Has Reggie Miller been confirmed?

[ojandpizza]

I love Reggie.. But he was never an elite player.. He hasn't ever even had great stats. No championships. I'm not trying to sound harsh but really he hasn't done anything lol.. Just really fun to watch

[daveberg]

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Would rather watch Reggie splashing 3's in the clutch than Lebron James/ Westbrook/blake and the rest of todays bratt pack.

Reggie had game. Fantastic off the ball. Gritty, agressive and even slightly dirty edge to his play. The man wasn't afraid of the big moments.

God I miss 90's basketball.

[alecast]

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I find funny that these kids think they can compare players they have never seen play to the ones that are in the NBA today.
Kids, stop dissing old school players you have only seen in highlight reels.
Basketball today is boring compared to the 80s and the 90s, that is a fact that anybody who`s been watching games the past 30 years will agree with.
I`m not saying that the league is not good, it still has plenty of talent, but it is just not that fun anymore. Too many teams that don`t deserve to be in the NBA (Bobcats, Pistons, Raptors...) too many players that think they can play in a high level, when they don`t and only 1 dominant center!
The 90`s: Ewing, Robinson, Olajuwon, Mourning, Mutombo, O`neal... Nuff said...
Reggie Miller is a hell of a player and anyone who says he is overrated only proves what I´ve just said above.

[BegBy]

I love Reggie.. But he was never an elite player.. He hasn't ever even had great stats. No championships. I'm not trying to sound harsh but really he hasn't done anything lol.. Just really fun to watch

I'd argue that he was elite. He was a game changer. He could easily change the course of a game in about 1 second. He was not afraid to shoot, and he made some big shots.

I'm a biased Pacers fan, though, which I openly admit. However, Reggie Miller will always be considered elite by some fans of that era of basketball. Just ask Spike Lee.

SG3/Tapatalk 2

[TRHINO]

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Would rather watch Reggie splashing 3's in the clutch than Lebron James/ Westbrook/blake and the rest of todays bratt pack.

Reggie had game. Fantastic off the ball. Gritty, agressive and even slightly dirty edge to his play. The man wasn't afraid of the big moments.

God I miss 90's basketball.

I am with you on that i missed all of the 90's players that era was and still is the BEST, guys actually played defense and knew how to play the game, the guys today a babied by these soft rules and they are just athletic they really dont know how to play the game like the guys from the 80-90's

[TRHINO]

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I find funny that these kids think they can compare players they have never seen play to the ones that are in the NBA today.
Kids, stop dissing old school players you have only seen in highlight reels.
Basketball today is boring compared to the 80s and the 90s, that is a fact that anybody who`s been watching games the past 30 years will agree with.
I`m not saying that the league is not good, it still has plenty of talent, but it is just not that fun anymore. Too many teams that don`t deserve to be in the NBA (Bobcats, Pistons, Raptors...) too many players that think they can play in a high level, when they don`t and only 1 dominant center!
The 90`s: Ewing, Robinson, Olajuwon, Mourning, Mutombo, O`neal... Nuff said...
Reggie Miller is a hell of a player and anyone who says he is overrated only proves what I´ve just said above.

THANK YOU!!! This is what i have been saying all along, when people talk about Lebron i laugh because what he does Pippen did it and better and he did it in and era of Big men and during a time when teams played defense, as well as during a time when the greatest players played.

[LRBTODAY]

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Reggie Miller was Elite? Really? I mean he was clutch when his team needed him to be, but I never said to myself or out loud that Miller was in the top ten in the NBA ever. EVER!!!!!! I'm 32 yrs old so I think I can say that since I grew up watching him. He was an all star for sure, but I always had 3 SG's ahead of him.


I'm just saying. Maybe I'm reading what you guys are saying the wrong way. But when I see Elite I think of top ten or 20.

[JBCAROLINAKID]

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Would rather watch Reggie splashing 3's in the clutch than Lebron James/ Westbrook/blake and the rest of todays bratt pack.

