High powered teams.

[ksuttonjr76]

Is the Miami offense based on Lebron running in circles until a defender falls down in real life? Can Blake Griffin make defenders slide a few meters towards the basket like they're playing on ice simply by running into them? Can Chris Paul do random dribble moves for 15 seconds without any loss of momentum?

You should start watching real basketball, it's really not that simple.

Very true. Based on Synergy data, Lebron's scoring and driving attempts in the paint dropped dramatically when Hibbert was on the floor during the playoffs. Is that reflected in this game? Nope. Lebron can score in the paint like Hibbert doesn't exist.

[mango_prom]

Re: High powered teams.

Very true. Based on Synergy data, Lebron's scoring and driving attempts in the paint dropped dramatically when Hibbert was on the floor during the playoffs. Is that reflected in this game? Nope. Lebron can score in the paint like Hibbert doesn't exist.

True. Even the Cavs offense around Lebron wasn't as simplistic as casuals think. He handled the ball a lot, of course. But still, it only worked because of proper spacing and off the ball movement by the guys around him. Which isn't necessary in 2k13 at all.
You don't even have to try to open things up by using iso plays with good spacing. Just run around with Lebron, against 3 guys in the paint there's always the spin dunk ot self alley. Running plays is simply a waste of time in this game.

And the whole "Those teams are good in real life" argument is useless for another reason. If you really use the real league as the standard we should compare the game to...in real life good teams are beating bad teams most of the time, but why?
Let's say both teams have a good game plan and are executing every possession as good as they can. Take Heat vs Bobcats maybe. If Miami is playing up to their potential, they'll win most of the time. But let's say they start to play like freaking idiots...no plays being called anymore. Lebron and Wade bringing the ball up court sprinting everytime. Lebron doing 5 spin moves per possession, running into triple teams in the post. Full court press all game. Would they still beat the Bobcats? Hell no.
If you play real life basketball that way, no matter whether it's rec league or NBA, you'll get torched. Simple as that.

[GradyMac]

Re: High powered teams.

"Player skill and using players right way mean nothing in this game."

I disagree. I use Bobcats 95% of the time. I know their roster, their stats, their shot releases.

I have some "go-to" plays I call. Pick and pop with Henderson; Baseline double with Gordon.

I regularly beat the Heat, Thunder, Bulls, Knicks users.

[GradyMac]

Re: High powered teams.

Its virtually impposible to play solid D in this game with a mid-tier team

Again, I disagree. The Bobcats are hardly "mid-tier" but I still play solid D.

[OkayC]

Re: High powered teams.

"Player skill and using players right way mean nothing in this game."

I disagree. I use Bobcats 95% of the time. I know their roster, their stats, their shot releases.

I have some "go-to" plays I call. Pick and pop with Henderson; Baseline double with Gordon.

I regularly beat the Heat, Thunder, Bulls, Knicks users.

Do you beat them online? Though i will agree, you can beat these teams. Its just that its really frustrating. Especially when your playing right and the other guys is playing like a complete idiot, just running around until he finds an open three or a lane to the basket.

Again, I disagree. The Bobcats are hardly "mid-tier" but I still play solid D.

I completely disagree, it is impossible to play solid D in this game, unless you use zone alot. But 1on1 D in this game is almost completely useless, basically the player with the ball still can go wherever they want, its just that when you play D on them it slows them down alot more, and occasionally forces them to pick up there dribble. Dudes like lebron are nearly impossible to keep from making a dunk unless your cpu team actually decides to play smart for a while and pack the paint to keep from dunks being made(which hardly ever happens).

I will say at best solid 1 on 1 D(which is a major problem in this game) in this game is like average defense in the nba. Man to man is next to useless though, and good luck keeping melo, lebron, kd, or kobe to a low feild goal %. Cuz for some reason 2k thinks that shooting 50% from 3 and 70% from the field is realistic, even with just average D being played.

[quehouston]

Re: High powered teams.

I am a Sixers/Bulls user online. My record currently is 76-15.

