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  • VDusen04
    Hall Of Fame
    • Aug 2003
    • 13025

    #211
    Re: NBA 2K13 Features Sprite Slam Dunk Contest, 3 Point Contest, Rising Stars Challen

    Originally posted by thaone08
    Money that 2k earns in a year from sales of their video games, a lot of money do not go into their game servers.

    I think you're overestimating how much money this company has. While it's true they are a multimillion dollar company (presumably, maybe Take-two Interactive is underfunding their 2k label), that doesn't mean they have unlimited resources and they certainly don't get to pocket every dollar from the sale of their games. Since Take-two doesn't separate their financial statements into labels and individual product lines we only have their entire product line to go from but it can serve to demonstrate what a small percentage they get from sales.

    Take-two's net revenue for 2011 was $1.136b - wow that's a lot of money right? Let's see how quickly that dwindles down.

    First, let's reduce that amount by the Cost of Goods Sold (e.g. labor, material, overhead) which was $689m. We're now down to $447m in gross profit and we've only just begun to scratch the surface.

    Next, we have to trim that number down to account for marketing ($176m), administrative costs ($109m), research and development ($69m), and depreciation and amortization ($15m) for a total of $370m of reduced profit.

    With our remaining $77m Take-two has to pay interest on outstanding loans amounting to $13.5m. Hooray! Finally we made some money! But wait, we still have to pay $9.8m in income tax and $5.3m in liabilities from discontinued operations.

    Finally, we're at $48m in net income, or 4% of net revenue! Unfortunately, the division of net income isn't readily accessible but that $48m has to be divided between both labels - 2K and Rockstar Games. That $48m then gets distributed to shareholders to fund your or your parents' retirement plans and college funds but that's another topic for another day.

    The cost of bandwidth for dedicated game servers can be astronomical for a game like 2k12. By comparison, The9 (former host of China's WoW game servers) spent $73m on their game servers. Obviously NBA 2k12 would cost less but it's not as if they're spending $5k at Best Buy for a computer. Improving their servers would likely cost several million dollars.

    Let's say it's $5m in net operating costs to improve their servers. That's $5m 2k has to somehow justify to Take-two and its shareholders. Do you think it would be easy or difficult for them to make the case that 10% of the entire company's net profit should be spent on servers that will not or will marginally increase sales? How many shareholders would they potentially lose by reporting a 10% loss in net profit?

    At the very least this should give you an idea of what they're working with and why it's not as simple as going out and buying some new servers.
    As I am not familiar with the technological aspects of creating a game, I mindlessly replaced the phrase "online codebases" with "servers". Regardless, the point of the article I linked in a previous post (http://www.hoopsgaming.com/showthrea...t-Gone-Forever) remains: 2K began making drastic changes to how the online portion of their game operates and as it was a work in progress, the altered system was not prepared to handle something as complicated as Crew.

    Once more:
    The decision to change online codebases affected everything about the game's online offerings. As this would be a first run, Thomas directed the team to remove complex features that, although manageable in the old creaky architecture, couldn't be integrated with the new code in time for the game's shipping date—which, of course, is set by the NBA.

    That meant "My Crew" got the axe. This year.

    "We love My Crew," Thomas said. "But it's one of the more complicated features to put online. If we wanted to have a game this year, we needed to keep the feature set tight and small. When you get involved with Crews, there's a whole thing with data exchanging that gets involved."

    Though Thomas cannot promise anything, he also sincerely did not rule out My Crew's return in future editions, attributing its absence in NBA 2K12 solely to the new codebase.
    Regardless of my technological phrasing mistake, I feel as though the point was still quite clear to gather from all else that was previously mentioned and linked.

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    • 22cedric
      Pro
      • Jan 2012
      • 501

      #212
      Re: NBA 2K13 Features Sprite Slam Dunk Contest, 3 Point Contest, Rising Stars Challen

      @Ronnie2K said on his twitter Gotten online complaints, have dev looking into them.

