NBA 2K13 Ratings: Steve Nash - 87, Danny Granger - 84, Kenneth Faried - 76

[J_Posse]

That's debatable, as a pure point yes, shooter yes. Consistency yes. Defensively no (albeit Tony isn't that great either) and finisher no. Who would i rather have on my team? Nash. With him you wouldn't need to run plays.

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Actually, Paker is a much better one-on-one defender, while Nash is a slightly better team defender (due in part to his ability to take charges). Nash is a better passer and shooter, but Parker is equal or better in every other aspect. Unfortunately, Parker being a below average three-point shooter will always lead to a less than stellar overall. Nash doesn't play enough defense or play well enough without the ball, an underrated aspect of Parker's game, for me to take him over Tony.

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[J_Posse]

I'd say defense is even debatable. When pop would rather use Danny Green to guard point guards, TP's defense is pretty much suspect. The only thing TP has over Nash is speed & quickness.

Umm, didn't he do that with Bruce Bowen? And that wasn't Danny Green defending Russell Westbrook (who had a poor series except for game 6) throughout the WCF. Pop uses both Leonard and Green as primary defender against elite (or quality) scorers to rest Tony or Manu on that end.

The same thing Phil Jackson did for Kobe with Artest/World Peace and Ariza, yet Kobe is still lauded as an elite defender. Parker isn't elite, especially when there are few at the PG spot, but he is a quality defender when his effort is their. The only person that torched him all last season badly was Derrick Rose, while he played all other PGs well without a quality back-up.

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[jfsolo]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings: Steve Nash - 87, Danny Granger - 84, Kenneth Faried - 76

I'm not one to get into debates about Overalls, as my philosophy is, get all the individual ratings right and whatever the Overall ends up being, so be it. With that being said though, if all the individual ratings are on point, IMO Tony Parker should be rated 2 or 3 points higher than Nash.

[SteboSSK]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings: Steve Nash - 87, Danny Granger - 84, Kenneth Faried - 76

GRANGER 84? all he does it shoot, not a good rebounder or defender

Advanced stats would suggest you have no clue what you are talking about. Seeing Granger get cooked by the best player in the NBA doesnt make him an inept defender. He is actually one of the better on ball defenders in the NBA.

[Thunder Storm]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings: Steve Nash - 87, Danny Granger - 84, Kenneth Faried - 76

It's crazy to see someone call Granger a bad defender. It's like ever since his floor game developed his defense has become maaad underrated.

[SteboSSK]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings: Steve Nash - 87, Danny Granger - 84, Kenneth Faried - 76

I'm not one to get into debates about Overalls, as my philosophy is, get all the individual ratings right and whatever the Overall ends up being, so be it. With that being said though, if all the individual ratings are on point, IMO Tony Parker should be rated 2 or 3 points higher than Nash.

Its funny how you advocate the OVR shouldnt matter and say that if all the individual ratings things will be fine but then go on to say Parker should be 2-3 pts higher than Nash. 2-3 pts higher than Nash based on what analysis?

Nash is better than Parker in every area of offense than Parker outside of finishing at the rim. Parker is a better on ball defender but thats not really saying much since its Nash. If you have something to counter this argument feel free. Just dont come back without some facts or statistical analysis in your argument.

[Colts18]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings: Steve Nash - 87, Danny Granger - 84, Kenneth Faried - 76

I'm not one to get into debates about Overalls, as my philosophy is, get all the individual ratings right and whatever the Overall ends up being, so be it. With that being said though, if all the individual ratings are on point, IMO Tony Parker should be rated 2 or 3 points higher than Nash.

You do understand that you paragraph is a contradiction?

[TJ820]

Signature Skills are

Steve Nash- Dimer, Floor General, Deadeye, Spot up Shooter

Danny Granger- Spot up Shooter, Active Hands, Heat Retention

Kenneth Faried- Hustle Points, Scrapper, Active Hands

[Belly_of_a_Whale]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings: Steve Nash - 87, Danny Granger - 84, Kenneth Faried - 76

287,000 followers.

We're due for three more. Gimme gimme gimme!

[icemanfrost]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings: Steve Nash - 87, Danny Granger - 84, Kenneth Faried - 76

That's debatable, as a pure point yes, shooter yes. Consistency yes. Defensively no (albeit Tony isn't that great either) and finisher no. Who would i rather have on my team? Nash. With him you wouldn't need to run plays.

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Dude its not debatable tony parker was an MVP canidate most of the season if you are gonna break down by individual skills I can make a case for leonard being a better player than nash but that wouldn't be true.


Typical laker fan lol

[RedSceptile]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings: Steve Nash - 87, Danny Granger - 84, Kenneth Faried - 76

Second year all defense for the first time since 05 lol what do you want his defense to be sir?

Kobe hasn't been an All Defensive player in almost 3 seasons. He's getting by just on reputation now.

[SteboSSK]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings: Steve Nash - 87, Danny Granger - 84, Kenneth Faried - 76

Dude its not debatable tony parker was an MVP canidate most of the season if you are gonna break down by individual skills I can make a case for leonard being a better player than nash but that wouldn't be true.


Typical laker fan lol

How is this a typical Laker fan reply when any Suns fan would argue the same. Tony Parker was in the MVP race b/c the Spurs were racking up wins. Thats how the MVP works. Nash is better than Parker in every area of offense outside of finishing at the rim. Its that simple. If you want to debate the facts then lets do that but arguing your feelings and taking shots at what team a person roots for takes away from the real debate.

[Neoda2khead]

I don't feel like everyone even deserves a skill . Nash could get dimer and floor general but ratings should still be the main thing that determines how good someone is . For example ... Raja bell is a good on-ball defender but not of the caliber of a Andre Iggy . So therefore u give Iggy the lockdown defender and don't give it to bell . Simply because all raja needs to play defense would be his regular defensive rating .

[Neoda2khead]

1- Nash is to high, if he plays very well for a period of time during the season will 2k boost his overall to 90? imagine that Nash, kobe, Howard all in 90's ratings everyone will suck off the Lakers online

2- Granger- Danny G ain't no scrub player a 84 seems just about right for him

3- Faried -76 fair enough he was one of the better/impressive rookies out the 2011-2012 draft class (Faried, Irving, Shumpert, Leonard, Rubio, Kemba, Klay Thompson, Brooks, all deserve fair ratings they had good seasons as rookies.

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(signature skills They should have)

Nash- Dimer, Floor General, ally ooper

Granger- Spot up shooter, Deadeye, Shot creator

Faried -Scrapper, Hustle points, Break starter (Maybe)

Nash's pass rating is prolly gonna be high he might not need alley ooper

[grahf21]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings: Steve Nash - 87, Danny Granger - 84, Kenneth Faried - 76

I'm fine with Nash rating since Nash is the purest of pure point guards, but Nash doesn't come close to Parker as an overall player in the year 2012.