I'm a sim player, and accustomed to playing in sim leagues and running plays, playing on-ball defense, etc. In the past I could take mid tier teams and beat the Lebron cheesers with ease. But there's something about 2k13....

I still get the wins, but they come in such a frustrating fashion. People that play like basketball-illiterate idiots are a lot tougher to beat this year. Sometimes I can be winning, and still feel the urge to quit because I'm being cheated beyond belief. I really believe its due to 2k taking the casual approach. ANYONE can pick up this game and dominate out of the box. Remember back in 2k9-2k11 when we had to lab in practice mode to learn and develop strategies, if we really wanted to be good? Yea, that's almost laughable now.

I think we can officially say to 2k is an arcade title rather than a simulation. It's basically NBA Jam with nice graphics.

[InRodWeTrust]

Re: High powered teams.

Cheesers are gonna cheese. I always use midtier teams (Mostly the Kings) against my friends who actually know how to play sim basketball. I never even play online unless its against someone I know who plays sim.

[ksuttonjr76]

I am a Sixers/Bulls user online. My record currently is 76-15.

I'm a sim player, and accustomed to playing in sim leagues and running plays, playing on-ball defense, etc. In the past I could take mid tier teams and beat the Lebron cheesers with ease. But there's something about 2k13....

I still get the wins, but they come in such a frustrating fashion. People that play like basketball-illiterate idiots are a lot tougher to beat this year. Sometimes I can be winning, and still feel the urge to quit because I'm being cheated beyond belief. I really believe its due to 2k taking the casual approach. ANYONE can pick up this game and dominate out of the box. Remember back in 2k9-2k11 when we had to lab in practice mode to learn and develop strategies, if we really wanted to be good? Yea, that's almost laughable now.

I think we can officially say to 2k is an arcade title rather than a simulation. It's basically NBA Jam with nice graphics.

Hell yes! I used to practice offline for hours perfecting my shot release, learning isomotion moves, and getting used to the defensive controls. From there, I would play unranked games to see what's this year's "cheese" is, then move to ranked matched.

I had winning percentages in the middle 60's in 2K9 and 2K10. I peaked in the lower 70's in 2K11. Since then, I'm barely hovering above 50%, and I've been busting my butt trying to learn this game while my opponents play like idiots.

2K11 was the only game where I could methodically play defense, and methodically tear apart the defense.

[thedream2k13]

Re: High powered teams.

Hell yes! I used to practice offline for hours perfecting my shot release, learning isomotion moves, and getting used to the defensive controls. From there, I would play unranked games to see what's this year's "cheese" is, then move to ranked matched.

I had winning percentages in the middle 60's in 2K9 and 2K10. I peaked in the lower 70's in 2K11. Since then, I'm barely hovering above 50%, and I've been busting my butt trying to learn this game while my opponents play like idiots.

2K11 was the only game where I could methodically play defense, and methodically tear apart the defense.

and I still be whooping up on those pacers

[dtyjdytujhu]

Re: High powered teams.

They can be beat but your right,

[dtyjdytujhu]

Re: High powered teams.

I think we can officially say to 2k is an arcade title rather than a simulation

[poopoop]

Re: High powered teams.

Seeing people say things "like player skill means nothing, just pick high powered teams and murder everyone" is whiny exaggeration. If it's that easy, any of these so called "skilled players" should easily be able to win every game just by picking a strong team. But of course saying that leads to cliches like "but but I play the game the right way" or "I don't want to pick a strong team." Who cares?

Most of the people you run into online are so incredibly bad it's mind boggling. They do not adjust to anything you do. They have basic, limited, obvious strategies. Granted picking a top team covers up some of their mistakes, they still make a lot of fundamental mistakes.

Next time you lose a game instead of blaming it on LeBron dunking through three of your defenders, ask yourself if you did everything else correctly. It's easier to make excuses about things that are beyond your control " I can't win because the game won't let me stop LeBron." It's tougher to be accountable for the things you do wrong. Even if you literally cannot stop LeBron through no fault of your own, there's weaknesses you have that are completely within your power to strengthen.

