High powered teams.

[quehouston]

Re: High powered teams.

Seeing people say things "like player skill means nothing, just pick high powered teams and murder everyone" is whiny exaggeration. If it's that easy, any of these so called "skilled players" should easily be able to win every game just by picking a strong team. But of course saying that leads to cliches like "but but I play the game the right way" or "I don't want to pick a strong team." Who cares?

Most of the people you run into online are so incredibly bad it's mind boggling. They do not adjust to anything you do. They have basic, limited, obvious strategies. Granted picking a top team covers up some of their mistakes, they still make a lot of fundamental mistakes.

Next time you lose a game instead of blaming it on LeBron dunking through three of your defenders, ask yourself if you did everything else correctly. It's easier to make excuses about things that are beyond your control " I can't win because the game won't let me stop LeBron." It's tougher to be accountable for the things you do wrong. Even if you literally cannot stop LeBron through no fault of your own, there's weaknesses you have that are completely within your power to strengthen.

While this could be the case, there are instances where you are completely BS'd. A good player can play great D 98% of the game against a bad player, but still struggle to break the game open because of the combination of Sig Skills, spin layups, and force field dunks. People can try to justify the situation by blaming it on the player that "plays the right way", but NO ONE can deny the issues 2k has had as of late.

[poopoop]

Re: High powered teams.

Let's see...

I rarely go for steals.
I use the right stick in the paint.
I use LT for more aggressive blocks on the perimeter.
I try to "follow" the ballhandler with light "feathering" of the left stick.
I use the stance feature to funnel players right into Hibbert.
I always watch the passing lanes, so I can ICON switch to pick off the pass.
I make changes in the coach settings depending on my opponent.
I use Paul George on the prominent scoring threat.
I only double team near halfcourt, and in the paint.
I manually close out on shooters.
I use the d-pad for quick defensive plays.
In RARE circumstances, I might play zone to clog the paint.

Oh yeah, I call timeouts too. Does this sound like someone who doesn't know anything about defense? IRL, I'm that rare player who cares more about defense and rebounding than offense. I strongly believe that good defense trumps good offense most times than not. I also believe that defense begins on the perimeter and is about keeping players out of the paint.

In online matches, it's not about how you play defense. It's the fact that the game doesn't REWARD you for your efforts. Do you really think that people complain about players abusing the 3PT shot, but they didn't make ANY attempts to adjust? Come on, son.

Lebron dunks over three players, but it's the defensive players' fault? How is that possible?

It's not important what you say you do, it's important what you actually do. Let you tell it you play picture perfect defense but despite you doing everything right, you still get a negative result. All I'm saying is I highly doubt that is the case. If you're seriously doing all that and still cannot stop people you'd probably be better off just playing vanilla D and making no changes.

I'm not even good at NBA 2K and still manage to win the majority of my games despite me rarely picking high powered teams.

[poopoop]

Re: High powered teams.

While this could be the case, there are instances where you are completely BS'd. A good player can play great D 98% of the game against a bad player, but still struggle to break the game open because of the combination of Sig Skills, spin layups, and force field dunks. People can try to justify the situation by blaming it on the player that "plays the right way", but NO ONE can deny the issues 2k has had as of late.

NBA 2k is not 100% realistic, obviously there are some issues with the game. That is not the point. We are all on an even playing field, the issues affect both you and your opponent equally. The only difference from one play to the next is what they're doing on this playing field. I guarantee you there are users online that are able to play above-average, to good, to great defense.

What are they doing that other people aren't? It's the easy way out to blame the game when your opponent has to deal with the same flaws you do.

People get too caught up with the idea of "sim" thinking that means the game is supposed to look exactly like an NBA game. That's only true if BOTH players are using strategies that are close to what NBA teams actually do. This is rarely going to happen in any sports game. Most people don't, can't, or won't. You have to account for the fact your opponents want to do things like run around in circles with LeBron all game.

