Increased Online 3 Point %

[cardinalbird5]

Re: Increased Online 3 Point %

These are pro basketball players, they should be able to shoot wide open 3s.

Even the best shooters still miss 6/10 of shots and most of the highest 3 point shooters mainly shoot set corner shots uncontested or coming off ball screens. 9/10 wide open shots go in now. Totally unrealistic.

I agree that it was a tad low when they made the change, but it was more realistic than this garbage we got now. I'd rather go 2/6 from 3 and my opponent go 4/20, because they don't take good shots than for me to go 19/33 and my opponent go 12/25. I still win games, but it isn't fun at all. I can stop people from scoring inside, but I can't stop contested 3's from going in and you definitely can't guard both. The way it was when 3 point slider was tuned down was that I noticed the mid range game was a big part of everyone's arsenal. Now the mid range is useless.

Not to mention black top is awful again. Me and my crew won about 50 straight games when the sliders were turned down. We had 1 PG, 3 pt specialist and my 7'2 center. We would take what the defense gives us. We would also play a triangle defense with me playing under the basket and it would often confuse our opponents. Now we can't do any of that. We have to jack up 3's just to match our opponents. We lost by 1 point last night to some scrubs that walked back and forth from the 3 point line, which is nearly impossible to guard w/o some sort of lock on defense.

Yep...hope the casuals enjoy this. Not that sim guys matter or anything....since this is what the game is supposed to be.

[dsl0614]

Re: Increased Online 3 Point %

Clippers are now back to being unguardable... I do not remember the last time Lamar Odom was able to make 4-4 from the 3 point line.

[LoudMouthHoops]

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These are pro basketball players, they should be able to shoot wide open 3s.

This isn't just about wide open 3's...

2K has botched this. Before almost all 3's, especially wide open 3's, went in....then almost no 3's, even wide open 3's went in....and now instead of splitting the difference, we are back to the old way.

Just makes me think the 2K people are truly CLUELESS.

Even the best shooters still miss 6/10 of shots and most of the highest 3 point shooters mainly shoot set corner shots uncontested or coming off ball screens. 9/10 wide open shots go in now. Totally unrealistic.

I agree that it was a tad low when they made the change, but it was more realistic than this garbage we got now. I'd rather go 2/6 from 3 and my opponent go 4/20, because they don't take good shots than for me to go 19/33 and my opponent go 12/25. I still win games, but it isn't fun at all. I can stop people from scoring inside, but I can't stop contested 3's from going in and you definitely can't guard both. The way it was when 3 point slider was tuned down was that I noticed the mid range game was a big part of everyone's arsenal. Now the mid range is useless.

Not to mention black top is awful again. Me and my crew won about 50 straight games when the sliders were turned down. We had 1 PG, 3 pt specialist and my 7'2 center. We would take what the defense gives us. We would also play a triangle defense with me playing under the basket and it would often confuse our opponents. Now we can't do any of that. We have to jack up 3's just to match our opponents. We lost by 1 point last night to some scrubs that walked back and forth from the 3 point line, which is nearly impossible to guard w/o some sort of lock on defense.

Yep...hope the casuals enjoy this. Not that sim guys matter or anything....since this is what the game is supposed to be.

I completely agree....given ONLY the choice between the old settings and the new ones, I would take the newer ones with fewer 3's because at least it's a little close to realistic and makes the game play more like a real basketball game.

I still don't understand why we can't have something in the middle....

The big problem I notice is that it appears all that was done was a change in difficulty, which doesn't just effect shooting, but effects DEFENSE as well.

Since the re-implementation of the old 3-point shooting, I've noticed that DEFENSE, especially on the ball, is next to impossible.

Worst is the ability to just walk around with the ball and then launch a 3....this is pure CRAP and just shows how BROKEN the on-ball defense and shot contesting is right now at whatever settings the online is set at.

[The Earth Blues]

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Clippers are now back to being unguardable... I do not remember the last time Lamar Odom was able to make 4-4 from the 3 point line.

You just suck. Out of the 90 or so games I have played, I've probably faced the Clippers 40 times and am probably 30-10 against them. The Clippers are weak.

[DrX]

Re: Increased Online 3 Point %

ppl on this forum complain about everything...last week everybody complained about the low 3pt % now its back to normal and ppl complain its too high



how about learning how to play the game, and u wont have to worry about cheesers



im 316-83 and play with the nets, which is a non athletic team and destroy
"cheesers"

[MarvinOida]

Here is how i play defense in man to man on blacktop it isn't 100% effective but it helps me out a lot with the cheeser you

Hold L2 down just to put pressure on them and stay body to body as soon as they try to make a horizontal movement hold R2 down also it speeds up your players ability to shuffle from side to side and cut him off from driving or running all across the perimeter it works for me

THIS. I've been doing THIS and it has helped me guard my man. The only downside to this is when I'm guarding a center that is A LEGIT (not 3 point specialist) center (they use the post). You don't even need to be fast, just good with the sticks. I've used this with 2K13, 2K12, 2K11, and my most recent 2K pickup, CHoops 2K8, it's like an auto-locked down on the man you guard. The man could be 99 3 point with Adidas Leg Sleeves, this helps!


Sent from the kid with a iGame Boy (3GS) using Tapatalk.

