Stop Buying Virtual Currency, please

[Ramboooo]

Re: Stop Buying Virtual Currency, please

You clearly do not get the problem.

ok then what'd I miss

[JasonWilliams55]

Re: Stop Buying Virtual Currency, please

My biggest beef with VC is that they force players to play against players who buy VC for their teams. Its plain unfair, atleast give us an option to search for other players who don't buy VC to stack their teams.

As for VC itself, it is what it is, a cash grab. But you don't have to purchase it to play, you can earn it in game.

I don't mind VC in principle, I have a problem with them giving the option to buy it. Well not necessarily the option to buy, but more in the sense that they allow peeps who boost their squads by buying VC to play against non boosters.

Please 2k keep payers separate from non payers of VC.

[Boilerbuzz]

Re: Stop Buying Virtual Currency, please

Hahaha look at you! I got you upset!!! My comment about you re: the guy who post without thinking was your own comment to some user. I think your actually comment was telling someone their comment was brainless one or something like that. Tasting your own medicine sux huh? Lol you behave respectfully you will get some respectful treatment... I don't have to interact with you to know you are rude. Maybe we have? Hahaha you piss off many people so I'm sure it's hard for you to track. I'm no vet so I don't know neither. Lol Funny world we live in. I pissed off an pisser LOL

You keep thinking that kid. Doesn't change anything. If you need to come at me, there's a PM function to continue it. I'm not going to hijack this discussion to put you in your place. I've made my position clear, and that's it.

[MrBigShot1]

Re: Stop Buying Virtual Currency, please

You clearly do not get the problem.

Who's forcing you into it? How about play the game longer than a week. I mean you're saying it's not a feasible method to do it the old fashioned way but that's because you're expecting to have everything available now instead of realizing "hey, I'm gonna be playing this game all year so there'll be plenty of time to rack up VC."

Yup. It's kind of a hit or miss thing unfortunately with people here. 2k doesn't use a 1to1 scale for dollar to VC because it feels easier to accept spending 3000 VC than it is to spend a real life dollar. Their business strategy is too make things more expensive and earnings far less than 2k12/2k11 so that people will be encouraged and pretty much forced to pay real money for VC to get enough skill points to earn enough VC to enjoy the game by upgrading their player, accessorizing and picking up superstars in MyTeam.

That "play the game for longer than (x time)" argument and the whole "stop complain about it, it's here to stay" are just plain stupid. If your going to argue at least use some original thought..at least Boilerbuzz's arguments are reasonable...btw I did not say anywhere in my post that I expect everything at once.

Playing the game for longer than a week will not change anything I posted....not the inflated prices, and not the terrible earnings. Why should I/We accept something the way it is when we payed full price for the game just like everybody else? You shouldn't/don't have to accept things just because "that's the way it is".

[ILLSmak]

Re: Stop Buying Virtual Currency, please

You are silly. If I'm an offline player why should I get Internet connection? Go on. Keep uttering your fail logic.

Why is it irrelevant that we are discussing offline users and how current VC system affects them? Wasn't my player always been offline game mode and it still is? Now 2K incorporated online feature to it but this function used to be accessible via offline edit mode last year. Do you now see how it is relevant to discuss online/offline thing? If you still can't then there is serious problem with your grasp of VC implementation. You really should stop getting involved in this thread. What a waste of time you are..

Also you are just so busy trying to defend your position but actually exposing more weak points in your argument. Sometimes you can't be right all the time. Stop being stubborn. None of your failed analogy works against my valid points. I won this argument and you know it.

haha, you're the one trying to make it an offline online issue. Since myplayer is NOW an online mode and the topic of discussion is the distribution of virtual currency, talking about how it used to be offline means nothing.

Why should you get an internet connection? Because, as you see with myplayer, games are moving towards internet extras. As they should...

Your beef with myplayer has nothing to do with the value of VC vs time spent playing.

Edit: And at some point in your life, you will realize that no one 'wins' arguments. The idea of human interaction is to discuss and understand, to LEARN and adapt. The only people who sit around talking about winning arguments are the ones who parrot the same things and deliberately misunderstand replies.

