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  • Rockie_Fresh88
    Lockdown Defender
    • Oct 2011
    • 9620

    #121
    Re: Best blockers are useless in this game!

    He didn't get any blocks with Dwight ?
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    First Team Defense !!!

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    • Coach2K
      Hall of Fame
      • Mar 2012
      • 1702

      #122
      Re: Best blockers are useless in this game!

      Originally posted by mars5541
      He didn't get any blocks with Dwight ?
      We're in an association. He traded Dwight and Gasol I'm pretty sure. Couple of other guys were hurt. He has MKG and Walker and some other guys to go with Kobe and Nash.
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      • w3phan
        Rookie
        • Oct 2012
        • 20

        #123
        Re: Best blockers are useless in this game!

        I think it's gotten a little bit better in the past few game updates, I'm not too sure.

        I know I was lucky to get a single block off with Ibaka in a 48 minute game when I first got the game. Now, I've been able to get off like 2-3 blocks with Amir Johnson every game.

        I also manage to get 2-3 blocks with Aaron Gray every game as well... weird.

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        • MVP9072
          MVP
          • Jun 2012
          • 1312

          #124
          Re: Best blockers are useless in this game!

          Moving intense D to 0 helped me so i have full control of my players

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          • Mmiles33
            Rookie
            • Oct 2011
            • 153

            #125
            Re: Best blockers are useless in this game!

            The Block rating kinda useless. Post Defense Rating and Height are the best ratings for defensive Big Men. Also, the defensive anchor skill is nice to have too.

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            • coldkevin
              Rookie
              • Nov 2007
              • 369

              #126
              Re: Best blockers are useless in this game!

              Originally posted by Mmiles33
              The Block rating kinda useless. Post Defense Rating and Height are the best ratings for defensive Big Men. Also, the defensive anchor skill is nice to have too.
              Oh yeah, no doubt.

              Playing with new york, Chandler has all the features you mention: 5 games, 0 blocks.

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              • Goldin Brown
                Rookie
                • Mar 2011
                • 104

                #127
                Re: Best blockers are useless in this game!

                The thing I've found is that the timing is just weird for getting blocks. What I've found is that you have to jump late to get the block animation to trigger. The ball needs to be in the air then you have to jump to try and swat it. Works best when you are controlling the weak side defender and someone is trying to get a layup, floater or something inside. You won't get all of them but should get a few a game with a good shot blocker.

                Try it. Control your best shot blocker every time down on D and just play around with the timing. If you try and go to quick, they'll call a foul, try and wait til the ball is out of the shooter's hand.

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                • Romano338
                  Rookie
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 199

                  #128
                  Re: Best blockers are useless in this game!

                  Awesome block on Jamison:

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                  • Taer
                    MVP
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 1432

                    #129
                    Re: Best blockers are useless in this game!

                    After further play-testing, I have come to the conclusion that the "best blockers" are not performing as they do in the NBA.

                    I've only played 76 games since I last posted in this thread, but here are my results:

                    Javale McGee - NBA Avg: 2.0, NBA Career Avg: 1.8, 2k13 Avg: 1.3. McGee according to his past NBA stats and considering he has the "Eraser" signature skill should be sending away shots with emphasis.

                    Yet this is only one example. Let me share with you all additional evidence.
                    NBA Top Blockers:
                    1. Larry Sanders 3.2
                    2. Serge Ibaka 2.9
                    3. Tim Duncan 2.8
                    4. Roy Hibbert 2.7
                    5. Dwight Howard 2.3
                    6. Brook Lopez 2.2
                    7. Josh Smith 2.1
                    8. JaVale McGee 2.0
                    9. Joakim Noah 2.0
                    10. Anthony Davis 1.9

                    2K13's Top Blockers:
                    1. S. Ibaka 1.9
                    2. A. Bogut 1.8
                    3. D. Jordan 1.7
                    4. D. Howard 1.7
                    5. A. Bynum 1.7
                    6. T. Thomas 1.6
                    7. R. Hibbert 1.6
                    8. S. Dalembert 1.6
                    9. J. Jhonson 1.5
                    10. M. Cambry 1.5

                    It is not the fact that the Eraser skill is not working. It is working - 2/3 of the top blockers have the skill. What is wrong is the efficiency of the top blockers. The deviation of the blocks is between .6 and 1... with the 2k13 player being lower in every case.

