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  • Saturnis
    Rookie
    • Aug 2012
    • 125

    #76
    Re: Not Quite 99 Problems, But is Jay-Z One?

    Originally posted by coolcras7
    You are aware besides being a musician, owner of a record label, former president of a record company, he is also a partial owner of a BASKETBALL TEAM, I think some people are only thinking of Jay Z as a rapper, he is a very success business man who last night hosted the President of the United States.
    tired of reading this about jay



    if you call that a partial owner then lol. Nets brought him on board solely for marketing and because he's from Brooklyn.

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    • Rule of Two
      Banned
      • Aug 2011
      • 182

      #77
      Re: Not Quite 99 Problems, But is Jay-Z One?

      Originally posted by coolcras7
      So who help get a completed dream team, you go ahead thinking he is just a rapper. He has the respect of a-lot of people all over the world and probably has more connection than 2k currently has.
      2K already had all of the players for the Dream besides one or two. Charles probably hopped aboard because 2K was able to give him more money this time around. Scottie decided to join as well because people were upset about him not being included. Jay-Z did what? Nothing significant? Sounds about right to me.

      It looks like Jay designed some ugly menus and we'll probably be stuck with some of his ****ty music as well. Oh, yay!

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      • kjjnesb
        Pro
        • Jun 2007
        • 842

        #78
        Re: Not Quite 99 Problems, But is Jay-Z One?

        Originally posted by nddot
        did i just read somebody say that the presentation doesnt look professional?





        People love to complain about everything.

        "oh noes, it has gold and swordz!"
        "oh noes 2k!!! jay-z is a sell out he doesn(t know nothing about basketball!!"

        Some of y'all sound very depressed.
        Dude its a sports game website and this is a board in specific relation to the NBA 2K series of course things like that are going to get are going to get looked at under a microscope and talked about.

        People have the right to express their reasonable displeasure and defend it with in a reasonable measure on both accounts and for the most part from the way this topic unfolded no one is boycotting the game over the swords or Jay Z's involvement. Some really just don't care for the aesthetics of the menus and I ask how does that make them any different that those who talk shoes or anyone in the giant thread about perfecting art assets?

        Some times it really feels like people just love to complain about complainers or wait to call out people who complain I swear lol.

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        • kjjnesb
          Pro
          • Jun 2007
          • 842

          #79
          Re: Not Quite 99 Problems, But is Jay-Z One?

          Originally posted by Rule of Two
          It looks like Jay designed some ugly menus and we'll probably be stuck with some of his ****ty music as well. Oh, yay!
          I disagree about the music he has maybe 4 or 5 songs on the soundtrack which you can turn off but I do think his influence was forced for sure in the area of menus and wipes especially with the throbbing giant mics which has no relation to basketball lol its not a deal breaker tho and I for one welcome his presence and music just not the weird overlays.

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          • Paul Pierce_OS
            Don't Kill My Vibe
            • Sep 2011
            • 4622

            #80
            Originally posted by Rule of Two
            2K already had all of the players for the Dream besides one or two. Charles probably hopped aboard because 2K was able to give him more money this time around. Scottie decided to join as well because people were upset about him not being included. Jay-Z did what? Nothing significant? Sounds about right to me.

            It looks like Jay designed some ugly menus and we'll probably be stuck with some of his ****ty music as well. Oh, yay!
            I love how people think Jay Z is absolutely no influence on getting people to sign,he is probably the GOAT of his kind of music and is known across the world..... Yeah he really had no influence on anything......SMFH.


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            • Rule of Two
              Banned
              • Aug 2011
              • 182

              #81
              Re: Not Quite 99 Problems, But is Jay-Z One?

              Originally posted by Paul Pierce
              I love how people think Jay Z is absolutely no influence on getting people to sign,he is probably the GOAT of his kind of music and is known across the world..... Yeah he really had no influence on anything......SMFH.


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              They only needed Charles Barkley and Christian Laettner to complete the Dream Team. You really think Charles gives a **** about Jay-Z? He wanted more money, not a phone call from some idiot rapper.Calling Jay-Z the greatest of all-time in anything is hilarious to me. SMFH.

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              • King_B_Mack
                All Star
                • Jan 2009
                • 24452

                #82
                Re: Not Quite 99 Problems, But is Jay-Z One?