-Smak

[Ramboooo]

Re: Stop Buying Virtual Currency, please

Playing the game for longer than a week will not change anything I posted....not the inflated prices, and not the terrible earnings.

But the question is is it relative to a realistic NBA scale or a My Player playing in the NBA, or is it relative to us the gamers. I'm thinking the latter. You can earn VC in other modes and carry it over to other modes, so you gotta think about that to. I played a quickmatch online and then used the VC to build up My Player. What I'm saying is I think yall are overreacting because when you think about it, My Team is like an add-on mode that no one even cared about and accessories are fluff too, and 2K does give you options. If you want to do it the old fashion way that IS feasible if you're not all about instant-gratification. And if you don't have the time or patience, they give you a paying option. They're a business just like everyone else and if this VC system helps pay for better servers then so be it. I just think people are never happy. We have no cheaters, better servers, and a real incentive (how many "my player is getting boring" threads were there?) to play My Player, and yall ain't satisfied. I would be more inclined to agree with you if Crew mode was in the game because that is something people want to play asap with powered up players. But my player / my career is SUPPOSED to be a progression and so what if the scale is a bit off. It's far from a game-killer and it actually give you way more incentive to play the mode.

[MrBigShot1]

Re: Stop Buying Virtual Currency, please

But the question is is it relative to a realistic NBA scale or a My Player playing in the NBA, or is it relative to us the gamers. I'm thinking the latter. You can earn VC in other modes and carry it over to other modes, so you gotta think about that to. I played a quickmatch online and then used the VC to build up My Player. What I'm saying is I think yall are overreacting because when you think about it, My Team is like an add-on mode that no one even cared about and accessories are fluff too, and 2K does give you options. If you want to do it the old fashion way that IS feasible if you're not all about instant-gratification. And if you don't have the time or patience, they give you a paying option. They're a business just like everyone else and if this VC system helps pay for better servers then so be it. I just think people are never happy. We have no cheaters, better servers, and a real incentive (how many "my player is getting boring" threads were there?) to play My Player, and yall ain't satisfied. I would be more inclined to agree with you if Crew mode was in the game because that is something people want to play asap with powered up players. But my player / my career is SUPPOSED to be a progression and so what if the scale is a bit off. It's far from a game-killer and it actually give you way more incentive to play the mode.

Fair enough. I give up on the bigger picture, I am probably just going to use old gift cards that are just rotting around and grind it out. The point of the game is to have fun after all.

[sword1986]

Re: Stop Buying Virtual Currency, please

What about in game saves? Say I go to Play Now, play a game up until the 4th quarter, save it right before the final minute. And I continuously keep loading that in game save, will I earn VC every time?

[theone24]

Re: Stop Buying Virtual Currency, please

Like they said, you are supposed to have something to work for and if that makes you return your game, I don't know what to say.

Last thing I'll say is these things have value in the game and to the gamer more than they would for an NBA player. Think of it more as a benz for the game because it's a status symbol.

-Smak

Let me get this out of the way right now: I created an account specifically to respond to this thread. I cannot believe the amount of people defending this shameless money grab.

I am not a huge gamer. I used to be when I was young and had the time, but I no longer do. I went through a 4-5 year period of not playing any video games, and 2k11 is the reason I even picked up a controller again. 2k is the game I play; I don't have time for anything beyond that (I make time for this because I am a basketball nut).

Having said that, I am just downright pissed off at this trend when it comes to console games. When you PURCHASE A PRODUCT you should be free to use that product how you see fit. As many previous posters have already pointed out, this is different than a company offering extra content such as maps, songs, etc. to enhance a game that may have lost its replay-ability. This is a bait and switch if I've ever seen one. 2k should be ashamed. To completely lock off content that is IN THE GAME, ON THE FRIGGIN DISK and virtually force consumers to pay money for that content beyond the sticker price...that is a racket if I've ever seen one. These were features that were readily available in previous iterations, and to lock them off in this way is false advertising any way you slice it.

