Total Sim Control

[ffaacc03]

Re: Total Sim Control

This tool is complementary to the roster, the issues you have can only be addressed by altering both, players stats and the settings of this tool ... there is no predetermined settings for Total Sim Control, nor does the settings need to necessarily match the teams real life tendencies ... also not every variable has to be inputted (like 3 best scorers) ... again, this tool is complementary to the roster so you need to edit accordingly to match your specific sim stats needs.

3pt FGatts can be somewhat altered with TSC, FTatts not ... as already stated, you need to edit the players themselves.


Want to give 2k props for this tool and hopefully they expand on it for next games.

[Melbournelad]

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Try using these for whatever team you are.

Yeah already tried VRTCB's before posting this thread, but thanks.

[kennethaa]

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Whats the point of controlling all the teams, dont understand it?

[ffaacc03]

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Whats the point of controlling all the teams, dont understand it?

Total Sim Control provides you with the means to have more accurate sim stats, the more teams you control the better the outcome ... its the same for other parts of the game too, the more you control the more you can reduce the amount of unrealistic/irrational/missmanagement/wackyness the AI does ... as much as 2k has one of the best franchises around (thus not improved for a while now), it has some pretty poor AI logic in many aspects such as rotation & player roles management, trading, team build, drafting, etc ... this is one of the things were having more control given to the user, the better ... not to say we dont want all those things to be improved, but we need more control.

Since almost everyone have different views on how the game should play, there are specific tools that let you edit the teams and players so you can see what you want when oncourt ... TSC has emerge (finally 2k recognizes this) as a tool to edit results from the sim engine, separatedly than those seen oncourt ... this enables you to fit the game onto your unique personal view of how the game should best emulate the NBA.

[kennethaa]

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Total Sim Control provides you with the means to have more accurate sim stats, the more teams you control the better the outcome ... its the same for other parts of the game too, the more you control the more you can reduce the amount of unrealistic/irrational/missmanagement/wackyness the AI does ... as much as 2k has one of the best franchises around (thus not improved for a while now), it has some pretty poor AI logic in many aspects such as rotation & player roles management, trading, team build, drafting, etc ... this is one of the things were having more control given to the user, the better ... not to say we dont want all those things to be improved, but we need more control.

Since almost everyone have different views on how the game should play, there are specific tools that let you edit the teams and players so you can see what you want when oncourt ... TSC has emerge (finally 2k recognizes this) as a tool to edit results from the sim engine, separatedly than those seen oncourt ... this enables you to fit the game onto your unique personal view of how the game should best emulate the NBA.

Would you prefere a all team control association if you dont want to SIM all games?

[Melbournelad]

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Whats the point of controlling all the teams, dont understand it?

Why wouldn't you?

[ffaacc03]

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Would you prefere a all team control association if you dont want to SIM all games?

Lets say you play all 82 games (or whatever the # of games in setting) with your team, you dont sim any games with your team ...

The rest of all other 29 teams games would be simmed and be it with default rosters (the awfull of them all) or with custom rosters, the sim results may be very different than those expected once compared to real life stats ...

Also, as stated, every other facet of the AI logic isnt good enough, so expect perennial 6th men to be started, rotations & minutes to be allocated weirdly, ilogical trades and team building, etc, etc, etc ...

Then again, is all about the level of "hardcore" you are ... for example, I just know that I cant play a season/association were Dragic & Jennings (from the get go) are far better than a prime Nash ... or were teams stack 3 all stars PGs ... or were LAL has the best defense, ppga wise ...

[kennethaa]

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Lets say you play all 82 games (or whatever the # of games in setting) with your team, you dont sim any games with your team ...

The rest of all other 29 teams games would be simmed and be it with default rosters (the awfull of them all) or with custom rosters, the sim results may be very different than those expeced once compared to real life stats ...

Also, as stated, every other facet of the AI logic isnt good enough, so expect perennial 6th men to be started, rotations & minutes to be allocated weirdly, ilogical trades and team building, etc, etc, etc ...

Then again, is all about the level of "hardcore" you are ... for example, I just know that I cant play a season/association were Dragic & Jennings (from the get go) are far better than a prime Nash ... or were teams stack 3 all stars PGs ... or were LAL has the best defense, ppga wise ...

So when you do a thirdty team association, you only play with one time and sim the others via. Total sim cotrol or what?

And isnt it lame with trading, when you control all tradings?

- Im only asking couz i want to try it out

[ffaacc03]

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So when you do a thirdty team association, you only play with one time and sim the others via. Total sim cotrol or what?

And isnt it lame with trading, when you control all tradings?

- Im only asking couz i want to try it out

Once in 30 team control, you can choose to play the games of any team or sim them all ... at the begining of the mode you can even select a few things to be handled by the cpu, for each team ... like signings, trades, rotation, draft ... but if so, you will be at the mercy of the flawly AI ... you can also manage those things for all teams, its your choice and depends on how hardcore are you, in terms of having better results that can offer an outcome more related to what may/has happen in real life ...

In respect of drafting, trading and signings, since the AI is flawed, doing such things by (yourself) at least considering context & cba restrictions offers a much better experience ... there are some association guides threads around that you can look into, for some type of guidance ... also, there are some fanmade tools like excel sheets that function as a replacement for the flawed FA signing logic ...

Again, it all depends on your level of hardcore and it comes with the price of having to do a bit more of work than otherwise, then again, once you do it a couple of times is just a walk in the park easy to do.

[Melbournelad]

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Once in 30 team control, you can choose to play the games of any team or sim them all ... at the begining of the mode you can even select a few things to be handled by the cpu, for each team ... like signings, trades, rotation, draft ... but if so, you will be at the mercy of the flawly AI ... you can also manage those things for all teams, its your choice and depends on how hardcore are you, in terms of having better results that can offer an outcome more related to what may/has happen in real life ...

In respect of drafting, trading and signings, since the AI is flawed, doing such things by (yourself) at least considering context & cba restrictions offers a much better experience ... there are some association guides threads around that you can look into, for some type of guidance ... also, there are some fanmade tools like excel sheets that function as a replacement for the flawed FA signing logic ...

Again, it all depends on your level of hardcore and it comes with the price of having to do a bit more of work than otherwise, then again, once you do it a couple of times is just a walk in the park easy to do.

Yeah as ffaacc03 said once you do it a few times it really doesn't take long it all. It is MUCH better than leaving things to 2k's poor logic.

[kennethaa]

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Yeah as ffaacc03 said once you do it a few times it really doesn't take long it all. It is MUCH better than leaving things to 2k's poor logic.

Do you do all the trades for all the teams?

[ffaacc03]

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Do you do all the trades for all the teams?

yes, you can ... search for the guides as I stated (bedwards & eaglerock ones come to mind) ... or you could let the cpu do the trades/signings and live with the outcome ... also you can let it do those and just alter/trade back/waiver the ones you think werent in line with what you would expect ... bottom line (again), depends on how OK are you with the AI logic on such matters and on your level of hardcore.

[cgalligan]

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Its 30 team control or nothing for me because of the bad logic involved in CPU transactions / draft picks and, well, pretty much everything lol.

ie - I simmed a season once in 2k13, Cavaliers had #2 pick, drafted a Point Guard... Logic?

[kennethaa]

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I like the realistic game of a thirty control association, but i just sound to me that its take loooooooooooooong time and you have way to much to control

[cgalligan]

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I'm also having problems with TSC... I'm 4 years into my association and some teams just aren't playing how they should, according to their 95+ overall ratings...

I'd love to post some of the team Rosters / Rotations and get your ideas and insight on what I should set their TSC to be for each team.

Any takers?