                    With the difference between the best and the worse of the top 10 in the NBA being 1.3 blocks per game, it is worth the effort to have the better player on your roster.

                    With the difference between the best and the worse of the top 10 in 2k13 being .4 blocks a game, the advantage of having a "better" blocker is meh at best. This should not be.
                    Last edited by Taer; 02-15-2013, 07:29 AM. Reason: Fixed lists.

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                    • Romano338
                      Rookie
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 199

                      #130
                      Re: Best blockers are useless in this game!

                      Originally posted by Taer
                      It is not the fact that the Eraser skill is not working. It is working - 2/3 of the top blockers have the skill. What is wrong is the efficiency of the top blockers. The deviation of the blocks is between .6 and 1... with the 2k13 player being lower in every case.
                      Yeah, but being the best blockers in NBA, they also have the higher rating in "block". So what make them block in the game: "block" or Eraser?

                      I feel like Eraser just give a boost to your partners.
                      I don't think it helps you with the block. Just after the block.
                      I have Eraser lvl 2, and sometimes, I watch replays when I'm like "how the hell can he not block that?" and the animations are awful.
                      Some people say Chase Down Artis unlocks animations, I don't think Eraser does. You still have your player moving his arm back right when the ball leaves the hand and stuff like that.

                      I'd like (but I know we won't) to have a word from 2k sports on it, but I'm starting to be pretty sure that Eraser is only effective after a block.

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                      • Goffs
                        New Ork Giants
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 12276

                        #131
                        Re: Best blockers are useless in this game!

                        Originally posted by Taer
                        1. Larry Sanders 3.2
                        2. Serge Ibaka 2.9
                        3. Tim Duncan 2.8
                        4. Roy Hibbert 2.7
                        5. Dwight Howard 2.3
                        6. Brook Lopez 2.2
                        7. Josh Smith 2.1
                        8. JaVale McGee 2.0
                        9. Joakim Noah 2.0
                        10. Anthony Davis 1.9

                        2K13's Top Blockers:
                        1. S. Ibaka 1.9
                        2. A. Bogut 1.8
                        3. D. Jordan 1.7
                        4. D. Howard 1.7
                        5. A. Bynum 1.7
                        6. T. Thomas 1.6
                        7. R. Hibbert 1.6
                        8. S. Dalembert 1.6
                        9. J. Jhonson 1.5
                        10. M. Cambry 1.5

                        Joe Johnson? If so....



                        please please make defense a PRIORITY for 2k14...I want to see a full page on defense and not just a half assed paragraph on how little things changed...
                        Last edited by Goffs; 02-15-2013, 08:21 AM.

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                        • Taer
                          MVP
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 1432

                          #132
                          Re: Best blockers are useless in this game!

                          Originally posted by Goffs
                          Joe Johnson? If so....
                          James Johnson of Sacramento. (NBA avg = 1.1) Sorry to disappoint

                          Originally posted by Goffs
                          ...please please make defense a PRIORITY for 2k14...I want to see a full page on defense and not just a half assed paragraph on how little things changed...
                          I totally agree.

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                          • JasonWilliams55
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2012
                            • 2045

                            #133
                            Re: Best blockers are useless in this game!

                            Originally posted by Taer
                            After further play-testing, I have come to the conclusion that the "best blockers" are not performing as they do in the NBA.

                            I've only played 76 games since I last posted in this thread, but here are my results:


                            Javale McGee - NBA Avg: 2.0, NBA Career Avg: 1.8, 2k13 Avg: 1.3. McGee according to his past NBA stats and considering he has the "Eraser" signature skill should be sending away shots with emphasis.