The second your opponent deviates from what a normal NBA team does, you also have to. To adjust to whatever hair-brained strategy they are running. It doesn't matter if I try to play defense like the real-life Pacers if my opponent doesn't play offense like the real life Heat. Real NBA coaches would abandon their standard gameplay the second they ran into an opponent who used some "non sim" strategy.

[poopoop]

Re: High powered teams.

This post makes absolutely no sense. If you play online you see the bull. Shots that shouldn't drop, drop all the time online no matter the defense. Its the difficulty settings along with tje signature skills and theirs no denying that.

How are you gonna put the game on a lower difficulty and then give a player thats getting the ball passed to him an increase on his shot because someone has floor general, the guy that passed him the ball has dimer, he gets an increase because he spots up and not to mention hes in his hot spot. Thats laughable and highly unrealistic.

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So they should put the game on a higher difficulty where players get attribute boosts to make the game more realistic?

[quehouston]

NBA 2k is not 100% realistic, obviously there are some issues with the game. That is not the point. We are all on an even playing field, the issues affect both you and your opponent equally. The only difference from one play to the next is what they're doing on this playing field. I guarantee you there are users online that are able to play above-average, to good, to great defense.

What are they doing that other people aren't? It's the easy way out to blame the game when your opponent has to deal with the same flaws you do.

People get too caught up with the idea of "sim" thinking that means the game is supposed to look exactly like an NBA game. That's only true if BOTH players are using strategies that are close to what NBA teams actually do. This is rarely going to happen in any sports game. Most people don't, can't, or won't. You have to account for the fact your opponents want to do things like run around in circles with LeBron all game.

The second your opponent deviates from what a normal NBA team does, you also have to. To adjust to whatever hair-brained strategy they are running. It doesn't matter if I try to play defense like the real-life Pacers if my opponent doesn't play offense like the real life Heat. Real NBA coaches would abandon their standard gameplay the second they ran into an opponent who used some "non sim" strategy.

It's not about the strategy you use or playing sim, it's about 2k catering to the super teams. Yes, we are all on a level playing field as far as how we approach the game, but in game 2k tilts the matches in Miami/OKC's favor. People that used average teams in the past are having a tougher time beating the elite teams, simply because of sig skills, or other forces beyond our control.

[poopoop]

Re: High powered teams.

It's not about the strategy you use or playing sim, it's about 2k catering to the super teams. [b]Yes, we are all on a level playing field as far as how we approach the game, but in game 2k tilts the matches in Miami/OKC's favor.[b] People that used average teams in the past are having a tougher time beating the elite teams, simply because of sig skills, or other forces beyond our control.

This is true in real life as well. Of course things are going to be tilted in Miami/OKC's favor. Of course if you have an average team it's tough to beat elite teams.

If Phil Jackson or Popovich takes over the Bobcats they aren't going to start giving LeBron fits. The NBA moreso than say the NFL, is about the talent on your roster.

[OkayC]

Re: High powered teams.

This is true in real life as well. Of course things are going to be tilted in Miami/OKC's favor. Of course if you have an average team it's tough to beat elite teams.

If Phil Jackson or Popovich takes over the Bobcats they aren't going to start giving LeBron fits. The NBA moreso than say the NFL, is about the talent on your roster.

Yea but if u play with an elite team but still play like an idiot that what your saying shouldn't hold true. You can't honestly tell me that we should still be beaten or have a harder time with beating someone using Miami when there shooting fadeway fade way 3s with dwade and crap like that. I still win games like that, but it shouldn't be a close game if your opponent is gonna play like an idiot. IDC what team hes using.

[ksuttonjr76]

It's not important what you say you do, it's important what you actually do. Let you tell it you play picture perfect defense but despite you doing everything right, you still get a negative result. All I'm saying is I highly doubt that is the case. If you're seriously doing all that and still cannot stop people you'd probably be better off just playing vanilla D and making no changes.

I'm not even good at NBA 2K and still manage to win the majority of my games despite me rarely picking high powered teams.