Reggie had game. Fantastic off the ball. Gritty, agressive and even slightly dirty edge to his play. The man wasn't afraid of the big moments.

God I miss 90's basketball.

Amen brother. I couldn't agree more, Reggie was an assassin with the ball in the clutch.

[KyotoCarl]

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Why has this thread turned into a Reggie Miller comparison thread? Isn't that best suited for the Pro Basketball forum?

To answer the question; no he hasn't been confirmed.

[Ricky Rowe Zay]

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Because Reggie is a Hall of Famer who doesn't get his due because he was in Indiana for his whole career. I don't see why he is left out because his teams weren't legendary. How are the 90's Magic legendary? 90's Warriors and Kings? 80's Hawks, 90's Cav's, 90's Hornets? I don't see how all those are more legendary than the Pacers. Reggie deserves to be in the game just as much as A.I. does.

You're missing the point.

Those are teams that are recognizable and have a purpose in the game as an opponent for some of the actual "legendary teams".

I dont see where exactly any of the 90's Pacers teams fall in line with those teams you just mentioned. Once again, the most memorable series they had was vs the Knicks but that doesn't make them "legendary". Miami had a memorable series with the Knicks as well that led to the infamous Van Gundy incident. The Knicks were included to basically be an opponent for the Bulls because they were the 2nd best team in the East throughout the 90's. The Knicks-Bulls rivalry during that time was bigger than the Knicks-Pacers rivalry.

There were other great memorable runs as well, 04 Pistons are more legendary than the one man band Sixers, yet they aren't in the game. Plus the Pacers whooped the Sixers the prior year, what's your point? Allen was a very good little man player, but if i was starting a team i would obviously choose Reggie. So you're right this is apples and oranges. Reggie was the better player, and springfield also agrees with me.

- The 2004 Pistons aren't included, most likely because outside of Rasheed Wallace the rest of the members of the team are still playing in the NBA at the moment.

- Reggie Miller was not a better player than Allen Iverson, a more efficient shooter, but not a better overall player on both ends of the floor. Him being a Hall of Famer is expected and well deserved, but he was not a 1st ballot Hall of Famer the way that Allen Iverson will be.

[Ricky Rowe Zay]

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Reggie Miller was Elite? Really? I mean he was clutch when his team needed him to be, but I never said to myself or out loud that Miller was in the top ten in the NBA ever. EVER!!!!!! I'm 32 yrs old so I think I can say that since I grew up watching him. He was an all star for sure, but I always had 3 SG's ahead of him.


I'm just saying. Maybe I'm reading what you guys are saying the wrong way. But when I see Elite I think of top ten or 20.

Unfortunately, a lot of people tend to overrate anybody who played during the career of Michael Jordan.

Im expecting someone will be campaigning for the addition of Allen Houston & Latrell Sprewell too just so all bases are covered.

[Ricky Rowe Zay]

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Agreed. Like I said, as a Laker fan, I respected and feared Reggie's Pacers far more than Iverson's 76ers in the NBA Finals played against each.

And on the Iverson vs. Miller debate. A couple of interesting stats.

Miller played in 1389 games to Iverson's 914 so there is a big reason why Reggie has scored more total points than Iverson in his career. The interesting thing is this. Iverson has some 19000+ times in those 914 games played with a .42% FG and .31% 3PT percentages to Miller's 17000+ times in 1389 games with a .47% FG and .395% 3PT percentages. I just wondered how many points Miller would have averaged per game if he jacked up as many shots as Mr. Volume Shooter did his whole career.

You can only come off of so many screens during the course of the game.

If Reggie had the talent that Iverson had with the ball in his hands, he probably would've been more effective consistently as a scorer.

While Reggie's numbers are more efficient when looking at the stats, you have to realize that players such as Iverson & Kobe who have worse FG%'s for their career than Reggie take a lot of their shots off of the dribble while contested most of the time.

Iverson may have shot 31% from 3 for his career, but I dont think anybody would say that he couldn't shoot. He just pulled up for a lot of 3's with a hand in his face.

