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  • stillfeelme
    MVP
    • Aug 2010
    • 2407

    #211
    Re: NBA 2K13 Signature Skills -- Confirmed Additions vs Speculated Additions

    Originally posted by Colts18
    I wonder if Dime is for Flashy passers.
    Has to be that is what I think it is as well.

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    • jfsolo
      Live Action, please?
      • May 2003
      • 12965

      #212
      Re: NBA 2K13 Signature Skills -- Confirmed Additions vs Speculated Additions

      Originally posted by Fly3
      Are some of these signature skills not redundant? The ratings should determine the skills, and an actual rating scale for skills makes for more variety said skill. I worded that poorly.
      Let's take LeBron and shotblocking. I think that if he didn't have to do so many other things, and focused just on D'ing up that he could average 2+ blocks a game. He's physically gifted enough to do so, but saves his energy for other things.

      For his career though he's averaged .6 to 1.1 blocks a game, so his ratings in the game have to reflect that. In chase down situations though, he takes it out of neutral and gives max effort. The game now has a way to reflect the uniqueness or specialties of players in a way that isn't reflected in the normal ratings or even the tendencies.
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      • Colts18
        MVP
        • Feb 2010
        • 1959

        #213
        Re: NBA 2K13 Signature Skills -- Confirmed Additions vs Speculated Additions

        Outside of Josh and LeBron, I can't see anyone else having chase down.

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        • LeBronistheKing
          MVP
          • Aug 2010
          • 1040

          #214
          Re: NBA 2K13 Signature Skills -- Confirmed Additions vs Speculated Additions

          Originally posted by Colts18
          Outside of Josh and LeBron, I can't see anyone else having chase down.

          Maybe Wade although I'm hoping he has his own block signature skill since he is an excellent shot blocker at the guard position, often blocking centers and forwards.

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          • Norris_Cole
            Pro
            • Jan 2012
            • 778

            #215
            Re: NBA 2K13 Signature Skills -- Confirmed Additions vs Speculated Additions

            Originally posted by Colts18
            Outside of Josh and LeBron, I can't see anyone else having chase down.
            Nic Batum, he gets a lot of chasedowns, and on top of that, he is a better shotblocker than lebron.

            Check video

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            • Colts18
              MVP
              • Feb 2010
              • 1959

              #216
              Re: NBA 2K13 Signature Skills -- Confirmed Additions vs Speculated Additions

              Also a "Speedster" trait to seperate guys like John Wall.
              If we have speed ratings, what would be the point?

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              • DukeC
                Banned
                • Jul 2011
                • 5751

                #217
                Re: NBA 2K13 Signature Skills -- Confirmed Additions vs Speculated Additions

                Originally posted by Colts18
                If we have speed ratings, what would be the point?
                I think it would be the difference between guys like Rondo and John Wall and guys like Darren Collison and Tony Parker. Both Collison and Parker are very fast, but they aren't known for being one man fast breaks like Rondo and Wall.

                I would imagine it's to further seperate players who like to intiate the fast break themselves. Hence "one man" fastbreak.

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                • Colts18
                  MVP
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 1959

                  #218
                  Re: NBA 2K13 Signature Skills -- Confirmed Additions vs Speculated Additions

                  Originally posted by DukeC
                  I think it would be the difference between guys like Rondo and John Wall and guys like Darren Collison and Tony Parker. Both Collison and Parker are very fast, but they aren't known for being one man fast breaks like Rondo and Wall.

                  I would imagine it's to further seperate players who like to intiate the fast break themselves. Hence "one man" fastbreak.
                  Again, we have speed ratings to do that.

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                  • illwill10
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 19806

                    #219
                    Re: NBA 2K13 Signature Skills -- Confirmed Additions vs Speculated Additions

                    Originally posted by Colts18
                    I wonder if Dime is for Flashy passers.
                    Originally posted by stillfeelme
                    Has to be that is what I think it is as well.
                    I dont think it is for Flashy Passes. There is tendency for it.

                    It is for players that spot out open teammates for scores. I think it will boost Off Awr for the player who has it, so they can pass it.