I'm telling you what I do on defense, yet you're telling me that I don't play that way? Okay....So, I'm some schizophrenic gamer who has no clue what going on with the controller in my hand? Basically, I just pick up the controller, stare at the screen, and play defense with mind while drooling on myself?

[ksuttonjr76]

NBA 2k is not 100% realistic, obviously there are some issues with the game. That is not the point. We are all on an even playing field, the issues affect both you and your opponent equally. The only difference from one play to the next is what they're doing on this playing field. I guarantee you there are users online that are able to play above-average, to good, to great defense.

What are they doing that other people aren't? It's the easy way out to blame the game when your opponent has to deal with the same flaws you do.

People get too caught up with the idea of "sim" thinking that means the game is supposed to look exactly like an NBA game. That's only true if BOTH players are using strategies that are close to what NBA teams actually do. This is rarely going to happen in any sports game. Most people don't, can't, or won't. You have to account for the fact your opponents want to do things like run around in circles with LeBron all game.

The second your opponent deviates from what a normal NBA team does, you also have to. To adjust to whatever hair-brained strategy they are running. It doesn't matter if I try to play defense like the real-life Pacers if my opponent doesn't play offense like the real life Heat. Real NBA coaches would abandon their standard gameplay the second they ran into an opponent who used some "non sim" strategy.

Truth be told, no one plays defense online. All they're doing is playing high scoring games NBA Jam style, and the player with the most points win.

No cares about being "sim" defensively. It's about rewarding people who put in work to learn how to play defense, instead of rewarding the bum who jacks up 30+ 3's per game. If I play Pacers level defense, then ONLY way you should be able to beat me is to play smart basketball.

[OkayC]

Re: High powered teams.

Truth be told, no one plays defense online. All they're doing is playing high scoring games NBA Jam style, and the player with the most points win.

No cares about being "sim" defensively. It's about rewarding people who put in work to learn how to play defense, instead of rewarding the bum who jacks up 30+ 3's per game. If I play Pacers level defense, then ONLY way you should be able to beat me is to play smart basketball.

And thats the problem with the game. You don't have to play sim, or anything near it to win. Basically the long and short of it is. just jack up enough shots and you can beat anybody. thats all online play is, and thats why i don't play it. I like realistic play, most people don't play realistic, so i stopped playing altogether.

Don't get me wrong, some games i do get sim players, and i lose. That i dont mind. I just hate losing to the fadeway 3 cheesing, dunk on 50 defenders using, blake griffin mid range with a hand in his face shooting, idiots.

[JA Money14]

I typically dont have too much trouble

I like the bobcats on line..

I don't think the problem stems from top-tier teams being overpowered. I think it's an issue of too many other players picking heat and knicks.

Tbh, though. I have been smacked by teams like the pacers online just as much as I've beaten the heat or thunder the best way to pick a team is by randomly choosing.

Mixes it up for me.

[WizardJay]

Re: High powered teams.

Are the Bulls a high powered team?

[quehouston]

Yea but if u play with an elite team but still play like an idiot that what your saying shouldn't hold true. You can't honestly tell me that we should still be beaten or have a harder time with beating someone using Miami when there shooting fadeway fade way 3s with dwade and crap like that. I still win games like that, but it shouldn't be a close game if your opponent is gonna play like an idiot. IDC what team hes using.

And that is basically the answer to the argument. Skill and basketball knowledge should beat the opposite, any day. I hope one day 2k can be 100% skill based, like Halo.

[GOGO head ray]

Re: High powered teams.

Are the Bulls a high powered team?

No,Bit D.rose by himself makes them a high powered team. I didn't lose to D. rose shaking me or blowing by me getting into the paint. I lost to D.rose because he was hitting off balanced threes at a high clip with a hand in his face.

[bls]

Re: High powered teams.

So they should put the game on a higher difficulty where players get attribute boosts to make the game more realistic?

How do you get attribute boost with the difficulty higher? Sliders are lowered