2K taking too much away from the game??

[GisherJohn24]

Re: 2K taking too much away from the game??

If people are buying this game strictly for the legends you need to prepare yourselves to be disappointed more often. Do people really think 2k wanted to put in the 02 Kings and 77/85 Sixers without Webber and Dr.J? Legend teams are a tough thing to get 100% accurate every year due to the individual licensing of each former player. Some players may just not want to do it or simply want more cash than 2k has or is willing to spend. It's a waste of time to complain about missing legends because that is not always the sole fault of 2k. Like I've said in the past it might be time to start moving away from the legends aspect and focus on the current generation of hoopers. I like legend teams but I know they can be a pain to complete.

that's not their fault, but they could have aided the situation by not removing the ability to share exported teams on roster share. We could have put Webber back on the Kings and shared them to the world. Export team gave people endless posbilities and when they removed that after nearly a decade of offering it, is total BS and then some. Yes. People hvae a right to be mad.

[GisherJohn24]

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I agree with the general view of some of the posts i am seeing but i don't see it as dire as others. Are some legends missing from last year? Yes. But the 00-01 Sixers were added and we can edit historic team rosters offline from the start this year. So with the ability to create or download "legends" i am playing with more complete historical teams than i was at this point last year. Not saying i wouldn't like Kareem, Dr J and Webber, just saying you do gain Iverson and its pretty easy to download and insert created guys.

The rookie complaint and roster complaint in some ways is the same thing. We know they'll update those and said when. Its not like they are taking them away.

The Autosave thing does bug me. You can save various rosters if you want to test. I have to admit i have no idea if you can save an association or not separately.

The hex editing complaint to me so hard to rip them for. Its not like it was a feature, it was a lucky bonus really. I love what those guys did with the changes but Sony customers didn't have it and they lived.

They added shoe creator which i don't care about but its not like they didn't add anything to the game and only took away. They added more custom music events. Added the Sixers like i mentioned earlier. Added the Dream Team and 2012 Olympic team. Changed the controls and whatever i missed.

Overall, i just do not see the sky is falling.

you can't edit their likenesses, even the generic guys on the historical teams. you have to remove them and use a created player that you placed in a free agency, I think. But you can't edit player likenesses which is lame from the start. I should be able to use a current guy an make him look like Webber, not just change his stats.

[STLRams]

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Whats crazy after playing the game for a full day, I think my only 3 complaints about the game are the missing legends, still no online lobbies and turning off autosave. Now the autosave thing is crazy to me, fellas we need to start a petition or somehow get the devs attention to put autosave back in the game with the next patch, that one really blows my mind that we have no control over what gets saved.

[GisherJohn24]

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Whats crazy after playing the game for a full day, I think my only 3 complaints about the game are the missing legends, still no online lobbies and turning off autosave. Now the autosave thing is crazy to me, fellas we need to start a petition or somehow get the devs attention to put autosave back in the game with the next patch, that one really blows my mind that we have no control over what gets saved.

i think patches are already conceived and decided. I can only hope that we get our export teams back. I need the ability to create full team rosters and retro teams galore so people can share those online. And let you edit player likenesses for all rosters, recent or historic.

[erickonasis]

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Most of the other stuff you listed isn't that big of a deal(legends, rookies, not a huge deal at all and has to do with licensing)

But ONLY autosave in association? Are you kidding me? I thought game developers learned by now that most people HATE being forced to autosave when they don't want to. I payed for the game, i should be able to save when i please.

So far the gameplay seems very solid, and i'm liking it so far. But THAT, is crap. Why would they do that? Come on, just think would ya?

Totally unacceptable i agree...

[kjjnesb]

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Now the autosave thing is crazy to me, fellas we need to start a petition or somehow get the devs attention to put autosave back in the game with the next patch, that one really blows my mind that we have no control over what gets saved.

Absolutely I mean collecting VC does nothing for my Offline Association so why should that mode have to be a slave to Auto Save.

Hell I could turn on trade override get Lebron Dwight CP3 and Melo run the league for yrs and let the VC flow freely in Association yet for what ever reason 2K saw fit to force Auto Save.

