Online Quick Ranked is a problem

[EarvGotti]

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Just played a game against a guy who had the Lakers, I had Pacers. It was terrible. Dwight grabbed every rebound and kobe was dunking in the paint untouched. Lead passes were running through the D like water. I edged out the win by 2 pts, but boy that wasnt fun at all.

[DaBlackProdigy]

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Just played a game against a guy who had the Lakers, I had Pacers. It was terrible. Dwight grabbed every rebound and kobe was dunking in the paint untouched. Lead passes were running through the D like water. I edged out the win by 2 pts, but boy that wasnt fun at all.

In real life lakers would of won that game by like 10 points..

[Optik]

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2k12 people complained it was a bit tough to score in the paint and passing sucked, but it took skill most times to beat opponents. You had to take smarter shots and make better decisions. overall 2k13 is far better than 12 but they really need to patch and fix the online issues cause it is bad to a point were online gamers will actually stop playing this game if it remains the same.

This is pure revisionist history. Online in 2K12 is the same as online in 2K13 and all previous 2K's recently: no need to run plays, recklessness is rewarded rather than punished. 2K online hasn't required skill to win in the past, and it won't now or in the near future. In 2K12, you didn't need to "pick your spots" and make "better decisions" to win. That is the typical mantra of a shill or someone with a short memory. All you had to do was take LeBron and use him as a battering ram until the defense gave way, or he nailed contested shot after contested shot. All you had to do was turbo spam with Westbrook.

It seems every year, right around release time, that the majority of OS is taken over by what I like to call "2K Delusion Syndrome", where people claim that for the first time ever, people will be rewarded for playing "real" basketball. It's a old canard that has absolutely no basis in historical evidence. We are constantly told to "forget the demo" or that the retail makes the demo look like a thousand-year old piece of gutter trash. Well guess what? People are complaining that the defense stinks on the retail version. They weren't saying ANY of that during the demo, because the defense actually WORKED.

[EarvGotti]

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In real life lakers would of won that game by like 10 points..

But the guy wasnt playing real basketball....

He just threw passes to the paint, and tried to drive with Kobe. I played zone on him which is why I won. People playing like that better not be complaining about zone online, because if they played real ball we wouldnt have to run zone.

[robny23]

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It definitely took more skill to win in 2k12 than it does now on 2k13 in terms of online. Although 2k12 had a bunch of glitches and bad animatons, the only real uncontrollable cheese was spin dunking, hopstep pump fake, or manual cutting with jabstepping in the paint. You probably didnt even know about that one.

I am a strict online player, i usually only play for money on virgin or gamersaloon, so i am very critical on how online mode plays. 2k pretty much address all the previous years cheese like the ones i listed above, oh yeah, and standing alleyoops as well. I enjoy the sim games, but when playing for money, you have to resort to cheeses if opponent chesses, so i pretty much know all the legitimate glitches and cheeses.

It was much harder to score in 2k12 especially for a non-skilled player. Even when using LBJ, Durant, etc... you would easily lose trying to abuse just one player. Many animations were horrible, but took much more skill to score in the paint or hit 3's compare to how it is now on 13. 2k13 offensive rebounds are far worst onlne than 2k12 was and 2k12 was pretty bad. 2k13 did fix the tip dunk frequency, but offensive rebounds in general are worst.

I know there will always be minor glitches and issues, and when some are fixed, there wil be new ones since its a completely new game. AND please don't come and say I suck or I don't know how to adjust. Unless you are an NBA player yourself, I know just as much about BBAll as anyone here would claim they do. I am not one of those guys that criticize others or acts like a know it all. I have been around bball my whole childhood to early adult life and always a constant fan of bball on every level.

I don't expect a video game to be able to mimic real life 100%, and I appreciate and think 2k13 is the best basketball game ever produced. Most realistic in a veiwing standpoint. But I do think success at a video game should involve skill, and success at a baseketball video game should involve skill and bball knowledge. I know how to win in 2k bball games. I have over 1200 games won online in 2k12 with only 200 or so loses, i am 44-4 so far in 2k 13.... you can check my gamersaloon ID or virgin gaming ID.. and my win record is all high percentage.

But I am not boasting about myself, I am just pointing out that 2k13 online as of now reqiures little skill and certain issues need to be adjusted in order for the game to be a great online experience. I play enough of these games online to understand what real issues are, things that cannot be countered no matter what are identified as glitches and issues. 3's need to be tones down, especially contested ones. Points in the paint need to be harder, long passes should be toned down on success rate, and offensive rebounds. Players should not hit at such a high percentage rate while being heavily defended. I find it too easy for myself already, owning the game for less than a week. Hopefully 2k addresses all these issues that seem like the majority of online players are experiencing.

[ManiacMatt1782]

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Any "ranked" game should be played on the most realistic and challenging settings regardless of sport. If your number 1 on the leaderboards it should be due to skill, both strategically and on the sticks.

