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  • mbmonk
    Rookie
    • Dec 2002
    • 68

    #16
    Re: Impossible to win with...

    Originally posted by jd_newton72
    run pick and rolls and cuts to the basket. Force bad shots and run transition game with Kemba mkg and Gordon. Mkg is a good ball handler. He to me feels like a baby lebron. Don't take tough shots n don't dribble with bryon mullens.
    Exactly what this man said. :P

    In the half court if it's man to man defense I am running Pick and Roll with Kemba ( see below ). Kemba is quick, has a really rated high mid range shot ( 87'ish ), and a relatively quick release. If the defense doubles Kemba then I kick to the open man and I should have enough time to get a clean look.

    In the half court if it's zone then I need to know what plays to run, but I can get insanely clean looks for Gordon and others. So that is just a matter of knowing the plays. Again see below.

    Defense that leads transition is really a huge part scoring with the Bobcats. MKG and Kemba have elite level speed ( 90+ ). So getting the ball in their hands is really going to allow you to push the ball and get some easy baskets. Gordon is DEADLY in transition. You can get him wide open looks ( so his longer release time doesn't matter ) in transition.

    I am having fairly good success with them online. I think I am 7 - 3 so far. It so satisfying to beat people with the Bobcats. :P

    My starting 5 so far is
    Kemba
    Gordan
    MKG
    Thomas
    Mullens

    Sessions is the only player that I can't really decide if I should have him in the starting lineup.


    So I will breakdown two plays that I have found to be useful.

    Kemba - 1 Delay Chest ( Pick and Roll ).
    Very good against man coverage. It's a basic PnR play with Gordon coming off a double screen as an option if the PnR is defended well.

    So as Kemba my progression is the following.
    1) Use Pick and look to score ( either driver or mid range pull up ). If covered...
    2) Look for the roll man ( Mullens ). IF covered...
    3) Gordon off a double screen for a jumper.


    Against a 3-2 zone ( which I saw quite a bit of last night for some reason ). I run a 3pt play called Baseline Double for Gordon.
    The play starts out looking for Gordon in the corner after he comes of a single screen on the baseline. If that is covered he runs to the opposite corner coming off two screens to get open. While he is running through those, you will control the point guard and a teammate will set a screen for you. Use it and either attack the basket or just use it to clear the passing lane to Gordon who is now in the opposite corner. This is wide open all day. If Gordon becomes tired you can sub in Carrol and run the exact same play. Also this might be a good time to run Sessions at the point. The Dimer Sig Skill increases the chances of the shot going in if the pass comes from Session. Which in this play it more than likely will.

    I am sure there are better plays and ways to attack a 3-2, this is just what I came up with on the fly during an online game.

    I hope that helps some other fellow Bobcat users. If anyone else wants to share what has been effective for them I would love to hear it. :P
    Last edited by mbmonk; 10-28-2012, 07:43 PM.

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    • Phreezy P
      MVP
      • Jan 2010
      • 3219

      #17
      Re: Impossible to win with...

      Originally posted by strobox88
      You are playing with the team who had the worst record in the history of the NBA last year and wondering why you can't win? If you aren't starting yet or at least a 6th man, I doubt you're even impacting the game much. The game emulates how bad the Bobcats are quite well. If you want to win, you're going to have to take over. You have to be the difference.
      It isn't my player mode.
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      • nova91
        MVP
        • Oct 2009
        • 2074

        #18
        Re: Impossible to win with...

        Originally posted by airaron32
        It isn't my player mode.
        In MC I play with the Bobcats. In my rookie year right now we are 23-3. I was playing on All-Star Sim now it's Superstar Sim. It's still not hard to win with them, in fact it's easier.
        Say "No" to railroaded MC modes.

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        • Phreezy P
          MVP
          • Jan 2010
          • 3219

          #19
          Re: Impossible to win with...

