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  • keshunleon
    MVP
    • Apr 2006
    • 2111

    #16
    Re: Please post examples of when to use Intense-D, I don't understand its purpose.

    The defense isn't terrible by far and much better than 2K12!

    There is a slight delay to reactions and 2K didn't get rid of the contact that slides the defenders back or out the way when in the paint.

    More paint contact is needed plus 2K need to have separate contact animations for smaller and bigger players.

    One thing I wish 2K did was fix the contest shot issue; players jumping late or when they aren't in a position to contest shots. To many PG's (Nash) are trying to contest or block PF's and C's shots

    Intense-D helps because in 2K12 user players wouldn't contest shots.

    Intense-D should coexist with the player's contest shot attribute but I don't think it does.
    True bout my business, Mane!

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    • SeaNNyT
      Pro
      • Jul 2006
      • 657

      #17
      Re: Please post examples of when to use Intense-D, I don't understand its purpose.

      Originally posted by Mrleaderboards
      This is a terrible video...are you ****in kidding me? that's footage of nba 2k12!!!
      He's asking about 2k13, and then you get a bunch of bandwagoners liking your post??? wtf? i dont get it. THE OP ASKED ABOUT 2k13 intense D, and as far as i know, the CZAR didnt release a 10 part series as he normally does this year, so, miss me with that fam.

      Look, the defense is terrible, point blank PERIOD. Dont try and cover up for 2k, they need to fix on ball D, lateral movement for the defensive player, shot blocking, contact in the paint, and steal attempt recovery animations. I'm nice at 2k fam, i been nice since 99' and i'm not here to brag or boast, more so to tell you i'm experienced in playing 2k, so i know what i'm talking about when i say this game's defensive scheme is THE WORST in the franchise!

      LT will get you burned out here, oh and forget about it if you go on the myplayer blacktop...
      Everything in that video still applies to this year. The left trigger and right trigger quick shuffle work exactly the same.
      S E A N N y T

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      • eF 5ive
        MVP
        • May 2011
        • 2068

        #18
        Re: Please post examples of when to use Intense-D, I don't understand its purpose.

        Originally posted by Mrleaderboards
        This is a terrible video...are you ****in kidding me? that's footage of nba 2k12!!!
        He's asking about 2k13, and then you get a bunch of bandwagoners liking your post??? wtf? i dont get it. THE OP ASKED ABOUT 2k13 intense D, and as far as i know, the CZAR didnt release a 10 part series as he normally does this year, so, miss me with that fam.

        Look, the defense is terrible, point blank PERIOD. Dont try and cover up for 2k, they need to fix on ball D, lateral movement for the defensive player, shot blocking, contact in the paint, and steal attempt recovery animations. I'm nice at 2k fam, i been nice since 99' and i'm not here to brag or boast, more so to tell you i'm experienced in playing 2k, so i know what i'm talking about when i say this game's defensive scheme is THE WORST in the franchise!

        LT will get you burned out here, oh and forget about it if you go on the myplayer blacktop...
        MyPlayer blacktop is an arcade mode, bro. It's not suppose to be a real game. It's a jam fest. The lanes are cleared and iso all day.

        In real games if you try playing swords with the offensive ball handler dude is going to blow past you everytime. Let's bring back the days that D12 could lock down derrick rose on the perimeter though. riiiiiight.

        You kids gotta figure out what you want from a game. If you're glued to the defender, the moment you don't match his movement on key you're getting blown past because you left the margin of error so small. Give fast offensive players a step or three and you can then make a diagonal back movement, reposition, and then LT + Towards the man and match his momentum.

        The moment they bring back the fact you can LT+Shuffle at a light speed and stop the driving you guys will go back to crying about how the game is stupid.

        When 14 comes out though it's cool. You guys will talk about how good 13 was. The cycle will continue.
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        • ggsimmonds
          Hall Of Fame
          • Jan 2009
          • 11235

          #19
          Re: Please post examples of when to use Intense-D, I don't understand its purpose.