[robny23]

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100% agreed. Not sure why online games are not on HOF setting, simulation, and fix with realistic sliders. so far 2k13 online seems like its catering to non skill player or players who have no interest in learning and getting better, rather just allow most players who can press buttons and move a stick to be semi successfull. Patch those minor issues and 2k13 will be the best bball game up to date.

[chris11sg]

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Any "ranked" game should be played on the most realistic and challenging settings regardless of sport. If your number 1 on the leaderboards it should be due to skill, both strategically and on the sticks.

100% agreed. Not sure why online games are not on HOF setting, simulation, and fix with realistic sliders. so far 2k13 online seems like its catering to non skill player or players who have no interest in learning and getting better, rather just allow most players who can press buttons and move a stick to be semi successfull. Patch those minor issues and 2k13 will be the best bball game up to date.

This!!!!!^^^^ everything you guys said are my thoughts exactly. What's the likelihood we can petition 2k for this???

[sreckless]

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3's need to be toned down, especially contested ones. Points in the paint need to be harder, long passes should be toned down on success rate, and offensive rebounds.

This is exactly the same list I have after playing for a week. Great analysis. It still takes skill to win, IMO, but I definitely agree that 2k12 in its final form was a more realistic version of basketball.

I'm optimistic that they'll fix most of it. We're coming off a game in 2k12 that was patched multiple times to balance these kinds of issues, so there's a sharp contrast right now from that product to a fresh game that hasn't gone through that process.

I'm hopeful they will address it, because they have clearly put a lot of work into this game with the other improvements.

[BCBalla]

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Go to your locker.

As far as the topic, online is just awful. Too easy to cheese, quick match is just a horrible experience.

I skipped 2k12 and I did not know you cannot play unranked games with random people.

For there not to be lobbies and being unable to play unranked games besides your friends is pathetic, 2K.

If there was unranked games with randoms, atleast we would be able to see what the cheese artists run, without ruining your record, not that your record means anything.

[UConcord11]

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My biggest fear is that 2K will patch these problems and the exact opposite will occur. no 3s will fall, limited offensive boards...right now things are just ridiculous.

I agree that online quick ranked should be sim HOF. It's ranked for crying out loud. I thought I was going to be playing alot of online basketball this year. But the vs CPU experience is looking really good

[Mr_truthman.com]

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Its not a win loss issue. The gameplay is arcade basketball. Some people prefer to play games that have some sort of relation to real life nba basketball.

Quick match is suppose to be unrealistic, hince the 5min qtrs and what is probably a default pro setting.

[JazzMan]

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Played a guy who had the Lakers and I was the Jazz, and this guy just might have been the worst cheeser I've ever seen. He scored 50 of his 56 points with Kobe, and I could not stop him.

He continuously drove to the paint, and he constantly tried to cherry pick with Kobe. The only way I could slow him down was when I put Millsap at the 3 with Favors and Jefferson at the 4 and 5, and went in the 2-3. If he was actually smart, he would've kicked it out to Nash for multiple 3's and wrecked me, but he didn't for some reason. I ended up winning in O.T., but this quick ranked is very frustrating.

It seems that the only people I play are guys who chuck it down the court and EVERYTIME it's a successful pass. Way too many full-court passes that actually work. A guy I played was Brooklyn and whenever he inbounded the ball to D-Will, he threw it downcourt to Joe Johnson and drove in and either scored or got fouled.

And don't even get me started on the points in the paint. There's way too many guys hitting reverse layups after an offensive rebound and it's impossible to defend in the paint.

I love 2k13 but quick ranked is just terrible. I'm 7-4 and I'm not even sure if I want to play another ranked game any time soon, and I probably won't now that I'm getting into an OA draft...

[Illuminatos]

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Lord Jesus get rid of that unblockable dunk animation when centers are under the rim.

My God I played the Nets today and this fool kept lead passing to Humphries and Lopez under the rim. I'd put my hands up put yet he'd still dunk it as if I wasn't there.

[UnbelievablyRAW]

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I've only played 2 QR games and about 8 MyTeam games and from my experiences, the only bad thing about the game online is the perimeter defense. Its pretty difficult to stop a good ballhandler (not great) from diving easily because the contact animations don't kick in until after the crossover animations are done. People just shutter step and stuff till they get near the paint and pass it off to the center to try to get easy lay ins or kick it back out for 3.

Interior defense is much better this year. Its easy to strip centers in the paint, and contesting someone face up this year results in them missing 95% of the time. Fast breaks can be stopped by making sure that after shot attempts you always change to a guard and start sprinting backcourt. Most likely only one player from the other team will be leaking out for a fastbreak opportunity so you'll be there to slow him down until teammates can join you.

Haven't lost a game as of yet