota, I like what your thinking. I have them playing Williams at the 3 too with him getting some time at the 4 behind Love and Randolph. Also, I play Pekovic for them at the 5 while also giving Love some time there. I would look at getting a 2-guard instead for Minnesota. They need an elite perimeter defender on the wing there

My Warrior suggestion would be to do Prince and Ben Wallace for Kwame Brown, Dominic McGuire and 2013 1st rounder

[Dpauley23]

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Udrih's deal is one year plus a team option so Philly could decline it. This would be purely a to clear cap space for Philly as Delfino is one year as well but they would be stuck with Harris for a year or two.

Udrih actually has a player option. My B. Edwards uploaded his roster 2K share messed it up so some of the contract's aren't right. I went and changed them, but not sure if others did. You might want to change them to make it more realistic