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  • Colts18
    MVP
    • Feb 2010
    • 1959

    #166
    Re: NBA 2K13 Signature Skills Revealed For Derrick Rose, Blake Griffin and Michael Jo

    You aren't listening to a word I am saying 24.

    I never once said I expect it to happen at a high rate. I am simply saying that it shouldn't even be a sig skill.

    Why? Because we already have dribble ratings and sub-divisions called abilities.

    Why not just allow the people with high marks in both of those categories get the "ankle breaking skill" instead of giving it an official label?

    They can achieve the same thing through that route.

    Make it very rare and exclusive to those I mentioned above. But when you put a label on it you official make it a gimmick.

    Why do that?

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    • Goffs
      New Ork Giants
      • Feb 2003
      • 12279

      #167
      Re: NBA 2K13 Signature Skills Revealed For Derrick Rose, Blake Griffin and Michael Jo

      Originally posted by The 24th Letter
      Because it is all assumptions.

      Seems like people are getting worked up for the sake of getting worked up...

      In the years we've played 2k, weve never seen a situation where defenders fall at a high rate- I dont see that happening In 2k13- can we at least let it be explained first? I don't get it, lol
      Yes this ffs people why not wait till all info is released and see how it plays out. I mean the community guys didn't even complain about the signature skills. I don't even think they noticed any difference....

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      • The 24th Letter
        ERA
        • Oct 2007
        • 39373

        #168
        Originally posted by Colts18
        You aren't listening to a word I am saying 24.

        I never once said I expect it to happen at a high rate. I am simply saying that it shouldn't even be a sig skill.

        Why? Because we already have dribble ratings and sub-divisions called abilities.

        Why not just allow the people with high marks in both of those categories get the "ankle breaking skill" instead of giving it an official label?

        They can achieve the same thing through that route.

        Make it very rare and exclusive to those I mentioned above. But when you put a label on it you official make it a gimmick.

        Why do that?
        Wait,

        So if you don't think its going to be overpowered, what exactly is the complaint? You don't like the fact it's called "ankle breaking"?

        I'm lost.

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        • The 24th Letter
          ERA
          • Oct 2007
          • 39373

          #169
          Originally posted by Goffs
          Yes this ffs people why not wait till all info is released and see how it plays out. I mean the community guys didn't even complain about the signature skills. I don't even think they noticed any difference....
          If anything, they pointed out how different players felt:...

          But it's that time of year- spazzing first ask questions last

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          • Colts18
            MVP
            • Feb 2010
            • 1959

            #170
            Re: NBA 2K13 Signature Skills Revealed For Derrick Rose, Blake Griffin and Michael Jo

            My issue is it being introduced as one of the signature skills.
            My issue is it being the most gimmick based of the signature skills.
            My issue is it doesn't belong in the game and is not needed at all.

            We already had the resources to make it happen but they just felt the need to throw that 3rd grade gimmick into the game. For what? To make a few thousands kids happy?

            I know they want to sell records but damn 2K. This skill isn't needed.

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            • Conda
              Rookie
              • Jul 2005
              • 139

              #171
              Re: NBA 2K13 Screenshot - Derrick Rose Rated 92, His Signature Skills Revealed

              Originally posted by Blackhail92
              I agree with these also. but couldnt melo be considered having a hustler signature? Ronnie said for blake that a hustler often scores off of his own offensive rebound. and when melo plays bully ball. he does that almost all of the time
              I think they mean players that go all out like diving recklessly for loose balls and sacrificing their bodies like Griffin, Nocioni, Artest, "Psycho T" Handsbrough ect...

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              • Shumpert21
                Banned
                • Apr 2012
                • 189

                #172
                Re: NBA 2K13 Screenshot - Derrick Rose Rated 92, His Signature Skills Revealed

                Originally posted by Conda
                I think they mean players that go all out like diving recklessly for loose balls and sacrificing their bodies like Griffin, Nocioni, Artest, "Psycho T" Handsbrough ect...

                nah ronnie said the skill name was "Hustle Points" which is when a player is more than likely to score off an offensive rebound. hustle points = hustling for the rebound and scoring.

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                • Hyperballer21
                  MVP
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 2040

                  #173
                  Re: NBA 2K13 Signature Skills Revealed For Derrick Rose, Blake Griffin and Michael Jo

                  I'm sure that signature skills are use the differentiate players who would have similar ratings in the past. Lets take dunk rating for example. Two players can have a 99 dunk rating, but that does not mean that they would dunk in the same situation, or even do a certain type of dunk. Lets look at two of the premier dunking bigs in the league:

                  Blake Griffin:
                  - 90+ dunk rating
                  - 90+ dunk tendency
                  - Signature skills related to dunking are: highlight reel, posterizer

                  Dwight Howard
                  - 90+ dunk rating
                  - 90+ dunk tendency
                  - (Likely) Signature skills related to dunking are: posterizer

                  So both of them are good at catching alleys and posterizing defenders. But Blake is more likely to do flashy dunk (windmill, 360, etc) on a open break situation that Dwight. I know we have dunk packages, but we could never choose what dunks they want to do in certain situations.