I don't play online. I play with my close friends when we find a quick moment from our studies/jobs. To FORCE users to integrate their game experience with an online nickle-and-diming scheme is bull **** from a consumer's point of view. We already purchased the product, and once we fork over that $59.99 (plus tax in my case) we should be able to use that product how we see fit. The fact that you can't use star players in Blacktop mode out of the box when it was in the price of admission in previous iterations (*I know it was not in 2k12 so please don't try to whip that piece of information out) is just ridiculous. The situation is much worse for users who have enjoyed MyPlayer, etc. in the past; now 2k has basically convinced these users to make a $60 investment up-front based on the company's reputation and credibility, without being forthright about the fact that in order to get an experience comparable to 2k11/2k12, they will need to invest more money into the game. (*I'm not even going to address the "just play for VC" argument, take 2 seconds to look at the prices of these accessories/attributes in relation to the rate you can possibly earn them. The prices on these accessories might make sense if the US currency crashes and we experience hyperinflation. Until then, not so much.)

For all of you that say we should be silent: Do you really think that the 2k dev's do not take the time to read these message boards to find out what their most devoted fans think of the direction they've taken the game? This is 2012; business is about marketing as effectively as possible, and companies do as much as they can to gauge consumer satisfaction with their products. A combination of people bitching their hearts out online (and abstaining with their wallets from this VC crap) can absolutely impact what 2k does in the future. So please everyone, listen to the OP. Don't put up with this. Don't support the VC system if you would like video games to continue to offer an experience that does not involve companies reaching into your wallet after you've already forked over the listed price for a game.

Oh, and smack: You're a *******.

/rant.


Peace

[Knickerbocker]

Re: Stop Buying Virtual Currency, please

Hello, of course it is entirely up to each individual how he or she spends their money, but for the sake of us all and the future of NBA2k, I must plead.

Please, please stop paying for virtual currency with real currency. I know it's tempting, you want your player to improve and you want to buy accessories, but is it really worth it? These same accessories have been offered for free within player creation for years. Now we have a virtual currency that we can either earn through playing the game or we can inexplicably pay them more money than the $60 we've each thrown at them. The choice should be obvious, but I've seen numerous people claim to have purchased virtual currency to be used on virtual (re: NOT REAL) products to supplement our game.

I don't mean to condemn 2ksports or Visual Concepts or whoever for implementing the feature. They want more money, they're a relatively large business, that's the role they've embraced. Fine. But why do we continue to pledge our support? At least they give us the option to earn the virtual currency through play, but it's clear that by making accessories so expensive and rewarding virtual currency so stingily (specifically in MyCareer mode, where it's most valuable) that they're trying to guide players into unloading additional actual money.

It's a good business strategy and one that appears to be working, but if we want - and I think we do - future iterations to not include such cash-grabbing practices (especially on content that we've already had at our fingertip), it's crucial to not open our wallets. If they don't make the virtual currency system a bit more balanced with patches, well that kinda stinks, but at least we're not encouraging them to continue.

What corporation are you aware of that scraps an idea that gives them extra cash? By supporting this, it's only going to get worse from here. I really enjoy this game and am happy to support its creators, but at some point we have to draw the line.

Thanks

You are several years late with the plead. EA has been doing it with their sport title for years and it really is where the gaming bizz is headed. Most people that buy the currency probably don't even visit the forums.

[yungsta404]

Re: Stop Buying Virtual Currency, please

I am total against the whole purchasing VC thing but i dont have a problem with being an option in the game.

My main problem is how the game heavy favorites purchasing VC and how 2k did this on purpose so they can make more money off the customers. that is down right sneaky/dirty/ and disgusting.

1. They lowered the amount of skill points/VC points you get. Last year you got 2,000+ points for a regular game x2 for a key game this year you get about 10% of that.

2. They now you charge for EVERYTHING all the accessories which was free last year (even BASIC accessories) and have ridiculous prices. (I heard even certain stars in blacktop you have to pay vc now but im not sure I dont play blacktop so dont quote me on that)

3. Then they add a mode (my team) which one again HEAVILY ENCOURAGES buying VC. they made it so easy for someone to spend a couple of dollars (only $6 per superstar) to buy their own super team and have a competitive edge against online and have people who dont buy VC having to grind MANY MANY MANY man hours to get 1 star player or get SUPER SUPER lucky and get 1 in a booster pack.