[LoudMouthHoops]

Re: Increased Online 3 Point %

ppl on this forum complain about everything...last week everybody complained about the low 3pt % now its back to normal and ppl complain its too high



how about learning how to play the game, and u wont have to worry about cheesers



im 316-83 and play with the nets, which is a non athletic team and destroy
"cheesers"

people are complaining because they made 3's too easy...then changed it to where they were too difficult....and then instead of FIXING it, they just made them too EASY, again!

That's a problem with 2K...

Sorry, but most people I run into like you are just CHEESERS, they just either don't realize it...or won't admit it.

[magicman32]

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Here is how i play defense in man to man on blacktop it isn't 100% effective but it helps me out a lot with the cheeser you

Hold L2 down just to put pressure on them and stay body to body as soon as they try to make a horizontal movement hold R2 down also it speeds up your players ability to shuffle from side to side and cut him off from driving or running all across the perimeter it works for me

This is exactly right. Man to man is fine IMO. It isn't 100% perfect, but you can play man to man and be effective. You just have to be good at anticipation and know how cut off the angle so you can trigger the bump animation. Also you must know when to use Turbo (sprint) and also take advantage of the shuffle feature (L2 and R2).

I played a couple of games last night and I think the 3's are fine now. Contested 3's and 3's without ball movement isn't nearly as successful. You can actually make open 3's now with good ball movement. So I like the adjustment 2k made.

[DrX]

Re: Increased Online 3 Point %

people are complaining because they made 3's too easy...then changed it to where they were too difficult....and then instead of FIXING it, they just made them too EASY, again!

That's a problem with 2K...

Sorry, but most people I run into like you are just CHEESERS, they just either don't realize it...or won't admit it.

no i just understand basketball


i run plays, take high % shots, shoot 90% from the line, hold my opponents to 43 ppg and only avy 4.3 T.Os a game


its all about defense, rebounding, getting good shots and not turning the ball over


u guys just dont get basketball

[Rockie_Fresh88]

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no i just understand basketball


i run plays, take high % shots, shoot 90% from the line, hold my opponents to 43 ppg and only avy 4.3 T.Os a game


its all about defense, rebounding, getting good shots and not turning the ball over


u guys just dont get basketball

^^^^ sure

[LoudMouthHoops]

Re: Increased Online 3 Point %

no i just understand basketball


i run plays, take high % shots, shoot 90% from the line, hold my opponents to 43 ppg and only avy 4.3 T.Os a game


its all about defense, rebounding, getting good shots and not turning the ball over


u guys just dont get basketball

And so do I...

I'm sorry but have you been online since the settings were adjusted AGAIN??

Because it's a joke....Defense no longer exists as it did....and playing on the ball defense is about the dumbest thing you can do....it's like asking for a LOSS.

Defensive players get stuck in their defensive stances while bump and body up animations are much harder to trigger.

We see 2K's formula....nuke the defense and JUICE the offense....because these idiot cheesers who play online just HAVE to score 75+ points per game in 5 minute qtrs or else they get MAD.

I'm about done with this lousy product 2K has put out...

Combined with their schizophrenic behavior when it comes to adjusting the settings for online play, and this game has honestly become a JOKE.

Game of the Year my ***...

[phant030]

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Just because you're open, does NOT mean you should make the shot. You should see higher percentages of makes vs. contest shots. Just b/c you get a perfect release with a great shooter does NOT mean you should make the shot. I think the conflict lies with the mastery video game mechanics and the results they produce with what actually happens in real life and what is done to produce those results.

2ndly, I'll never know why they do so much to please a portion of the market with 'easier' gameplay. They will still be dominated and frustrated by a person who has 'figured out the system'.

And as far as 3s go, they just need to lower the consistency of mediocre shooters and even some good shooters. And lower the shoot off dribble ratings b/c they cant put the ball on the floor and shoot.

[bigball12]

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Glad it's back to normal. I only play team up with my friends on HOF w/ Sim slider set, we shoot realistic %'s. This past week was a disaster for us!

[demfl]

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Just because you're open, does NOT mean you should make the shot. You should see higher percentages of makes vs. contest shots. Just b/c you get a perfect release with a great shooter does NOT mean you should make the shot. I think the conflict lies with the mastery video game mechanics and the results they produce with what actually happens in real life and what is done to produce those results.

In "real life" if NBA teams left Korver wide open all game long, the way they do in 2k13, he would average 20ppg easily. The problem is defense.

[Idgachuck]

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you f*ckin "it isn't realistic" people... *** **** you guys ruin these forums. wanna know what's not realistic?

1. anyone with the "poster" sig skill or whatever it's called, can run around for 21 seconds and run to the paint and dunk on ANYONE. doesn't matter if it's Tyson or freakin Dikembe Mutumbo.

2. 1-3-1 zone.
3. how you can put "scrapper" sig skill on ANY player no matter how bad they are and they will be playing lockdown D on lebron freakin james.
4. everything about Blacktop.
5. taking charges before the opposing player crosses the half court line.

i could make a list numbered up to 100. the point is it's a VIDEO GAME. it's not made to be 100% realistic. there are people who buy this game that don't know a damn thing about basketball, they just play it to have fun. so they have to alter the gameplay to fit even the most casual gamers.

there is a ton that could be fixed to make it "realistic", but they aren't going to ever do that. so stop freaking out about it. if you want **** to be so realistic go pick up a basketball and play a real game.