[bls]

Seeing people say things "like player skill means nothing, just pick high powered teams and murder everyone" is whiny exaggeration. If it's that easy, any of these so called "skilled players" should easily be able to win every game just by picking a strong team. But of course saying that leads to cliches like "but but I play the game the right way" or "I don't want to pick a strong team." Who cares?

Most of the people you run into online are so incredibly bad it's mind boggling. They do not adjust to anything you do. They have basic, limited, obvious strategies. Granted picking a top team covers up some of their mistakes, they still make a lot of fundamental mistakes.

Next time you lose a game instead of blaming it on LeBron dunking through three of your defenders, ask yourself if you did everything else correctly. It's easier to make excuses about things that are beyond your control " I can't win because the game won't let me stop LeBron." It's tougher to be accountable for the things you do wrong. Even if you literally cannot stop LeBron through no fault of your own, there's weaknesses you have that are completely within your power to strengthen.

This post makes absolutely no sense. If you play online you see the bull. Shots that shouldn't drop, drop all the time online no matter the defense. Its the difficulty settings along with tje signature skills and theirs no denying that.

How are you gonna put the game on a lower difficulty and then give a player thats getting the ball passed to him an increase on his shot because someone has floor general, the guy that passed him the ball has dimer, he gets an increase because he spots up and not to mention hes in his hot spot. Thats laughable and highly unrealistic.

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[ksuttonjr76]

Seeing people say things "like player skill means nothing, just pick high powered teams and murder everyone" is whiny exaggeration. If it's that easy, any of these so called "skilled players" should easily be able to win every game just by picking a strong team. But of course saying that leads to cliches like "but but I play the game the right way" or "I don't want to pick a strong team." Who cares?

Most of the people you run into online are so incredibly bad it's mind boggling. They do not adjust to anything you do. They have basic, limited, obvious strategies. Granted picking a top team covers up some of their mistakes, they still make a lot of fundamental mistakes.

Next time you lose a game instead of blaming it on LeBron dunking through three of your defenders, ask yourself if you did everything else correctly. It's easier to make excuses about things that are beyond your control " I can't win because the game won't let me stop LeBron." It's tougher to be accountable for the things you do wrong. Even if you literally cannot stop LeBron through no fault of your own, there's weaknesses you have that are completely within your power to strengthen.

Let's see...

I rarely go for steals.
I use the right stick in the paint.
I use LT for more aggressive blocks on the perimeter.
I try to "follow" the ballhandler with light "feathering" of the left stick.
I use the stance feature to funnel players right into Hibbert.
I always watch the passing lanes, so I can ICON switch to pick off the pass.
I make changes in the coach settings depending on my opponent.
I use Paul George on the prominent scoring threat.
I only double team near halfcourt, and in the paint.
I manually close out on shooters.
I use the d-pad for quick defensive plays.
In RARE circumstances, I might play zone to clog the paint.

Oh yeah, I call timeouts too. Does this sound like someone who doesn't know anything about defense? IRL, I'm that rare player who cares more about defense and rebounding than offense. I strongly believe that good defense trumps good offense most times than not. I also believe that defense begins on the perimeter and is about keeping players out of the paint.

In online matches, it's not about how you play defense. It's the fact that the game doesn't REWARD you for your efforts. Do you really think that people complain about players abusing the 3PT shot, but they didn't make ANY attempts to adjust? Come on, son.

Lebron dunks over three players, but it's the defensive players' fault? How is that possible?

[ksuttonjr76]

This post makes absolutely no sense. If you play online you see the bull. Shots that shouldn't drop, drop all the time online no matter the defense. Its the difficulty settings along with the signature skills and theirs no denying that.

How are you gonna put the game on a lower difficulty and then give a player thats getting the ball passed to him an increase on his shot because someone has floor general, the guy that passed him the ball has dimer, he gets an increase because he spots up and not to mention hes in his hot spot. Thats laughable and highly unrealistic.

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Basically three offensive boost from one play...could be four if Highlight Reel or Posterizer was used on the play before. It's a wrap if the player has shooting ratings above 85.