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                    • DukeC
                      Banned
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 5751

                      #220
                      Re: NBA 2K13 Signature Skills -- Confirmed Additions vs Speculated Additions

                      Originally posted by Colts18
                      Again, we have speed ratings to do that.
                      Speed ratings determine whether or not someone initate's a fast break by themselves?Do tell where you've seen this in previous 2K's. I'll wait.

                      Now, we've got a confirmed skill that lets the player set good picks called "brick wall". Did we have a rating that did that already? Sure, you could say strength, but, more often then not it had no bearing on whether they set good on-ball or off-ball screen. Any scrub big man would do.

                      It's the same for the Chasedown Block rating. Sure we already had a rating for blocking, but some guys go into that extra gear when trying to stop a fast break oppurtunity, which is what I'm saying.

                      There is a massive difference between this: <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/9M7P4L1U5ys" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

                      And this: <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/aKrfMofaTHI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

                      This is what I think the Speedster skill is, and I would reckon I'm fairly close.

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                      • Hyperballer21
                        MVP
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 2039

                        #221
                        Re: NBA 2K13 Signature Skills -- Confirmed Additions vs Speculated Additions

                        Originally posted by DukeC
                        Speed ratings determine whether or not someone initate's a fast break by themselves?Do tell where you've seen this in previous 2K's. I'll wait.
                        I think <b>speedster</b> is a wrong choice of words, but I agree that something like this needs to be implemented. A few pages back I called it <b>coast-to-coast</b> where a player would grab a rebound and take it all the way.

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                        • richmo
                          Almighty 2k Paper Champ
                          • Jul 2005
                          • 709

                          #222
                          Re: NBA 2K13 Signature Skills -- Confirmed Additions vs Speculated Additions

                          Couldn't it just be a tendency then? Like, a "push the ball" tendency. It's not like Rondo and Wall don't have the speed, it's just their choice not to, right?

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                          • DukeC
                            Banned
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 5751

                            #223
                            Re: NBA 2K13 Signature Skills -- Confirmed Additions vs Speculated Additions

                            Originally posted by Hyperballer21
                            I think speedster is a wrong choice of words, but I agree that something like this needs to be implemented. A few pages back I called it coast-to-coast where a player would grab a rebound and take it all the way.
                            I do agree it's a poor choice of words. But then, Corner Man is also a wrong choice of words/redundant since they already employ hotspots right?

                            I can see what they mean by it though, if it in fact, works that way.

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                            • Hyperballer21
                              MVP
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 2039

                              #224
                              Re: NBA 2K13 Signature Skills -- Confirmed Additions vs Speculated Additions

                              Originally posted by DukeC
                              I do agree it's a poor choice of words. But then, Corner Man is also a wrong choice of words/redundant since they already employ hotspots right?

                              I can see what they mean by it though, if it in fact, works that way.
                              It sort of depends on what they plan on doing with hotspots and hotzones this year. I are assuming that they will keep these in the game (i dont see why they would remove them if they worked, but you never know lol).

                              I am thinking that this particular icon and a few others are something for a casual user or someone who is not familiar with a paticular player to know what their skills are. In 2k12, if I was unexperienced with playing with someone like Shane Battier offensively, I would think he could shoot 3's from anywhere due to his rating since we aren't able to pull up hotzones or hotspots DURING GAMEPLAY. So I can see how a CORNER SPECIALIST icon would help.

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                              • Eman5805
                                MVP
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 3545

                                #225
                                Re: NBA 2K13 Signature Skills -- Confirmed Additions vs Speculated Additions

                                I think the part that makes Corner Man less redundant than just having a hot spot is that, much like how Westbrook will display more moves near the basket by having Acrobat, the Corner Specialist will more likely gravitate towards the corner more often now instead of sometimes being elsewhere.

                                And if Speedster means they'll push fast breaks solo more often, then it's quite different than just having someone 90+ speed.

                                The more I think of this, the more I think these sig skills are more for the CPU's benefit of having players play like their real selves than me or some joe schmoe to know how to use player X cuz he's a Finisher with Chase Down.
                                Last edited by Eman5805; 08-18-2012, 04:55 PM.

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