Is 2k gonna continue to overrate Wade?

[Joobieo]

Re: Is 2k gonna continue to overrate Wade?

its about FG% not numbers. Thats what should determine ratings. Wade isnt consistant anymore just like ray allen. Guys want him to have a high rating just be cause his name is dwane wade not because of his efficiency on the court. In 2k12 i lobbied to have mellos rating decreased afte he was playing like garbage for 2 months. Only people that tried to defend his 84 midrange was knicks fans flooding twitter and lobbying against his rating decrease. Insider listened to me after the obvious proof of his poor play and when playoffs came around and he switch to PF from SF while playing better , his ratings went back up to reflect that. Wade should have to go through the same thing, no "superstar calls" here

Just to pick your brain a little bit with this discussion because I find it interesting , how long would a player have to play bad for before he has his rating decline ?

[kabluey]

Re: Is 2k gonna continue to overrate Wade?

wade is still a good player!

[UnbelievablyRAW]

Re: Is 2k gonna continue to overrate Wade?

its about FG% not numbers. Thats what should determine ratings. Wade isnt consistant anymore just like ray allen. Guys want him to have a high rating just be cause his name is dwane wade not because of his efficiency on the court. In 2k12 i lobbied to have mellos rating decreased afte he was playing like garbage for 2 months. Only people that tried to defend his 84 midrange was knicks fans flooding twitter and lobbying against his rating decrease. Insider listened to me after the obvious proof of his poor play and when playoffs came around and he switch to PF from SF while playing better , his ratings went back up to reflect that. Wade should have to go through the same thing, no "superstar calls" here

Except that Wade is consistent. Did you expect him to continue averaging 27 with bosh and Lebron while playing LESS minutes? He still shoots 50% and gets 2 steals, a block and 5 rebounds and assists.

[SouthBeach]

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Unfortunately I think Wade's numbers will only go down, not only because of age and injuries, but because of his new "I don't need to be the alpha dog, LeBron is better than me, we don't need 2 players to score 27 ppg" mentality.

James will even be better this season and do everything like he did last season: passing, rebounding and scoring. I still don't understand this new mentality by Wade and I'm very disappointed. He was my favourite player.

Of course I hope he'll prove me wrong and that he'll be the fantastic scorer that we all know.

"Just because I took a step back, that don't mean I'm gone." - Dwyane Wade

[2_headedmonster]

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This Kobe vs wade debate is interesting I'll put in my two cents.


If Kobe was on a team like the heat his whole career would he be as enriched in the media and record books as he currently is ? I don't think so , Kobe for most of his career has had an amazing supporting cast and the numbers don't lie for wade he's right on par with Kobe .

Signed a third party ( I don't like either player )

If kobe played with another team his whole career his numbers would be historic. Look at the 06 season.

On topic tho, dwade is still good, but as a whole, 2k tends to overrate players.

[ScootsMcGee]

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The problem with rating D-Wade is that injuries have hampered most of his career. I think while he's still one of the best finishers in the NBA, his athleticism and dunking should definitely take a dip this year. Otherwise, Wade is playing as consistent as ever. I expect that his rating will be in the low 90s.

[firerises]

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The guy posted the 3rd best PER in the league at 26.37 and shot 49.7 % from the field, averaged 22.1 pts, 4.8 rebs, 4.6 assts, 1.7 stls, 1.3 blks (He's 6'4!!!) in 33.2 minutes (Career low) and he's overrated?! Like others have said, you have to consider the fact that he's now relegated to being a sidekick and had some lingering issues with his knee. As a result, his points (the sexiest stat) are gonna be down, but he is by no means playing like crap. Still one of the best all-around players in the game.