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      • LD2k
        2K Sports Community Manager
        • Oct 2010
        • 1261

        #213
        Re: NBA 2K13 Features Sprite Slam Dunk Contest, 3 Point Contest, Rising Stars Challen

        Who's ready for another big #NBA2K13 tidbit? 1 hour (3:30 PT), spread news!
        Community Manager 2K Sports // Twitter: LD2k

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        • Vni
          Hall Of Fame
          • Sep 2011
          • 14833

          #214
          Re: NBA 2K13 Features Sprite Slam Dunk Contest, 3 Point Contest, Rising Stars Challen

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          • LD2k
            2K Sports Community Manager
            • Oct 2010
            • 1261

            #215
            Re: NBA 2K13 Features Sprite Slam Dunk Contest, 3 Point Contest, Rising Stars Challen

            Originally posted by Vni
            You got style, I'll give you that.
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            • neptuneniq
              Rookie
              • Sep 2009
              • 457

              #216
              Re: NBA 2K13 Features Sprite Slam Dunk Contest, 3 Point Contest, Rising Stars Challen

              we need All Star mode to be in My Player, Association, Association Online

              AND SPECTATOR MODE, so i dont have to look at the main menu while i wait for a friend to finish playing

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              • JBreezeNY
                Rookie
                • Sep 2010
                • 105

                #217
                Re: NBA 2K13 Features Sprite Slam Dunk Contest, 3 Point Contest, Rising Stars Challen



                Originally posted by neptuneniq
                we need All Star mode to be in My Player, Association, Association Online

                AND SPECTATOR MODE, so i dont have to look at the main menu while i wait for a friend to finish playing
                Very, very much agreed. If it's not in any of those modes then my previous post was made for nothing.

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                • Thelorn
                  Pro
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 874

                  #218
                  Re: NBA 2K13 Features Sprite Slam Dunk Contest, 3 Point Contest, Rising Stars Challen

                  In case it hasn't been mentioned, you can do this offer with gamestop now. So no longer online only. http://www.gamestop.com/xbox-360/games/nba-2k13/101476
                  If flopping was rewarded in real life as it is in the NBA, I’d swerve into guard rails each time someone changed lanes in front of me. - Alan Hahn

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                  • Tonester925
                    Rookie
                    • Apr 2012
                    • 5

                    #219
                    Re: NBA 2K13 Features Sprite Slam Dunk Contest, 3 Point Contest, Rising Stars Challen

                    Are you serious? How is this even an announcement? They should've had the dunk contest and 3 point contest in 2k12.

                    Only for pre-order too? You really ****ed up.

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                    • LD2k
                      2K Sports Community Manager
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 1261

                      #220
                      Re: NBA 2K13 Features Sprite Slam Dunk Contest, 3 Point Contest, Rising Stars Challen

                      1st ever <s>#</s>NBA2K13 gameplay premieres during <s>@</s>SpikeTV <s>#</s>GTE3 All Access primetime special, Monday 10 ET/7 PT <s>@</s>GeoffKeighley <s>@</s>iJustine
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                      • Paul Pierce_OS
                        Don't Kill My Vibe
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 4626

                        #221
                        Re: NBA 2K13 Features Sprite Slam Dunk Contest, 3 Point Contest, Rising Stars Challen

                        Originally posted by LD2k
                        This is what I wanted to hear!
                        NBA 2k13 project:
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                        • JBreezeNY
                          Rookie
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 105

                          #222
                          Re: NBA 2K13 Features Sprite Slam Dunk Contest, 3 Point Contest, Rising Stars Challen

                          Originally posted by LD2k


                          I can live with that.

                          I just have a feeling that it's gonna be like last year's "gameplay reveal" on Geoff's show that only had about 5-10 seconds of actual gameplay lol...

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                          • kolanji
                            Pro
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 872

                            #223
                            Re: NBA 2K13 Features Sprite Slam Dunk Contest, 3 Point Contest, Rising Stars Challen

                            ^^^^^^^ mein all these GIFS are freaking amazing only on OS...gotta LOVE OS
                            Humans fear what they dont understand, hate what they cant concur i guess its just the theory of man

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                            • LD2k
                              2K Sports Community Manager
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 1261

                              #224
                              Re: NBA 2K13 Features Sprite Slam Dunk Contest, 3 Point Contest, Rising Stars Challen

                              Originally posted by kolanji
                              ^^^^^^^ mein all these GIFS are freaking amazing only on OS...gotta LOVE OS
                              I hang out for the .gifs.
                              Community Manager 2K Sports // Twitter: LD2k

                              Master of Operation Sports .gifs

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                              • King_B_Mack
                                All Star
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 24450

                                #225
                                Re: NBA 2K13 Features Sprite Slam Dunk Contest, 3 Point Contest, Rising Stars Challen

                                Can't wait to see how many people that were bitching about wanting the All-Star announcement to be gameplay now find numerous ways to bitch about the gameplay we're going to be getting on Monday.

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