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  • jd@os
    Roster Editor
    • Jul 2007
    • 3716

    #31
    Re: 2k should be ashamed of 2k12

    Just because this stuff hasn't happened to you doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

    I've been reading threads like this for a while now and even though the stuff hadn't happened to me, I still believed it; all of these people wouldn't waste their time by making all of this up. Well in my last game I wasn't up by a ton and I was the '96 Bulls playing the Clippers and this is how I felt:

    I was 19-0, and the Clippers were overmatched with a losing record. Yes, I won the game, but I was making turnover after turnover just to seemingly keep the Clippers in the game. It really did feel as if I had no control over what was going on. I did absolutely nothing wrong on my part--I called a timeout to stop the momentum and I ran plays. The CPU didn't change anything up on me--it was just that every single time I passed the ball for about 4 straight possessions, the ball went through the hands of one of my players. There is no way you can defend that so don't even try. It wasn't crunch time, clutch factor was off, my players have good "hands"; it's just that the CPU knew to keep it close, I had to turn the ball over.

    I ended up winning by double digits so I'm not whining; I'm just saying that it was so obvious what the CPU was doing. Turnover, turnover, turnover, turnover. And this is what takes the cake: I had ten turnovers in the first half, and only ONE in the second half--and I didn't do ANYTHING differently from the first half to the second half. The only turnover I had in the second half was a 3 second violation. I didn't do anything differently; the CPU certainly did.

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    • vtcrb
      Hall Of Fame
      • Nov 2006
      • 10294

      #32
      Re: 2k should be ashamed of 2k12

      Not sure what Rosters you guys are playing with BUT they can make a difference in what you guys are experiencing. I see alot of guys having the CPU make shots that seem impossible. IF you are using 2k Rosters, then No matter what you cut OFF in Sliders or Gameplay options it STILL reverts back to how the players are Rated in Attributes and Abilities. If 2k gave the player a High Clutch Attribute Rating then it will make them hit more shots. If they gave them a High Close or Mid-range Attribute Rating then some of the Big Men are going to hit those Shots. Tendencies are also REALLY out of whack. MOST Big men have their Tendencies Really High in ALOT of areas, this causes them to shoot the Mid-Range jumpers and other things people are experiencing. There are a TON of factors that can cause what you guys are experiencing. THIS year has taken ALOT more time to make the game play right than EVER before. WHOEVER was in charge of Manufacturing and Testing of the Attributes, Abilities, Tendencies and Hot Spots REALLY DROPPED THE BALL.
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      • Fly3
        Banned
        • Sep 2011
        • 1180

        #33
        Re: 2k should be ashamed of 2k12

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        • thuglife74
          Banned
          • Nov 2011
          • 296

          #34
          Re: 2k should be ashamed of 2k12

          there have been games when i played @ the cpu's home stadium and the ai just he them SET on winning. i mean, sometimes they throw so many bs shots/plays against me, i bump it from all star to rookie just to catch up. if they bs, f***, i'll bs them too.

          but hey you guessed it - even on rookie they play like a 5 man michael jordan.

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          • JerzeyReign
            MVP
            • Jul 2009
            • 4847

            #35
            Re: 2k should be ashamed of 2k12

            I think the Griz are blaming 2k right now too
            #WashedGamer

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            • Royal Black
              Rookie
              • Apr 2012
              • 89

              #36
              Re: 2k should be ashamed of 2k12

              I get that people like 2k12 and want to defend it but to act as if the AI isn't a bit screwy is being in denial. Sliders, difficulty level and playing smarter have nothing to do with it. Using the excuse that comebacks happen in real life all the time is a cop out because they do not happen in the same way in the game.

              I know just about every sports game has detractors who complain about how the CPU cheats or games being "scripted" and it can be annoying but there is a legit problem in 2k12 and hopefully it gets better with the new game.

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              • Norris_Cole
                Pro
                • Jan 2012
                • 778

                #37
                Re: 2k should be ashamed of 2k12

                How can you make 0 FG in one quarter and blow a 20 point lead? that's only your fault OP.

                Just a heads up...



                This should be your best friend in those situations

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                • wudl83
                  Pro
                  • Jun 2011
                  • 627

                  #38
                  Re: 2k should be ashamed of 2k12

                  To be honest I do not own 2k12, but I own 2k11 and even there were many situations where the gameplay difficulty changed drastically while the course of a game, especially with a huge lead.

                  And I really mean gameplay difficulty. Missing open shots, unstoppable AI offense and big rallies out of nowhere are nothing new for me. In 2k11 also the frequency for this was quite high for me. It sometimes felt like you were playing rookie before and all of a sudden the AI changed into god mode.

                  And yes, I did tweak my gameplan, defensive setups, I called timeouts etc.

                  Everyone else who does not realize that in 2k games (you can even see such things in MLB 2k) are such things that are simply unreal should take a closer look at the game he is playing.
                  Last edited by wudl83; 04-30-2012, 08:12 AM.

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                  • inchez34
                    Rookie
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 110

                    #39
                    Re: 2k should be ashamed of 2k12

                    The Grizzles played amazing ball for 3 quarters and then blew a 20+ point lead while Nick Young became Ray Allen making 3 straight three pointers and the Grizzles only scored like 15 all quarter. It's called a run. For every example 2K players show, a close example can be seen in the NBA
                    Last edited by inchez34; 04-30-2012, 09:54 AM. Reason: Ooops Typo

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                    • I Djm
                      MVP
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 1297

                      #40
                      Re: 2k should be ashamed of 2k12

                      Originally posted by inchez34
                      The Grizzles played amazing ball for 3 quarters and then blew a 20+ point lead while Nick Young became Ray Allen making 3 straight three pointers and the Grizzles only scored like 15 all quarter. It's called a run. For every example 2K players show, a close example can be seen in the NBA
                      thats real life though, in video game terms when someone has a numerical value it should be rare that they play above it or below it if its the cpu
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                      • bichettehappens
                        MVP
                        • Jun 2010
                        • 2547

                        #41
                        Originally posted by I Djm
                        thats real life though, in video game terms when someone has a numerical value it should be rare that they play above it or below it if its the cpu
                        Not if you want games to replicate real life. What fun would it be to never lose a game with a 10 point lead using the Heat, or if it were impossible to win using the Bobcats? Granted that last part might be realistic lol

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                        • spankdatazz22
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                          • May 2003
                          • 6219

                          #42
                          Re: 2k should be ashamed of 2k12

                          Originally posted by I Djm
                          thats real life though, in video game terms when someone has a numerical value it should be rare that they play above it or below it if its the cpu
                          I agree somewhat, although people here always chirp about how they want a game to be more like real life and not always play out to statistical exactness. To me the issue seems to be more of a difficulty level issue, which has been a complaint for years. It's just this year the difficulty spikes more harshly on the levels above Pro than it did previously. I do think the game is programmed to at times throw variables at the player where they have to adjust. But the effect can be a overly dramatic depending on what level you're playing on. I think it's one of those things I hope they continue to tweak but I don't see how it comes anywhere close to reaching *2K should be ashamed of 2K12* levels as the OP insinuates.
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                          • Pared
                            Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 39337

                            #43
                            Re: 2k should be ashamed of 2k12

                            Our forum members should be ashamed of this thread.

                            There was absolutely no reason to bump this - even after the Grizzlies spectacular collapse.

                            Closed.
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