          Originally posted by nova91
          In MC I play with the Bobcats. In my rookie year right now we are 23-3. I was playing on All-Star Sim now it's Superstar Sim. It's still not hard to win with them, in fact it's easier.
          I didn't say you weren't, I was talking about the OP.
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          • AllStarDaDon
            Pro
            • Dec 2010
            • 932

            #20
            Re: Impossible to win with...

            Originally posted by nova91
            The Bobcats are wayyyyyyyyy better on this game than they are in real life. Gordon from the left corner is money, 3 shots from there and he is on fire after that you can drop shots from nearly anywhere on the court with him. Thomas and Mullens are mid range monsters. Walker of the dribble and slashing through the paint and to the rim is ridiculous. MKG can't shoot but attacking the basket he's a terror. Haywood can rebound with the best of them. Williams and Carroll can prove to be extremely deadly from three when left alone. Biyombo's ability to challenge shots is a huge asset.

            Don't blame 2K because you can't win with them, you have to know the team, if you do you can most definitely win with them.
            This!

            I played King Jackson last night he chose the lolcats and I had the Nuggets. He was up the whole first half, then I came back mid 3rd quarter to take the lead. A few shots from Gordon and he was up by 10 again. He ended up winning the game.

            Gordon shot 12-24 a good 32 points I believed. I didn't know Mullens could shoot. Sagged of him nothing but splash lol. I adjusted after his 3rd make.

            I remember I was playing my boy ibrampton he had the Lakers I had the Bobcats. I took it to him, close game all the way down to the end. He ended up winning by 4 points. But ask him how was that Bobcats defense

            Bottom line is if you know the team, know basketball and know how to play the least bit of defense you'll do just fine.
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            Originally posted by JasonWilliams55
            This video game is a SIMULATION of BASKETBALL. Sure its not 100% perfect, but its pretty damn good. You will not get a SIMULATION STYLE BASKETBALL GAME by PLAYING SOMEONE WHO DOES NOT KNOW WHAT SIMULATION MEANS.


            #HelloBrooklyn

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            • acolbert
              Pro
              • Aug 2012
              • 775

              #21
              Re: Impossible to win with...

              I use them in my Association, went to the playoffs and swept TOR (got swept by MIA though next round). I like using them!

              But I think as long as you know how to use the pieces on any team you can be successful with them
              Rather than complain about life, take responsibility and do something about it..

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              • finnydot
                Banned
                • Oct 2012
                • 67

                #22
                Re: Impossible to win with...

                Go play with the Magic and complain then...

                That team is turrrrible.

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                • AllStarDaDon
                  Pro
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 932

                  #23
                  Re: Impossible to win with...

                  Originally posted by finnydot
                  Go play with the Magic and complain then...

                  That team is turrrrible.
                  Ive won games with the Magic.

                  Had Glen Davis shooting 13 out of 15.
                  Add me om PSN for a good game of basketball!
                  PSN IsomotionKing

                  Originally posted by JasonWilliams55
                  This video game is a SIMULATION of BASKETBALL. Sure its not 100% perfect, but its pretty damn good. You will not get a SIMULATION STYLE BASKETBALL GAME by PLAYING SOMEONE WHO DOES NOT KNOW WHAT SIMULATION MEANS.


                  #HelloBrooklyn

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                  • jd_newton72
                    Rookie
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 171

                    #24
                    Re: Impossible to win with...

                    Originally posted by acolbert
                    I use them in my Association, went to the playoffs and swept TOR (got swept by MIA though next round). I like using them!

                    But I think as long as you know how to use the pieces on any team you can be successful with them
                    Same thing happene to me except I beat Philly then got swept by the heat. Their offense is just impossible to stop and they force way to many turn overs. Like I know Shane battier is good but wow he averages like 4 steals a game from me. Cannot dribble against him. Mario chambers plays unreal
                    Defense too. He's good but I swear in this game I'm better against tony Allen then him.

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                    • bm011
                      Rookie
                      • Aug 2012
                      • 265

                      #25
                      Re: Impossible to win with...

                      I'm actually pretty dominant with the bobcats. While they are not good in real life, I can do very well with them in this years game.

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