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  • bamalam
    MVP
    • Nov 2002
    • 1407

    #166
    Re: Association Q and A

    Originally posted by rjohns23
    I'm with you on this. The only solution I see is to make the minutes a player attribute like they used to have it.

    The reason is that the association takes on a "life" of itself. Meaning that the AI has to process information for the team and it would be challenging for the AI to keep rotations and minutes the same (as one has edited it before the start of the association) when all those factors (injuries, moral, players getting better,etc..) come in to play, so I guess they have to make it uniform and simple.

    Now, I am thinking (correct me if I am wrong) that you may be talking about controlling all 30 teams and the minutes still reset. Now that is a pain in the neck if the minutes do reset and you are controlling all 30 teams.

    yeah, 30 teams to avoid all the other issues they have had over the years.

    to me, edited minutes pre-association shouldnt be any harder to track and save than changing them after you start association and edit and save them inside the association. the association has to record/track/save those minutes one way or the other. it "saves" all the other roster information pre-association with completely differnet player included, accessories, etc, shoes, attributes, tendencies,

    so, i believe the minutes not saving are an oversight they have yet to correct.

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    • rjohns23
      Pro
      • Sep 2010
      • 656

      #167
      Re: Association Q and A

      Originally posted by bamalam
      yeah, 30 teams to avoid all the other issues they have had over the years.

      to me, edited minutes pre-association shouldnt be any harder to track and save than changing them after you start association and edit and save them inside the association. the association has to record/track/save those minutes one way or the other. it "saves" all the other roster information pre-association with completely differnet player included, accessories, etc, shoes, attributes, tendencies,

      so, i believe the minutes not saving are an oversight they have yet to correct.
      Yea, I hope you're right. It really takes the fun out of the season, when every team has the same rotation. Some teams use their bench more so than other, and with the current rotation/minutes that seems impossible.

      I hate that Harden always starts and can never get six-man of the year.

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      • Eli_to_Cruz1080
        Rookie
        • Aug 2012
        • 101

        #168
        Re: Association Q and A

        I read from a person that has the game already that as of the current roster available there ar no second round players on the roster. Can this be confirmed?

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        • SwaggerCoach
          MVP
          • Oct 2011
          • 1342

          #169
          Re: Association Q and A

          Originally posted by Eli_to_Cruz1080
          I read from a person that has the game already that as of the current roster available there ar no second round players on the roster. Can this be confirmed?
          Many of them appear to be missing - but not all are out.

          Bobcats 2nd rd pick Jeff Taylor (65 OVL) is on the roster.

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          • Eli_to_Cruz1080
            Rookie
            • Aug 2012
            • 101

            #170
            Re: Association Q and A

            Originally posted by SwaggerCoach
            Many of them appear to be missing - but not all are out.

            Bobcats 2nd rd pick Jeff Taylor (65 OVL) is on the roster.
            Hopefully they have a release day update. Want to start my franchise

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            • RawCITY
              Rookie
              • Apr 2011
              • 25

              #171
              Re: Association Q and A

              I hope all the missing rookies are in the game and just locked. If they give them generated faces, that would be a travesty.

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              • Eli_to_Cruz1080
                Rookie
                • Aug 2012
                • 101

                #172
                Re: Association Q and A

                Originally posted by RawCITY
                I hope all the missing rookies are in the game and just locked. If they give them generated faces, that would be a travesty.
                Tell me about it, it takes a lot of the fun out of franchise mode.

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                • Matty Aqua
                  Pro
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 1298

                  #173
                  Re: Association Q and A

                  Originally posted by RawCITY
                  I hope all the missing rookies are in the game and just locked. If they give them generated faces, that would be a travesty.
                  Most 2nd rounders are in i think maybe 10 or so are missing,2k usually has a roster update soon after release i think most 2nd rounders will be in that update!.

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                  • RawCITY
                    Rookie
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 25

                    #174
                    Re: Association Q and A

                    Originally posted by Eli_to_Cruz1080
                    Tell me about it, it takes a lot of the fun out of franchise mode.
                    Yep. Same with those D Leauge call ups. If they update courts and new shoes, why not make those players' faces and have them be part of the downloaded updates? Instead of what they normally do, by taking the lazy route, and make a generic generated face.

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                    • jackmurfet
                      Rookie
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 101

                      #175
                      Re: Association Q and A

                      ^
                      Pistons are missing 3 players

                      English, Middleton and Kravtsov

                      I would be surprised if there was only 10 missing
                      PG: Ruby Westbrook

                      SG: Sapphire Wilkins

                      SF: Diamond Durant

                      PF: Sapphire Kemp

                      C: Dikembe Mutombo

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                      • godsgift2dagame
                        Rookie
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 242

                        #176
                        Re: Association Q and A

                        Originally posted by bamalam
                        Programming 101 graduate should be able to fix this in about 5 minutes of work.
                        Just because I've had a horrible week...

                        What an idiotic thing to say. I don't know of any bug in a production environment web service or a developed software that can be fixed in 5 minutes. Arrogant and ignorant jerks may think so, but many bugs take hours or days to find.

                        Let's be really modest and say NBA 2k13 has ~1 million lines of code. Obviously, only a small fraction is devoted to making sure saves occur properly, but before the save can be done, a lot of other things have to be checked for and asserted. Somewhere along the line, maybe a memory leak or an undeclared variable or broken logic causes fault. But a "programming 101" graduate would be lucky to find the bug in a week...let alone "5 minutes".

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                        • Blue
                          On the road again
                          • Jul 2012
                          • 838

                          #177
                          Re: Association Q and A

                          Originally posted by aquaman
                          Most 2nd rounders are in i think maybe 10 or so are missing,2k usually has a roster update soon after release i think most 2nd rounders will be in that update!.
                          Most likely it's players that didn't have contracts before the final version of the game, I know a few just recently signed, according to Real GM the non foreign players still unsigned are Hamilton, Denmon and Hummel( who I believe is going overseas)
                          Native Georgian. Adopted Texan.

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                          • qaws1234
                            Rookie
                            • Sep 2005
                            • 59

                            #178
                            Re: Association Q and A

                            Do players like Steve Nash and Jason Kidd still retire after the 1st or 2nd season like last years game? I hated that with a passion!

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                            • RocketTMac1
                              MVP
                              • Sep 2006
                              • 1864

                              #179
                              Re: Association Q and A

                              With no D-League this year I wouldn't be surprised if all the missing players stay missing this year. Where can you put them in Association now?
                              The Buzz is Back in the Queen City. Cho........I have no idea what you are going to do in this draft man.

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                              • Matty Aqua
                                Pro
                                • Oct 2009
                                • 1298

                                #180
                                Re: Association Q and A

                                Originally posted by aquaman
                                I have an easy quick question!

                                Are the 11th and 12th man on the Roster still getting put in for 1-2 minutes even tho there minutes hve been set to 0?

                                Thanks for your efforts in answering our questions
                                Edit - Sorry also could u give us some trades (Good or Bad) that have happened in your association sim experience!

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