[NINJAK2]

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The problem is its not JUST missing legends.. This game has left off tons of crap.. And with ruining hex editing and other issues we can't even fix the legend teams or create new ones, if we so wished..

I'm not saying your other complaints aren't valid. I'm talking strictly from legends perspective oj. I appreciated all the work you did last year man but unfortunately the hex editing was not an official 2k tool that they were supporting so it not working in 2k13 is not exactly something they need to guarantee. It sucks but it is what it is.

[dkrause1971]

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you can't edit their likenesses, even the generic guys on the historical teams. you have to remove them and use a created player that you placed in a free agency, I think. But you can't edit player likenesses which is lame from the start. I should be able to use a current guy an make him look like Webber, not just change his stats.

Or they could have just removed the whole historical team idea (or those teams with those guys). Guys like me might not have bought the game without them, but its not like they have competition for the regular NBA fan who buys the game. I guess i don't see removing three greats (while adding one) as the end of the world when before the last two years i was stuck with all decade teams that i didn't care about.

I am not against your comment, just glad i have the option to add "historicals" from the start and get the teams we do have.

[SA1NT401]

Easy fix is to just create another assoc. file....

[VDusen04]

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Or they could have just removed the whole historical team idea (or those teams with those guys). Guys like me might not have bought the game without them, but its not like they have competition for the regular NBA fan who buys the game. I guess i don't see removing three greats (while adding one) as the end of the world when before the last two years i was stuck with all decade teams that i didn't care about.

I am not against your comment, just glad i have the option to add "historicals" from the start and get the teams we do have.

Yep, regarding legends I'm actually just happy to have what we do. 2K could have been jerks and removed the 2002 Kings, '87 Lakers, '85 Sixers, '77 Sixers, and '71 Bucks just because three stars refused to sign. Removing each of those teams would have been at least 40 more classic players deleted. With them keeping each of those teams on board, we can fill the blanks with created players at least. I've already run with the 2002 Kings (with a created Webber) and I didn't really notice a lot of difference from last year (especially since his ratings and signatures are identical to 2K12's).

On the flip side, I find forcing gamers to use auto-save to be a complete and utter debacle. It's terribly frustrating and as others have said, it very much complicates a lot of the features and abilities that normally make video games great. Personally, it has me working around 2K13 as if I'm walking on egg shells. I'm on ultra-alert as to every step I take, knowing whatever I do might end up getting saved over something I didn't want saved over.

Furthermore, autosave in 2K has historically seemed to be terribly unstable. Is it not just a matter of time before each of us hit a point where we're disconnected during an autosave and our files corrupt, thus deleting everything we've built upon?

Thankfully, I think there are some effective steps that can be taken to help side step the auto-save issue, but I'd stop short of calling them solutions. It just feels as if we've lost a lot of the freedom usually associated with playing video games.

[green225]

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how bout the fact that controls are totally ruined(and no crew, blacktop blows)

[UnbelievablyRAW]

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Wait, we can't upload sliders anymore? So that entire part of the 2k community dedicated to making the game sim is now gone? Or am I reading wrong

[Semipro91]

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Wait what the hell I haven't tried Association yet but Christ 2k now we'll have to wait 2 months for them to get a damn patch up to fix the Auto save. All because of this stupid VC system I bet.

Ok for everyone that is complaining about AutoSave try this;

1. Sign into your profile and boot the game.
2. At the Main Menu Disconnect fro Xbox Live.
3. Create your Offline Association. You will get a prompt about it Being Offline. This will make it so you DONT earn VC AT ALL while in this Association.
4. At this point the Auto Save Option is turned OFF in the association. (It cant be turned back on)
5. Also at this point you can sign back into Xbox Live. (This association will forever be an OFFLINE one that WILL NEVER earn you VC)

[dubz]

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So I'm kind of dumb about autosave. Why is it a bad thing to not be able to turn it off?

[Jukeman]

Auto save is by far my most hated feature ever put in NBA2K.

I love it in other games tho. (Non sports)


-Juke