                            Yet this is only one example. Let me share with you all additional evidence.
                            NBA Top Blockers:
                            1. Larry Sanders 3.2
                            2. Serge Ibaka 2.9
                            3. Tim Duncan 2.8
                            4. Roy Hibbert 2.7
                            5. Dwight Howard 2.3
                            6. Brook Lopez 2.2
                            7. Josh Smith 2.1
                            8. JaVale McGee 2.0
                            9. Joakim Noah 2.0
                            10. Anthony Davis 1.9

                            2K13's Top Blockers:
                            1. S. Ibaka 1.9
                            2. A. Bogut 1.8
                            3. D. Jordan 1.7
                            4. D. Howard 1.7
                            5. A. Bynum 1.7
                            6. T. Thomas 1.6
                            7. R. Hibbert 1.6
                            8. S. Dalembert 1.6
                            9. J. Jhonson 1.5
                            10. M. Cambry 1.5

                            It is not the fact that the Eraser skill is not working. It is working - 2/3 of the top blockers have the skill. What is wrong is the efficiency of the top blockers. The deviation of the blocks is between .6 and 1... with the 2k13 player being lower in every case.

                            With the difference between the best and the worse of the top 10 in the NBA being 1.3 blocks per game, it is worth the effort to have the better player on your roster.

                            With the difference between the best and the worse of the top 10 in 2k13 being .4 blocks a game, the advantage of having a "better" blocker is meh at best. This should not be.
                            How did you come up with your stats (NBA2k13 side)? I see 76 games... but what does that mean? You played 76 games with each player or 76 total? Are you controlling each player or are these simmed stats?
                            "Most people would learn from their mistakes if they weren't so busy denying them"

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                            • Romano338
                              Rookie
                              • Jan 2013
                              • 199

                              #134
                              Re: Best blockers are useless in this game!

                              But of course, sometimes, you can get big games like the 6-blocks game I just did

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                              • nova91
                                MVP
                                • Oct 2009
                                • 2071

                                #135
                                Re: Best blockers are useless in this game!

                                Originally posted by Taer
                                After further play-testing, I have come to the conclusion that the "best blockers" are not performing as they do in the NBA.

                                I've only played 76 games since I last posted in this thread, but here are my results:

                                Javale McGee - NBA Avg: 2.0, NBA Career Avg: 1.8, 2k13 Avg: 1.3. McGee according to his past NBA stats and considering he has the "Eraser" signature skill should be sending away shots with emphasis.

                                Yet this is only one example. Let me share with you all additional evidence.
                                NBA Top Blockers:
                                1. Larry Sanders 3.2
                                2. Serge Ibaka 2.9
                                3. Tim Duncan 2.8
                                4. Roy Hibbert 2.7
                                5. Dwight Howard 2.3
                                6. Brook Lopez 2.2
                                7. Josh Smith 2.1
                                8. JaVale McGee 2.0
                                9. Joakim Noah 2.0
                                10. Anthony Davis 1.9

                                2K13's Top Blockers:
                                1. S. Ibaka 1.9
                                2. A. Bogut 1.8
                                3. D. Jordan 1.7
                                4. D. Howard 1.7
                                5. A. Bynum 1.7
                                6. T. Thomas 1.6
                                7. R. Hibbert 1.6
                                8. S. Dalembert 1.6
                                9. J. Jhonson 1.5
                                10. M. Cambry 1.5

                                It is not the fact that the Eraser skill is not working. It is working - 2/3 of the top blockers have the skill. What is wrong is the efficiency of the top blockers. The deviation of the blocks is between .6 and 1... with the 2k13 player being lower in every case.

                                With the difference between the best and the worse of the top 10 in the NBA being 1.3 blocks per game, it is worth the effort to have the better player on your roster.

                                With the difference between the best and the worse of the top 10 in 2k13 being .4 blocks a game, the advantage of having a "better" blocker is meh at best. This should not be.
                                This is what I'm talking about. In my association Javale averaged 1.4 bpg for the last 2 years. He already has a high block rating but his other ratings are going up so he demands more money in FA or a team wants more when trying to trade for him. Why would I give more for him when he isn't even that good at what he does best? He wants 13-14 mil a year, why should I give it to him when I can get some 60-65 rated rookie from the draft and get -.3 to -.5 bpg for 10-11 mil cheaper.
                                Say "No" to railroaded MC modes.

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