2k should be ashamed of 2k12

[YoungBuck3]

Re: 2k should be ashamed of 2k12

During this run where you get playing like garbage, how many times did you call a time out? how often did you go into the defensive match ups and adjust according to what was happening? did you change your defensive schemes? did you change the defensive game plan? bringing your best defensive players on to try to protect the lead?

I know full well I'm not blowing 20 point leads with any regularity.

[sword1986]

Re: 2k should be ashamed of 2k12

man i beat the suns by 1 with nets on my slashing sg we had a double digit lead going into fourth and on cue they got back in it. raining threes and unstoppable in the paint.

next game against the jazz we got blew out couldnt get a run going to cut into the lead same ole stuff blasting threes and unstoppable in the paint

Every game is random I think. Marco Bellinelli was 4-15 from 3PT land in my game and missed a lot of wide open threes. Even one to tie the game because Anthony Morrow happened to miss 1 freethrow lol

[keshunleon]

Re: 2k should be ashamed of 2k12

Nah, this isn't pointless, happens way too frequently all this comeback stuff. It happens to me, and seems to be happening to most other people playing.

Doubt he was getting complacent, doesn't really matter what you do in the fourth quarter sometimes vs the CPU, could be running a perfect offense and the CPU would still do something to cut the lead.

It just seems in the fourth quarter, shots that you made in the first quarter just don't seem to fall anymore, and the shots the CPU was missing earlier just start to always go in, it's as simple as that. They step up their D, and your guys start playing terrible D. Something doesn't seem right about that if you ask me.

Not every basketball team just collapses late in the game and let's you come back, comebacks are a huge part of basketball, but it's nothing like how 2K portrays it in real life.

They do everything right late in the game, it's very easy to see that.

This game is really frustrating.

I agree!!

What frustrates me is 90% of my shots are good. 50% of my shots are uncontested but I miss a lot of them. The CPU can hit contested shots with bad shooters.

This is when players like PF Craig Smith hits 3 or 4 17-19 footers in the 4th contested. Happens all the time but Nick Young goes 0 for 7 in the 4th uncontested. I can understand going 0 for 10 but when a nonshooting player shoots 100% in the 4th I feel cheated.

[ballsohard]

Re: 2k should be ashamed of 2k12

If you're finding that fourth quarter collapses are happening to you entirely too often, then you may need to tweak sliders or evaluate the way you play in the 4th. It's not at all unrealistic to think that a team down by a lot in the fourth will try to kick it up a notch to close the gap. It's your job to manage the clock, protect the ball, take smart shots and contest theirs. I hate to be "that guy" but if this is a recurring issue the problem just might rest between couch and console.

During this run where you get playing like garbage, how many times did you call a time out? how often did you go into the defensive match ups and adjust according to what was happening? did you change your defensive schemes? did you change the defensive game plan? bringing your best defensive players on to try to protect the lead?

I know full well I'm not blowing 20 point leads with any regularity.

I agree with both of these statements. When I first got the game I was blowing 4th quarter leads too often for my liking. But when after this would happen, I would question my 4th quarter play/tactics instead of the AI. It made me realize that while there were times I missed open shots I thought I should have hit, and the CPU hit some contested shots, I wasn't playing smart basketball either. I'd still be running off of misses/turnovers, playing guys who were better offensively than defensively, waiting a little too long to call timeouts, keeping my defensive settings the same as they were the first three quarters, and taking (open) shots with too much time left on the shot clock.

I know if I saw my team playing this way IRL, I'd be upset. You have to go into the 3rd and 4th with the mindset that the CPU is going to come out aggressively and make a run. You have to be prepared for this and play high IQ b-ball. Just because your defensive settings have worked to perfection in the first 3 quarters, doesn't mean the CPU can get its act together and make adjustments that will burn these settings in the 4th. You need to pay attention to what they are doing to you and adjust accordingly. Also if you have a wide-open 3 with 18 seconds left on the shot clock, its not a smart move to shoot it. Just like IRL, situational basketball plays a big part in determining what is and isn't a good shot.

