Crazy momentum swing....lid on the basket

[Illuminatos]

Re: Crazy momentum swing....lid on the basket

The game shouldn't force their artificial momentum crap down our throats.

We should be able to go on runs because we play smart basketball not because the game says we should. I can make my own momentum.

[jaateloauto]

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The game shouldn't force their artificial momentum crap down our throats.

We should be able to go on runs because we play smart basketball not because the game says we should. I can make my own momentum.

Basketball is often a game of runs. Using them to your advantage is part of playing smart basketball.

You got 8 timeouts. Use. Them.

It's not an unfair game breaking advantage unlike in EA NHL where you can only call one timeout during a game to ease the momentum and in that game if you're on the receiving end of a momentum swing (which will last for the whole period) even short simple passes won't connect, hits won't connect, all your shots completely miss everything, refs will look the other way, your goalie starts to imitate a vacuum cleaner and you can't even pick up loose pucks because the game decides the opponent is more deserving of it. (Thankfully it's been turned way down in the latest game.)

[ekferio]

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Momentum shifts happen when a team gets stops. But imo that's not how it works in this game. You just miss a bunch of wide open shots when you start blowing out the other team. And this year, they removed the clutch factor option too.

[jayman504]

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Try watching a real-life Raptors game. You'd swear it was rigged.

EXACTLY...Kobe's 81 pt game is a prime example. People forget that the Raptors were up by 15 @ Half totally dominating LA, second half they got destroyed ...look it up http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=260122013

[Pared]

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Good for you. I played this game long enough to know patterns with shooting.

Then you should learn how to get around it. As others somehow know how to put the ball in the basket and this isn't a problem for them, perhaps you should try a different approach.

[Sundown]

Momentous is a lot better this year than last year. Last year on all-star, you can't complete simple passes and make point blank open layups and it becomes very difficult even for your good players to right the ship.

Still, it's a bit too pronounced. The team on the run is almost unable to miss an open shot here or there, and the team on the other end is almost unable to make them at times. I know this happens in the NBA but it happens too predictably in game. It also makes it extraordinarily hard to make a run back against the CPU, where as teams come back much more often in real games. The CPU doesn't seem to have as much trouble coming back however. In fact, it's almost inevitable.

If momentum was toned down to be a bit more organic and erratic, with a few more missed shots when on a run and a few more made shots on the other end of one, it would be just about right.

[jayman504]

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And like a previous poster noted or OP it works BOTH WAYS. CPU was stomping all over me thru 3 quarters..in the 4th I had a massive block with KG that seemed to turn the game in my favor...shots started dropping and my team picked up the defensive intensity...

[jonesha2000]

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When I did the original post I was mainly speaking of online ranked games. Like I said at some point you may as well just lay the controller down. I just played a game and it just felt really cheap. Situations where I go for a lay up and get those stupid contact bump animations but my opponent is going up strong for layups and the contact is not bothering him. Situations where there is a loose ball and my team literally stands around and watch the ball instead of going for the ball but his team has 3 people running towards the ball. That is the type of cheap logic I'm talking about. Sometime the loose ball is right at your players feet and he will stand there as if nothing is going on.

I have friends that I play online but they are not available all the time so I have to play online ranked games at times. I don't understand why it is so hard to make the gameplay balanced.

[thale84j]

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Momentum is a huge part in every basketball game.

Although I find it extremely overdone in 2k

[demfl]

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Then you should learn how to get around it. As others somehow know how to put the ball in the basket and this isn't a problem for them, perhaps you should try a different approach.

You have it the wrong way, I usually benefit from it because I can play the game and it causes the other player to basically lose by a ton. This is what momentum did to Stephen Curry with me using him in Myteam mode. Notice how I can't miss with him because of my runs. 8-12 from 3 pt land lol

[ksuttonjr76]

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I don't mind momentum when it's USER created (online games). If the USER actually made some offensive/defensive adjustments, then he has every right to his momentum. At that point, it's on the other USER to make changes to THEIR approach to counter the momentum. NBA 2K11 done this perfectly, IMHO. If I was up 10+ points, but my opponent continued with the same losing strategy then I won by 20+ points.

IMHO, NBA 2K12 was horrible with creating momentum, but NBA 2K13 doesn't seem too bad to me. In NBA 2K12, you saw, beyond a question of doubt, clear signs of momentum swings (unrealistic rebounding, unnatural/unforced turnovers, wide-open shooting percentages dropping dramatically, etc). However, my focus for NBA 2K13 has mostly been on the lack of defense in online games. In my eyes, momentum is irrelevant when you can score at will already. How much more of a boost are you getting from momentum when the current online settings are already offensive friendly?

[Joobieo]

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I've always seen this shift this year with momentum my question is this is it actually apart of the game or do we just thnk it's there ? Is there document proof of it actually being apart of the game .

[demfl]

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I let my opponent go on many runs purposely during one game and Curry went 0-12, I made sure he shot only when the run was beginning. The funny part was after Curry missed a completely wide open, perfect release the commentary said they seem to have no momentum. I also noticed when the other team is on a run a routine pass with magically float pass your man out of bounds. This shouldn't be.

Before you try to counter, read my earlier post, I'm usually on the positive end of momentum and that's why I posted a picture in this thread showing how I shot 8-12 with Curry from 3pt land because my team had momentum; my point is momentum is overpowered and does put a lid on the basket.

It happens in the nba, of course but we're playing rank matches, myteam etc, you shouldn't lose a game because the CPU sets you up to fail. I don't mind the team on the run getting a boost but the other teams shouldn't magically fumble the ball or completely miss a easy pass or miss back 2 back dunks or wide open shots to mimic something, its does a terrible job.

[Pared]

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You have it the wrong way, I usually benefit from it because I can play the game and it causes the other player to basically lose by a ton. This is what momentum did to Stephen Curry with me using him in Myteam mode. Notice how I can't miss with him because of my runs. 8-12 from 3 pt land lol

Then your opponent needs to heed my advice.

Melo went what - 6-7 from 3pt range just last friday as the Knicks got trounced. There is nothing odd about what you're pointing out.

[ntnme2lose]

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Then your opponent needs to heed my advice.

Melo went what - 6-7 from 3pt range just last friday as the Knicks got trounced. There is nothing odd about what you're pointing out.

Thats not what he is saying. He's saying that you can do that EVERY game with the right person. Melo doesn't do that every game, Curry doesnt do that every game and Jamal Crawford DEFINITELY doesn't do that every game. In this game, if you have an 80+ 3 point shot then you can pretty much make almost 75% of your 3 point attempts every game.

This is exaggerated when the momentum runs kick in. People that play with the heat go on their momentum run and routinely pull up for three with Allen and Lewis on fast breaks after you miss wide open shots on the other end. It happens like clockwork.

Do these momentum runs happen in real life? Absolutely. Do they happen to the extent they do in the game EVERY GAME? HELL NO! 10-0 or 14-2 runs normally happen every couple of games for any particular team in the NBA. Not every single game like they do in 2k13. I actually wouldn't mind it every once in a while but when it happens literally every other quarter then there's a problem.

You know when runs normally happen in real life? When one team makes an adjustment that the other team just cant figure out/counter or when a team puts its bench in the game. It doesn't happen if they get two straight dunks. It doesn't happen when one team misses two straight shots. Momentum should reward players that make adjustments and run the right lineups. Not just dumb luck of getting two dunks in a row with star players. It doesn't happen like that in real life.