          If you're using intense d on Lebron James with a sub par defender you are doing it wrong

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          • hear me now
            Pro
            • Nov 2011
            • 754

            #20
            Re: Please post examples of when to use Intense-D, I don't understand its purpose.

            Originally posted by Mrleaderboards
            show me footage of people being locked up in nba 2k13, and i'll arrest my case.
            You mean you will rest your case.That is opposite what that phrase means.
            Last edited by hear me now; 10-26-2012, 02:32 PM.

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            • TeeDogg
              MVP
              • Jul 2002
              • 2283

              #21
              Re: Please post examples of when to use Intense-D, I don't understand its purpose.

              Originally posted by d11king


              I learned in 2K10, Left Trigger will save your life. I don't jump to block shots anymore since 2K10, ill just hold left trigger and auto contest.. Forcing things like body contact jumpers in the post is something I think people take for granted. Everybody wants to block shots nowadays, just play great defense, I promise it'll pay off. Hell, even holding LT the defender will auto contest and attempt to block the shot, and with the way auto contest works now in 2K12, I think it's definitely a good look.
              Im starting to do this as well. i fight to keep my defender in position to contest and not try to block. seems to get better results. after all, in real life most contests are not attemps to block the shot but to pressure the shooter. the only time i go for the block now is if i feel i know the shot is comming and have a good chance at it. even when you are in position and the contest animation has started, its bet to let it play out, the block animations starts from the begining and a well timed contest seems to get better results at affecting the shooter than a late block attempt.

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              • Optik
                MVP
                • Aug 2012
                • 1025

                #22
                Re: Please post examples of when to use Intense-D, I don't understand its purpose.

                Originally posted by hear me now
                You mean you will rest your case.That is opposite what that phrase means.
                No it isn't. Ar- is just a prefix which implies you are acting on some-thing/one else, since "rest" by itself is just a self-reflexive verb (ONE is doing it to ONE's self) so it doesn't change the meaning at all, although you're correct, one usually says "rest your case" where as you usually "arrest" a human being.

                Originally posted by Dogslax41
                Most people that are asking for a simulation game don’t really want a simulation game because its too hard.

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                • tetoleetd
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 1151

                  #23
                  Re: Please post examples of when to use Intense-D, I don't understand its purpose.

                  on defense all you have to do is stay in front of your man and be ready to press L2 to contest the shot. DONT PRESS TRIANGLE. press L2.

                  ive been stopping people like crazy online ever since i learned that you have to use L2 instead of triangle. just try it.

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                  • Sundown
                    MVP
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 3270

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Mrleaderboards
                    you use it when you want to get burned by the defense. It's purpose is pointless. They've implemented it totally wrong. How i miss NBA 2k9 where they got it right the 1st time. Defense is terrible in this game. You get stuck in these canimations when you miss a steal animation, or block animation. I dont understand it. If 2k manages to come p with a solution for this via a patch, kudo's but i wont hold my breath on it.

                    The best defense i saw implemented in the 2k series was a mix between the lock on defense in 2k9+2k10's on ball defense+2k11 Bumping & shot Blocking, if there could somehow be a marriage of their previous defensive schemes all rolled in one, you'd have the best defensive schematics in basketball history!
                    You use intense D judiciously so you DON'T get burned. It helps create and maintain contact with the defender when used in spurts and puts you in a position to cut off and auto-contest. Don't just lay on it like lock-on defense in 2K10, or else the defender may adjust and drive right by.

                    Steals and blocks are gambles this year like they should be (although it's still way too easy to spam steals). Now blocks are underpowered, but you can play some decent defense just using intense D and good player positioning along with hands up to help contest shots.

                    Watch a real NBA game. Notice how little defenders reach and jump for blocks on interior man defense compared to how often most of us do it in game.

                    Granted, I'm playing with custom sliders that have on ball defense high but intense D is the most useful defensive button in game. It's your first option. Leave the blocks to help defense, late close outs, and chasedowns, and leave the steals to opportunistic gambles.