[KyotoCarl]

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You can only come off of so many screens during the course of the game.

If Reggie had the talent that Iverson had with the ball in his hands, he probably would've been more effective consistently as a scorer.

While Reggie's numbers are more efficient when looking at the stats, you have to realize that players such as Iverson & Kobe who have worse FG%'s for their career than Reggie take a lot of their shots off of the dribble while contested most of the time.

Iverson may have shot 31% from 3 for his career, but I dont think anybody would say that he couldn't shoot. He just pulled up for a lot of 3's with a hand in his face.

Michael Jordan was solid around 50% his whole career on field goal shooting and he was contested most of the time, like AI and Kobe.

[Saturnis]

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You're missing the point.

Those are teams that are recognizable and have a purpose in the game as an opponent for some of the actual "legendary teams".

I dont see where exactly any of the 90's Pacers teams fall in line with those teams you just mentioned. Once again, the most memorable series they had was vs the Knicks but that doesn't make them "legendary". Miami had a memorable series with the Knicks as well that led to the infamous Van Gundy incident. The Knicks were included to basically be an opponent for the Bulls because they were the 2nd best team in the East throughout the 90's. The Knicks-Bulls rivalry during that time was bigger than the Knicks-Pacers rivalry.



- The 2004 Pistons aren't included, most likely because outside of Rasheed Wallace the rest of the members of the team are still playing in the NBA at the moment.

- Reggie Miller was not a better player than Allen Iverson, a more efficient shooter, but not a better overall player on both ends of the floor. Him being a Hall of Famer is expected and well deserved, but he was not a 1st ballot Hall of Famer the way that Allen Iverson will be.

- Those teams made sense in the jordan challenge, and the legends challenge. So what you're saying is because it doesn't serve a purpose don't add it? that's ridiculous. If that's the case why add the 76ers? they really serve no purpose just as much as the pacers do.

- Knicks-Bulls rivalry being bigger i would have to disagree with, nothing was more exciting than going against Reggie. With Mike you knew it was basically a loss, but with Reggie it was more even, and more exciting because it would come down to the wire, and usually 7 games. I'm from New York, so i may sound bias but i loved watching the pacers and knicks far more than the bulls.

- the 04' Pistons was used as an example for the 76ers being included because they were "memorable"

- You're opinion, but i grew up on both, and reggie is the better player. Mark Jackson recently claimed he was the 3rd best shooting guard all time, and i can't argue with that. He wasn't just a shooter, and because he was so good at it, it classifies him as just that, but that's far from the truth. A.I. being 1st ballot will most likely be because of his name above anything else. He's good, just not Reggie good in my opinion.

Unfortunately, a lot of people tend to overrate anybody who played during the career of Michael Jordan.

Like who? and if that's the case then you're saying Jordan played in an era full of over rated players, which doesn't make his career look that good. (not a Jordan fan anyway)

[Scramz718]

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Kids, stop dissing old school players you have only seen in highlight reels.
Basketball today is boring compared to the 80s and the 90s, that is a fact that anybody who`s been watching games the past 30 years will agree with.
I`m not saying that the league is not good, it still has plenty of talent, but it is just not that fun anymore. Too many teams that don`t deserve to be in the NBA (Bobcats, Pistons, Raptors...) too many players that think they can play in a high level, when they don`t and only 1 dominant center!
The 90`s: Ewing, Robinson, Olajuwon, Mourning, Mutombo, O`neal... Nuff said...
Reggie Miller is a hell of a player and anyone who says he is overrated only proves what I´ve just said above.

For me today's NBA is more exciting to watch, the player are more athletic and the rules favor perimeter players. Its a faster pace game. In the 90's it was more of a fiscal game with a slower pace. It was a grind them out and bang them up type of game. Like you said they were about 6 to 7 dominant bigs, that were good on both sides of the floor. Today's NBA don't even have 1 dominate big on the offensive end. I guess its all about you prefer. I rather a faster pace game Dominated by PG, SG,and SF.