                Originally posted by Rule of Two
                2K already had all of the players for the Dream besides one or two. Charles probably hopped aboard because 2K was able to give him more money this time around. Scottie decided to join as well because people were upset about him not being included. Jay-Z did what? Nothing significant? Sounds about right to me.

                It looks like Jay designed some ugly menus and we'll probably be stuck with some of his ****ty music as well. Oh, yay!
                Hilarious that guys can give Jay-Z no credit for anything unless it's convenient to their argument. Either he has influence or he doesn't. Cause the menus are gold and have some mics in it he obviously had influence on that, but no way he had any influence on Barkley being in the game? Not like the 2K guys couldn't have come up with the menus and said it was Jay too.

                Cause it totally makes sense that 2K wouldn't pay whatever his asking price was for the last two years and decided to pay it this year even though they were willing to lose Scottie Pippen over payment this very same year. This is the same company that isn't making a college basketball game over an asking price.

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                • Sam Marlowe
                  Banned
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 1229

                  #83
                  Re: Not Quite 99 Problems, But is Jay-Z One?

                  Chuck being the cat he is, highly doubt Jay-Z putting in a good word got him in the game.

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                  • VDusen04
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 13010

                    #84
                    Re: Not Quite 99 Problems, But is Jay-Z One?

                    Originally posted by King_B_Mack
                    Hilarious that guys can give Jay-Z no credit for anything unless it's convenient to their argument. Either he has influence or he doesn't. Cause the menus are gold and have some mics in it he obviously had influence on that, but no way he had any influence on Barkley being in the game? Not like the 2K guys couldn't have come up with the menus and said it was Jay too.

                    Cause it totally makes sense that 2K wouldn't pay whatever his asking price was for the last two years and decided to pay it this year even though they were willing to lose Scottie Pippen over payment this very same year. This is the same company that isn't making a college basketball game over an asking price.
                    I think this is something we're just never going to know. Was it really just 2K finally getting an agreement from Charles Barkley, or was it Jay-Z on the phone saying, "Chuck, I love you and I want you to be with me and 2K. Come on board, buddy." Or maybe Chuck was just about ready to jump on board and Jay simply re-affirmed it was a good idea.

                    That said, I'm also kind of curious how the art direction influence worked. Did Jay-Z submit some rough drafts of what he wanted to see? Or was it just a matter of holding an idea session and Jay-Z saying, "Alright, what we need here is more swords, microphones and golden curly q's." Was he waking up in the middle of the night saying, "Volume level on the score overlay, every basket" or was 2K's art team just throwing together what they thought might be Jay-Z-like?

                    No matter how it's sliced, I think everyone's going to quickly become used to the Jay-Z production. But on that same hand, I'm guessing there's always going to be a fair amount of people who, if they had a choice, would request that he did not repeat his artistic appearance (from the overlay and wipe standpoint) in 2K's next iteration.
                    Last edited by VDusen04; 09-20-2012, 09:26 AM.

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                    • kjjnesb
                      Pro
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 842

                      #85
                      Re: Not Quite 99 Problems, But is Jay-Z One?

                      Originally posted by VDusen04
                      Was he waking up in the middle of the night saying, "Volume level on the score overlay, every basket" or was 2K's art team just throwing together what they thought might be Jay-Z-like?

                      No matter how it's sliced, I think everyone's going to quickly become used to the Jay-Z production. But on that same hand, I'm guessing there's always going to be a fair amount of people who, if they had a choice, would request that he did not repeat his artistic appearance (from the overlay and wipe standpoint) in 2K's next iteration.
                      Lol I'm just laughing imagining Jay calling in and telling the 2K team "Yo....2K I had a dream about......some gold Mics and Swords everywhere... and of course other various music oriented items litered all on the swipes and on replays.... it'll be hot and help us move product....Hova" lol

                      But I don't see it being a big deal either just disappointing 2k went that route but as long as the game is good thats all that really matters I do hope for 2k14 they spring for TNT....

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                      • aloncho11
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 3687

                        #86
                        Re: Not Quite 99 Problems, But is Jay-Z One?

                        The moment some of you google up the meaning of "Executive Producer", you will start to realize what Jay Z has done goes way beyond presentation and soundtrack... it actually has basketball reasons behind it.
                        Only respectable people deserve respect, you destroyed the game.