[Raider131]

Re: 2k should be ashamed of 2k12

Blowing leads is part of the game, it happens all the time in the NBA on Friday The Heat were up 29 or so and the 76ers almost and game back over the course of 2 quarters thanks to the heat playing lazy and letting them back into the game

Now in 2k I was up by 18 in the 4th quarter I got sloppy and let them back but down the stretch I had, A missed wide open dunk, 2 lobs (one was wide open on a fast break) missed, A missed fast break dunk off a steal with no one around me. Another game, I'm up by 2 and off a missed shot Jason Terry outjumps JaValee Mcgee, Blatche and Wall for a rebound kicks it out to Shawn Marion who had Rashard Lewis right in his face and jays it. It's things like this that make 2k12 downright frustrating to play. It just feels like down the stretch your team is just going to fall apart no matter what you do and you just have to sit back and accept it

[DemiGodzillla]

Re: 2k should be ashamed of 2k12

You shouldn't need to bear down and play perfect offense and defense EVERY SINGLE TIME you have a 20 point lead in the 4th quarter to defend it. Do comebacks happen? Yes. Do they happen every time a team is leading? No. Look at the last 3 Knicks game, They were up huge in the first two and coasted to large wins, Portland barely (if ever) got within 10 in the second half, Indi only closed the gap in the first game against the bench and still only got it down to 15 at the end, and once they closed it to about 6 in the 3rd game the Knicks pulled back ahead by 12 and never looked back.

The AI shouldn't make every open shot and shoot a higher percentage on contested shots for no reason other than "it's the 4th quarter, it's time to make a run.", you can play perfect D and O and still get your lead chipped away, that's also not right. How many games do you take a 20 point lead into the 4th quarter and win by 30? At a point in real life teams give up because the game is out of reach, that doesn't happen in the game because the game controls what happens. If the game wants to go on a run, it's happening, call all the time outs you want, play the best defense possible, adjust your coaching sliders and switch up your defensive schemes, you might make it a 12-4 run instead of an 18-2 run, but it's still going to happen. There are times the game blatantly gives itself an advantage over you, it boosts the AI players or it bogs yours down, the answer to this isn't "call a timeout" it's STOP CHEATING.

[funkworthy]

Re: 2k should be ashamed of 2k12

I agree this is a problem and really annoying. The game does feel too scripted, and too much like you are just in the passenger's seat.

It really would be fine if the cpu would just script more believable ways to come back. I have no issue with having to play hard and smart b ball to win or fight off a comeback, but in 2k it's too obvious that is what is going to happen NO MATTER WHAT! So what happens is mediocre players drain contested 17 foot jumpers they would never take while the winning team misses layups, dunks, etc.

If Rose or Kobe or even Evan Turner just took over playing their game, then fun! But when I double Rose and rotate to Noah in time but he hits the contested 17 footer, that's just the AI scripting this comeback at all costs.

As a game, it's fine, it's predictable, I can find a way to win. It's just kind of lame the way the cpu pulls it off.

[jchap38]

Re: 2k should be ashamed of 2k12

I agree this is a problem and really annoying. The game does feel too scripted, and too much like you are just in the passenger's seat.

It really would be fine if the cpu would just script more believable ways to come back. I have no issue with having to play hard and smart b ball to win or fight off a comeback, but in 2k it's too obvious that is what is going to happen NO MATTER WHAT! So what happens is mediocre players drain contested 17 foot jumpers they would never take while the winning team misses layups, dunks, etc.

If Rose or Kobe or even Evan Turner just took over playing their game, then fun! But when I double Rose and rotate to Noah in time but he hits the contested 17 footer, that's just the AI scripting this comeback at all costs.

As a game, it's fine, it's predictable, I can find a way to win. It's just kind of lame the way the cpu pulls it off.