[chandlerbang]

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The guy posted the 3rd best PER in the league at 26.37 and shot 49.7 % from the field, averaged 22.1 pts, 4.8 rebs, 4.6 assts, 1.7 stls, 1.3 blks (He's 6'4!!!) in 33.2 minutes (Career low) and he's overrated?! Like others have said, you have to consider the fact that he's now relegated to being a sidekick and had some lingering issues with his knee. As a result, his points (the sexiest stat) are gonna be down, but he is by no means playing like crap. Still one of the best all-around players in the game.

i knew this would turn into one of those 2k.com forum debates. Let his play this season determine his ratings like it should be . IF he is inconsistant his rating will be low and if he plays his normal game he will have high ratings. case closed. No need for last seasons stats to detemine his future. overall means nothing in 2k games never has but it keeps the casuals happy

[firerises]

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its about FG% not numbers. Thats what should determine ratings. Wade isnt consistant anymore just like ray allen. Guys want him to have a high rating just be cause his name is dwane wade not because of his efficiency on the court.

He literally has the 3rd best PER (Player Efficiency Rating) in the league at 26.37. Also from hoopdata

shot 66% at the rim on 6.7 attempts, 43.7% from 3-9 ft on 2.8 attempts, 43.8% on 2.1 attempts from 10-15 ft and 37% on 4.3 attempts from 16-23 ft

By comparison Kobe
66.2% on 3.5 attempts at the rim, 42.6% on 3 attempts 3-9 ft, 42.1% on 3.8 attempts from 10-15 ft and 41% on 7.7 attempts from 16-23


Wade shot 49.7% overall and Kobe 43%. Kobe's PER also was 21.95.

So what are you talking about regarding FG% and efficiency?

[firerises]

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i knew this would turn into one of those 2k forum debates. Let his play this season determine his ratings like it should be . IF he is inconsistant his rating will be low and if he plays his normal game he will have high ratings. case closed. No need for last seasons stats to detemine his future. overall means nothing in 2k games never has but it keeps the casuals happy

how exactly are you supposed to determine ratings if you don't incorporate the previous season's play?

[nova91]

Re: Is 2k gonna continue to overrate Wade?

i knew this would turn into one of those 2k.com forum debates. Let his play this season determine his ratings like it should be . IF he is inconsistant his rating will be low and if he plays his normal game he will have high ratings. case closed. No need for last seasons stats to detemine his future. overall means nothing in 2k games never has but it keeps the casuals happy

His last seasons play should determine his 2k13 starting rating and go up or down throughout the 2k13 season due to his play in the NBA season. His last seasons numbers are worthy of a 91-93 rating to start the season due to the all around level of play last season.

[Colts18]

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His last seasons play should determine his 2k13 starting rating and go up or down throughout the 2k13 season due to his play in the NBA season. His last seasons numbers are worthy of a 91-93 rating to start the season due to the all around level of play last season.

Which brings up the point.

Why aren't people just rated whatever they were rated in the last update of the previous title?

Why should someone be rated better/worse in 2K13 than they were in the last 2K12 update?

[firerises]

Re: Is 2k gonna continue to overrate Wade?

Which brings up the point.

Why aren't people just rated whatever they were rated in the last update of the previous title?

Why should someone be rated better/worse in 2K13 than they were in the last 2K12 update?

Probably because of changes in the formula that emphasize or de-emphasize certain attributes in relation to it's weight on the overall. Also they might take a closer look at the players (watch more film, etc) than they had time to during the season so they can change things they missed, probably also get to players they didn't really pay enough attention to (role players and the like).

[firerises]

Re: Is 2k gonna continue to overrate Wade?

His last seasons play should determine his 2k13 starting rating and go up or down throughout the 2k13 season due to his play in the NBA season. His last seasons numbers are worthy of a 91-93 rating to start the season due to the all around level of play last season.

Don't mean to start an argument or anything, just curious as to why you would have him as low as a 91 or 92? What would you lower?

[J_Posse]

Which brings up the point.

Why aren't people just rated whatever they were rated in the last update of the previous title?

Why should someone be rated better/worse in 2K13 than they were in the last 2K12 update?

Well, from my understanding all players aren't adjusted throughout the season. They need to address those players, plus incoming rookies and also take into account the playoffs. The playoffs shouldn't have a huge impact but it should matter.

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