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                        • nddot
                          Pro
                          • Sep 2012
                          • 611

                          #87
                          Re: Not Quite 99 Problems, But is Jay-Z One?

                          Originally posted by Rule of Two
                          They only needed Charles Barkley and Christian Laettner to complete the Dream Team. You really think Charles gives a **** about Jay-Z? He wanted more money, not a phone call from some idiot rapper.Calling Jay-Z the greatest of all-time in anything is hilarious to me. SMFH.
                          Originally posted by VDusen04
                          I think this is something we're just never going to know. Was it really just 2K finally getting an agreement from Charles Barkley, or was it Jay-Z on the phone saying, "Chuck, I love you and I want you to be with me and 2K. Come on board, buddy." Or maybe Chuck was just about ready to jump on board and Jay simply re-affirmed it was a good idea.
                          .
                          According to Erick Boenisch, thats what happened.

                          Yeah, when Jay found out that we didn’t have Charles Barkley in the fold at that point in time, he was very intent saying “you can’t put the Dream Team out without Charles!”.
                          In the studio we were all like, Jay we have been trying to get Charles in the game over the last 18 months and it just wasn’t happening.
                          One day in the office as we were talking about it Jay-Z pulls his cell out of his pocket and goes “hold on I got this” Jay then calls Charles and he picked up straight away and the deal was done, he even had Charles on speed dial.
                          "I just wanna be heaaaaaaaaard"

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                          • kjjnesb
                            Pro
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 842

                            #88
                            Re: Not Quite 99 Problems, But is Jay-Z One?

                            Originally posted by aloncho11
                            The moment some of you google up the meaning of "Executive Producer", you will start to realize what Jay Z has done goes way beyond presentation and soundtrack... it actually has basketball reasons behind it.
                            Executive Producer is and always has been a very loose term and I don't think Jay Z would get in the way of 2Ks programmers or possible programers who have more basketball knowledge than him. His purpose is helping them capture basketball culture (presentation) music of course and wielding his influence to get Sir Charles and biggest of all markting.

                            One thing that has me scratching my head is Jay couldn't help them get better celebrities for the social media feed lol? If any part of the game he could helped with it could have been that we have Bieber and some kinda famous people
                            Last edited by kjjnesb; 09-20-2012, 10:44 AM.

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                            • VDusen04
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 13010

                              #89
                              Re: Not Quite 99 Problems, But is Jay-Z One?

                              Good stuff. Thanks for that. I definitely appreciate any help he may have provided on the historic player front, but I could have just gone without all the art changes.

                              Originally posted by aloncho11
                              The moment some of you google up the meaning of "Executive Producer", you will start to realize what Jay Z has done goes way beyond presentation and soundtrack... it actually has basketball reasons behind it.
                              Well, I think there's a literal definition of "Executive Producer" but then I also think there's folks who can throw that tag on just about anyone who's sort of involved with a project but not in a specific sense. I think many folks assume it's the latter in Jay-Z's case because they know how little sense it'd make to have Jay-Z truly assuming the role of a traditional executive producer of a basketball video game production.
                              Last edited by VDusen04; 09-20-2012, 10:56 AM.

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                              • aloncho11
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Jul 2010
                                • 3687

                                #90
                                Re: Not Quite 99 Problems, But is Jay-Z One?

                                Originally posted by kjjnesb
                                Executive Producer is and always has been a very loose term and I don't think Jay Z would get in the way of 2Ks programmers or possible programers who have more basketball knowledge than him. His purpose is helping them capture basketball culture (presentation) music of course and wielding his influence to get Sir Charles and biggest of all markting.

                                One thing that has me scratching my head is Jay couldn't help them get better celebrities for the social media feed lol? If any part of the game he could helped with it could have been that we have Bieber and some kinda famous people
                                Who's talking about programming?

                                So do you honestly think he didn't serve as a constant advisor with ideas in several things such as animations, gameplay, game modes, and others feautures?

                                Do you honestly think that he had absolutely no voice in those? Because that's part of being an EP, having a say (and sometimes the final word) on all aspects of the game.
                                Last edited by aloncho11; 09-20-2012, 11:10 AM.
                                Only respectable people deserve respect, you destroyed the game.

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