Yea could not agree with you anymore. I love 2k but c-mon,no way noah should hit 17 foot jumpers consistently. Or what about about the redbounds magically leaving your hand and going to other team. I have even had my players not be able to move,or turbo just suddenly stops working. No way you can stop certain things, like lebron driving to the whole everytime,or kobe shooting everytime. Its a video game,that i understand but for 60 dollars can we at least be able to move our player how we want. Is it just me or does the court feel really small???

[redapple]

Re: 2k should be ashamed of 2k12

the fanboys on this site try to maKE OUT anyone who bitches about this game is just a bad player lol just to cover up the fact the game is broken .

i've seen this with my own eyes , i was playing on my player getting 60 points a with star and good key players around me and bad and less than par teams were making god like come backs... i rage quit ted after half a season because it is unplayable.

and i'm no noob been playing since 2k9 on superstar.

you a fool and a fan boy to think other wise.

[I Djm]

Re: 2k should be ashamed of 2k12

the fanboys on this site try to maKE OUT anyone who bitches about this game is just a bad player lol just to cover up the fact the game is broken .

i've seen this with my own eyes , i was playing on my player getting 60 points a with star and good key players around me and bad and less than par teams were making god like come backs... i rage quit ted after half a season because it is unplayable.

and i'm no noob been playing since 2k9 on superstar.

you a fool and a fan boy to think other wise.

its better to play on scrubby teams to avoid less headaches lol. i just refuse to play with the bulls because i know drose will not play like himself

[Vni]

Re: 2k should be ashamed of 2k12

You shouldn't need to bear down and play perfect offense and defense EVERY SINGLE TIME you have a 20 point lead in the 4th quarter to defend it.

I guess you haven't watched a Lakers game in a while.

[redapple]

Re: 2k should be ashamed of 2k12

I guess you haven't watched a Lakers game in a while.

Yeah the Lakers . Not with raptors or wizard do it!!!!!which happens a lot.

[coolcras7]

Re: 2k should be ashamed of 2k12

The CPU makes adjustments throughout the game if you don't you have a better chance of losing big leads.

[funkworthy]

Re: 2k should be ashamed of 2k12

The CPU makes adjustments throughout the game if you don't you have a better chance of losing big leads.

Right, and losing those big leads by missing layups, throwing ridiculously slow and floating passes that get intercepted, watching rebounds fly through your hands, watching successive offensive rebounds, and watching as the AI hits everything.

It would be ok if you lost the big lead by missing open jumpers, or getting muscled off the block, or burned on D. The way the cpu burns you on D is to pull up with whomever has the ball whenever the shot clock is running out with whomever in their face, and hit the shot.

The momentum in this game takes over at all costs. It seems two steps removed like: if I protect the paint on D, when I hit the shot stick on offense I'll complete dynamic layups. But if I don't make those adjustments (whatever the magical momentum adjustments are) then what was once a dunk is now a double-clutch. It's like constant mind games, and like rolling the dice- what kind of pass is my player going to throw? a zippy one or a terrible one? What kind of shot will he take? Will he be magnetic or lubricated on defense? For the same exact commands, you get wildly different results based on momentum. Which in my opinion is pretty graceless.

I will say I've played dozens of hours of this game, and it is a good game, but it is the most frustrating game I have ever played by a wide margin. It's like driving an old car- you've got to figure out the quirky things it does and try to work with it. Hit the dash to make the left headlight come on, jiggle the steering wheel to get sound out of the back left speaker, say four hail marys to get it to start. Ultimately I'll remember it fondly, but honestly I'm looking forward to getting a new one.

[sword1986]

Re: 2k should be ashamed of 2k12

I play a lot, and finally on the All Star/Simulation level with one change to the sliders: I have to play with the User Help Defense slider at 100, because at 50... forget about it, there is no way you can stop the CPU offense. If you can, props to you, but I cannot play without having Help Defense slider at 100. Game Speed at 35 also, helps with the pump fakes and dream shakes in the paint so I can make stops in the paint.

Out of 10, the game is 9/10 - GREAT.

Only thing to make it a 10 would be if the CPU didn't cheat. Raymond Felton turns into Kobe Bryant in the 4th quarter nailing all these shots, ridiculous.