                    Not sure about online-- partly because it's on a low difficulty, and partly because of lag.
                    Last edited by Sundown; 10-26-2012, 03:29 PM.

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                    • Sundown
                      MVP
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 3270

                      #25
                      Originally posted by AllStarDaDon
                      LMAOOO

                      You speaking the truth brody. I don't understand why people play so close on you then bitch and complain that defense isn't in the game, it's to easy to score in the paint.

                      Ridiculous son.
                      On ball and intense defense is good this year but I do think there isn't enough contact deep in the paint. I like that shot blocks are complete gambles now but it should at least create more contact since it does increase the chance of fouling.

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                      • hear me now
                        Pro
                        • Nov 2011
                        • 754

                        #26
                        Re: Please post examples of when to use Intense-D, I don't understand its purpose.

                        Originally posted by Optik
                        No it isn't. Ar- is just a prefix which implies you are acting on some-thing/one else, since "rest" by itself is just a self-reflexive verb (ONE is doing it to ONE's self) so it doesn't change the meaning at all, although you're correct, one usually says "rest your case" where as you usually "arrest" a human being.

                        You are right the word arrest still makes the phrase mean the same thing,but the phrase was not used properly.
                        Last edited by hear me now; 10-26-2012, 04:38 PM.

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                        • NINJAK2
                          *S *dd*ct
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 6185

                          #27
                          Re: Please post examples of when to use Intense-D, I don't understand its purpose.

                          The only problems I have with 2k13's defense at the moment is not enough contact in the paint and not enough tools to really disrupt that self alley oop play. It's like a long animation that can't be interupted by the defense at all it seems-either by creating contact with the player or the ball. Out of all of 2k's additions I think that one seems to have been put in without a true counter. That dunk should be tied to a package and not something everyone can do who has a decent dunk rating.
                          Last edited by NINJAK2; 03-28-2013, 06:00 PM.
                          EA and 2k have the unfortunate task of trying to balance on a tightrope of fun and sim while trying not to fall 10,000 feet to their death. Instead of a safety net waiting down below there will just be angry customers quick to move out of the way and talk of their failure.

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                          • ILLSmak
                            MVP
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 2397

                            #28
                            Re: Please post examples of when to use Intense-D, I don't understand its purpose.

                            I think defense is good... not great. It's workable. I pride myself in playing D, so you can trust my opinion. It's pretty easy to lock people up... I mean people don't get locked up in real life, but you can stop people.

                            Basically you have to play angles and bump them. Going for a steal is something people do because steals happen way too much in this game! Someone like CP or GP can just rip you all of the time. I try not to steal unless I'm in front of someone. Basically, if you position yourself correctly you can funnel people in a certain direction and that's what D is about.

                            They also made it so that you can just push people out of bounds again. Not sure how I feel about that, but it makes you able to funnel them towards the sideline.

                            So when someone has the ball picked up, you can push up on them... but it's stupid to run up on someone who is dribbling. It's best to position your player where you can still contest the shot and in a place where you'd be cutting of something important. Putting your arms up, etc is good too. Basically you just have to learn what a player wants to do and stop it. If a player can see you are cutting off what he wants to do and has a counter move that works consistently then he is a good player. Consider it like guarding Kobe in real life and just try to make it hard for him.

                            -Smak

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                            • cardinalbird5
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2006
                              • 2814

                              #29
                              Re: Please post examples of when to use Intense-D, I don't understand its purpose.

                              People online have no idea how to play defense or implement realistic defensive schemes and strategies. I always see people setting their defensive settings to guard everyone tight on and off ball. Then I see people go to coach profile and put their defensive pressure all the way up. Not many teams play that high of a pressure defense. Celtics and Jazz are probably the 2 that come to mind, but even they have excellent help defense rotations and principles.
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                              • coldkevin
                                Rookie
                                • Nov 2007
                                • 369

                                #30
                                Re: Please post examples of when to use Intense-D, I don't understand its purpose.

                                Someone who knows the defense could post the correct use of the coach profiles? When and in what circumstances can improve the defense? Make this an "how to defend" thread!

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