To sum it up once again. I have NO PROBLEM with buying VC being an option in the game but I however do have a problem with how unbalanced they made the system so they can sucker people into spending MORE MONEY.

[nddot]

Re: Stop Buying Virtual Currency, please

This is disgusting.

[Ken Griffery Jr.]

Re: Stop Buying Virtual Currency, please

Let me get this out of the way right now: I created an account specifically to respond to this thread. I cannot believe the amount of people defending this shameless money grab.

I am not a huge gamer. I used to be when I was young and had the time, but I no longer do. I went through a 4-5 year period of not playing any video games, and 2k11 is the reason I even picked up a controller again. 2k is the game I play; I don't have time for anything beyond that (I make time for this because I am a basketball nut).

Having said that, I am just downright pissed off at this trend when it comes to console games. When you PURCHASE A PRODUCT you should be free to use that product how you see fit. As many previous posters have already pointed out, this is different than a company offering extra content such as maps, songs, etc. to enhance a game that may have lost its replay-ability. This is a bait and switch if I've ever seen one. 2k should be ashamed. To completely lock off content that is IN THE GAME, ON THE FRIGGIN DISK and virtually force consumers to pay money for that content beyond the sticker price...that is a racket if I've ever seen one. These were features that were readily available in previous iterations, and to lock them off in this way is false advertising any way you slice it.

I don't play online. I play with my close friends when we find a quick moment from our studies/jobs. To FORCE users to integrate their game experience with an online nickle-and-diming scheme is bull **** from a consumer's point of view. We already purchased the product, and once we fork over that $59.99 (plus tax in my case) we should be able to use that product how we see fit. The fact that you can't use star players in Blacktop mode out of the box when it was in the price of admission in previous iterations (*I know it was not in 2k12 so please don't try to whip that piece of information out) is just ridiculous. The situation is much worse for users who have enjoyed MyPlayer, etc. in the past; now 2k has basically convinced these users to make a $60 investment up-front based on the company's reputation and credibility, without being forthright about the fact that in order to get an experience comparable to 2k11/2k12, they will need to invest more money into the game. (*I'm not even going to address the "just play for VC" argument, take 2 seconds to look at the prices of these accessories/attributes in relation to the rate you can possibly earn them. The prices on these accessories might make sense if the US currency crashes and we experience hyperinflation. Until then, not so much.)

For all of you that say we should be silent: Do you really think that the 2k dev's do not take the time to read these message boards to find out what their most devoted fans think of the direction they've taken the game? This is 2012; business is about marketing as effectively as possible, and companies do as much as they can to gauge consumer satisfaction with their products. A combination of people bitching their hearts out online (and abstaining with their wallets from this VC crap) can absolutely impact what 2k does in the future. So please everyone, listen to the OP. Don't put up with this. Don't support the VC system if you would like video games to continue to offer an experience that does not involve companies reaching into your wallet after you've already forked over the listed price for a game.

Oh, and smack: You're a *******.

/rant.


Peace

[Blue]

You are several years late with the plead. EA has been doing it with their sport title for years and it really is where the gaming bizz is headed. Most people that buy the currency probably don't even visit the forums.

That's completely different, a player can live without automatically getting a five star RB in road to glory but VC restricts some parts of the game. It has instantly become the most important part of the game, the game is a lot less enjoyable without having VC so the fact they force players to spend what little amounts they have on a wristband that has been free for the past decade, it's a huge blow and really it makes several parts of this game hard to have fun with

[BOSsTOwN]

Re: Stop Buying Virtual Currency, please

i feel the same way about this as i do for those people that spend real money on farmville or that smurfs village ipad game.

They are idiots.


I dont care the amount. But why would you spend real money for in game fake money.


its dumb.

But since those games a very profitable and it seems like people are purchasing these VC coins then i guess im in the minority



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also I just started myplayer / my career...i dont see the option to put a headband on him..Do i have to pay VC a headband????





Remember people things like this happen when there isnt any real competition out there.

seems that 2k series peaked with 2k11. 2k13 gameplay feels better than 2k12 but they need to stop with all of this vc nonsense.