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                  • Blackhail92
                    Rookie
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 412

                    #174
                    Re: NBA 2K13 Screenshot - Derrick Rose Rated 92, His Signature Skills Revealed

                    Originally posted by Shumpert21
                    nah ronnie said the skill name was "Hustle Points" which is when a player is more than likely to score off an offensive rebound. hustle points = hustling for the rebound and scoring.
                    Yea and i think melo fits that category. Plus Ronnie said these signatures are to separate players ,therefore, melo and Kd cant have all the same signature skills, and that offensive rebound(hustle) one might just be the stat to seperate them. Even tho melo fits into all of the signatures that KD has.

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                    • Shumpert21
                      Banned
                      • Apr 2012
                      • 189

                      #175
                      Re: NBA 2K13 Screenshot - Derrick Rose Rated 92, His Signature Skills Revealed

                      Originally posted by Colts18
                      Ok listen to what I have to say Shump.

                      It is a cheesy skill. There should not be an Ankle Breaking skill for a simulation basketball game.

                      We have a dribbling rating. We have sub-ratings via Abilities that were introduced in 2K12.

                      There is no reason to have this in the game for 2K13. It is cheesy and immature.

                      People can fall randomly and rarely by using the Abilities/Dribbling Ratings. Why not just use that, why make the game more arcade by adding that skill?

                      It is childish. I really don't see how that can be argued.
                      your right about their being dribbling ratings but that is not enough to differeniate players.

                      steve nash and chris paul should will most likely have high dribbling ratings right? but that Signature Skills seperates them because steve nash cannot break peoples ankle.

                      ratings aren't everything.

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                      • J_Posse
                        Greatness Personified
                        • Jun 2005
                        • 11255

                        #176
                        Originally posted by Colts18
                        My issue is it being introduced as one of the signature skills.
                        My issue is it being the most gimmick based of the signature skills.
                        My issue is it doesn't belong in the game and is not needed at all.

                        We already had the resources to make it happen but they just felt the need to throw that 3rd grade gimmick into the game. For what? To make a few thousands kids happy?

                        I know they want to sell records but damn 2K. This skill isn't needed.
                        Couldn't most of the signature skills be considered gimmicky in a sense? We need to see them within the context of the game and figure out which skills are "pointless."

                        I'm interested in seeing the more defensive minded signature skills. Most of the skills showcased thus far are offensively geared and I want to see defensive counters. I'm just worried about an imbalance in gameplay....

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                        • illwill10
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 19824

                          #177
                          Re: NBA 2K13 Signature Skills Revealed For Derrick Rose, Blake Griffin and Michael Jo

                          Originally posted by Hyperballer21
                          I'm sure that signature skills are use the differentiate players who would have similar ratings in the past. Lets take dunk rating for example. Two players can have a 99 dunk rating, but that does not mean that they would dunk in the same situation, or even do a certain type of dunk. Lets look at two of the premier dunking bigs in the league:

                          Blake Griffin:
                          - 90+ dunk rating
                          - 90+ dunk tendency
                          - Signature skills related to dunking are: highlight reel, posterizer

                          Dwight Howard
                          - 90+ dunk rating
                          - 90+ dunk tendency
                          - (Likely) Signature skills related to dunking are: posterizer

                          So both of them are good at catching alleys and posterizing defenders. But Blake is more likely to do flashy dunk (windmill, 360, etc) on a open break situation that Dwight. I know we have dunk packages, but we could never choose what dunks they want to do in certain situations.
                          Posterizer could also prevent any player from Dunking on someone. Last year, basically anyone could dunk on someone at times if they had a dunk ratings over 75.

                          Finisher is most likely Shoot in traffic.

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                          • tetoleetd
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 1151

                            #178
                            Re: NBA 2K13 Signature Skills Revealed For Derrick Rose, Blake Griffin and Michael Jo

                            c+ handles for griffin and c- outside shooting? idk about all that

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                            • Thunder Storm
                              Rookie
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 480

                              #179
                              Re: NBA 2K13 Signature Skills Revealed For Derrick Rose, Blake Griffin and Michael Jo

                              Originally posted by tetoleetd
                              c+ handles for griffin and c- outside shooting? idk about all that
                              You forget that grades and certain attributes translate differently for each position.

                              If you were to make Griffin a SF or SG, those grades would become worse.
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                              • J_Posse
                                Greatness Personified
                                • Jun 2005
                                • 11255

                                #180
                                Originally posted by illwill10
                                Posterizer could also prevent any player from Dunking on someone. Last year, basically anyone could dunk on someone at times if they had a dunk ratings over 75.

                                Finisher is most likely Shoot in traffic.
                                Shot, I've seen those annoying dunk-on animations trigger even when a player has a 70 rating. I'm hoping that the Dynamic Shot Generator will effect those animations a lot more this year. I'm also hoping we'll see some believeable and varying blocked dunk (i.e. Ibaka or Dwight) animations this year.

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