CPU Offense question

[sword1986]

I notice that no one has really brought this up, so I am guessing it is not a big concern to the User vs CPU game play?

When the CPU rebounds the ball after a missed shot, it goes on a fast break (100% of the time). They do not run any plays, they just immediately attack the basket. It works also with the user. After a rebound, I will run up court and hit a 3 pointer easily with MarShon Brooks. I was 3/3.

I think this is a programming error, a code that signals the CPU to fast break after the rebound instead of slowing everything down and running plays.

Try this yourself. When you are playing the CPU on any difficulty, intentionally miss a shot. Watch as the CPU Point Guard sprints up court to attack the basket. This will happen every time.

[Gosens6]

Re: CPU Offense question

Doesn't happen to me at all. Maybe it depends against the teams you are playing against. Are they fast break teams? Look at their coaching settings.

I just got done with playoff series against the Spurs and Lakers, and they ran plays like it was nobodies business. Whether it was off a rebound or an inbounds.

I'm wondering why 100% of the time you're seeing teams fast break? That's weird.

[michael785]

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same thing with me it EVERY time i play on all star difficulty. the only thing i was thinking is that if u tell ur team to O Rebound then all of them crash the glass and no one gets back.

[sword1986]

Re: CPU Offense question

This occurs on every difficulty. I am playing the Pistons right now - not once have they tried to run a play after rebounding the ball. Stuckey or Knight just run up court and try to attack the basket. Most of the time successful. It seems the offense gets a boost after rebounds. A lot of my shots are automatic off of rebounds. C.J. Watson and MarShon Brooks rain 3s with ease, and I have my 3PT shot success slider at 45.

Very arcade if you ask me ...

I might have to actually make a video or something about this, because NBA 2K is the only game I play and I love basketball.

[michael785]

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try playing slower i guess if u take quick shots (like a quick 3) then yes it does happen. it only happens to me on all star. i wish there was a way to tell ur team to get back

[sword1986]

Re: CPU Offense question

This issue also happens on Rookie and Pro. As soon as you miss a shot, the CPU will rebound and go on a fast break. They wont slow down and walk up the court and run a play. The CPU goes on a rampage attacking the paint. Try playing the Clippers. Blake Griffin goes on dunking havoc.

Here is a scenario:

Joe Johnson shoots, misses ... DeAndre Jordan rebounds and passes to Chauncey Billups. Billups will sprint up the court full speed, aswell as the CPU team mate; offense appears to be in a fast break mode. Chauncey will attack the basket, if he fails, a bigman will come in and get the offensive board, usually Blake or DeAndre. Standing dunk or inside shot that goes in 90% of the time. I say 90%, because there have been instances where they actually miss.

This bug also works with the User. If you catch a defensive rebound, sprint up court and not run any plays. If you are wide open - SPLASH. MarShon Brooks hit every single three point shot when he had a good look.

This makes the game scripted in a sense and the reason why the game has high FG%. The CPU only makes shots in people's faces following a defensive rebound. If you make a basket, the CPU will inbound, and physics matter. If you play good defense, it matters. The main problem is, when you miss a shot and the CPU rebounds - nothing matters. You need to protect that paint at all costs because the CPU's first priority will get the paint.

Go try this. Intentionally miss shots and watch how the CPU goes on a fast break following a rebound.

[manustyle90]

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i've tried it all to solve this : run plays to 100, game tempo to 0, fastbreak to 0, cpu speed and quickness to 0, user hustle to 100...but the issue is still there.
It looks like there is a script that says to the cpu that after a defensive rebound there is a fastbreak opportunity and the court is clear, even if it is not..and they treat the defense like obstacles without playing realistic basketball. They are like flies trying to get out of a closed window...AND THIS IS SIM BASKETBALL?

[Illustrator76]

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This is a huge issue guys and I am seeing this as well. I have tried everything under the sun to fix it and nothing works. The CPU is simply programmed to go into "hyper score mode" after they rebound every missed shot by the User's team.

[roadman]

Re: CPU Offense question

Yeah, thanks for bringing this up, Sword, I thought I was the only one until I saw a thread in the slider forum with Illy and company.

It's fast break upon fast break and it really drives up the PIP besides the offensive rebounding.

It's been a track meet for me, so far.

[manustyle90]

Re: CPU Offense question

2k tested the game's cpu by playing user vs user, we can't blame them afterall

[sword1986]

Re: CPU Offense question

Hoping a patch can address it ... in the mean time, I guess we all have to play on the Casual game style setting, because the way the CPU is playing on offense is not Simulation. It has a more arcade feeling.


My theory ... (Read Spoiler)

Spoiler

Mike Wang still works for EA Sports. 2K Sports and the 2K Fan Base have been deceived. I think Mike is still pro-EA and is being paid 'under the table' to destroy NBA 2K. We were thrown some publicity stunt that they were going in another direction - not the case, I assume. Look what has happened since NBA 2K11. NBA 2K12 and now NBA 2K13! How was it that NBA 2K11 was close to simulation than 2K12 and 2K13. Coincidence?

[hewastheirfriend]

Re: CPU Offense question

don't have most of you're players go for a rebound... when you crash the boards make sure you have good offensive rebounders on you're team because if you don't you make yourself weak on transition D

miss a shot, get atleast 3 players back on defense on the other side of the court... some gamers have atleast 4 players going for rebounds without realizing it, and If one of my players get the rebound Im usually chucking fast breaks lol

if you're slowing the game down and like to milk the clock, transition D is way more important than rebounding

if you're a run n gun team full of shooters and athletic players then crashing the board is more important because you're running like them and if you're more athletic you'll tire them out by the 3rd quarter

it's no error its just the system you're probably running

[youngdutch13]

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Yup, I'm about to spam tweet Ronnie2k because I've been waiting for a sim basketball game and this game isn't sim. Every team in this game just runs like a maniac and tries to score in the paint. No strategy whatsoever.

I guess I just have to accept that this is just a video game and i'll have to deal with it.

[manustyle90]

Re: CPU Offense question

don't have most of you're players go for a rebound... when you crash the boards make sure you have good offensive rebounders on you're team because if you don't you make yourself weak on transition D

miss a shot, get atleast 3 players back on defense on the other side of the court... some gamers have atleast 4 players going for rebounds without realizing it, and If one of my players get the rebound Im usually chucking fast breaks lol

if you're slowing the game down and like to milk the clock, transition D is way more important than rebounding

if you're a run n gun team full of shooters and athletic players then crashing the board is more important because you're running like them and if you're more athletic you'll tire them out by the 3rd quarter

it's no error its just the system you're probably running

some of you just don't get it. tell me how many times you see the cpu walking up the court after a user miss shot, stopping at the 3 and running a play without taking a shot in the first 10 seconds

[youngdutch13]

Re: CPU Offense question

Hoping a patch can address it ... in the mean time, I guess we all have to play on the Casual game style setting, because the way the CPU is playing on offense is not Simulation. It has a more arcade feeling.


My theory ... (Read Spoiler)

Spoiler

Mike Wang still works for EA Sports. 2K Sports and the 2K Fan Base have been deceived. I think Mike is still pro-EA and is being paid 'under the table' to destroy NBA 2K. We were thrown some publicity stunt that they were going in another direction - not the case, I assume. Look what has happened since NBA 2K11. NBA 2K12 and now NBA 2K13! How was it that NBA 2K11 was close to simulation than 2K12 and 2K13. Coincidence?

I'm pretty sure Mike Wang wasn't with 2k during 2k12 and was working with EA for elite that's why 2k12 sucked so bad. They're just trying to get back on track with 2k13 and I think they're doing okay. There are gameplay issues but to say Mike Wang is "working" for EA makes me laugh.