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  • Bwnarrow3
    Pro
    • Jan 2008
    • 526

    #166
    Re: Which Fixes and Tweaks Are Needed For NBA 2K14? Post Them Now For 2K Team-Up

    Guys I have a couple ideas, and I know it's long but give it a shot and let me know what you think of these.

    Spacing issues have already been highlighted but I want to do an even better job of summing it up here.

    Constantly when using the LB to call a pick and roll, teammates that should be spotting up behind the three point line will stand far too close to the pick and roll action thus jamming up the lane. For instance: A lineup of Rubio, Martin, Budinger, Love and Pekovic, for example, when running a pick and roll with Pekovic and Rubio; Love, Budinger, and Martin should all surround the three point line while Rubio and Pekovic run the pick and roll to effectively maximize the opportunity to drive the lane and pick apart the defense.

    To be even more specific; using the previous example, if Rubio is double teamed at the top of the key on a pick and roll by the hedge man and the on ball defender, the defender from the weak side should come crash the lane to help a rolling Pekovic going toward the basket. This would shine a beautiful light on Ricky's passing ability as he could fire it into the short corner for an open shot if the defender helped enough.

    Help schemes in the NBA are the most significant operation of an NBA defense when countering an effective, floor spacing offense. A team such as Minnesota or San Antonio should have a terrific time penetrating the lane because of the respect that the deep shooters demand on the outside. On the contrary, a team such as Charlotte with MKG and Henderson on the wings, or Memphis with Tony Allen and Tayshaun Prince, should have a much trickier time maneuvering the lanes and prodding the defense for open shots.

    This is precisely where the more finer tweaks to the passing game need to be upgraded this year. In addition to spacing, there needs to be more specific and precise off ball cuts to the basket this year to highlight the skill level of effective passing big men. Players such as the Gasols, Noah, Monroe, David Lee, etc can cause a defense nightmares through their proficiency in operating from the high post in real life. However, few plays actually succeed in effectively highlighting their skill level in 2K13. In 2K13 it is nearly impossible to record high assist levels from big men simply because when operating from the high post there is an incomplete amount of off ball movement. When working with a player such as David Lee from the elbow, the option is limited to either a pull up or a drive into what will most likely be a clogged lane and forcing up a contorted shot over the trees.

    I would love to see more movement in these situations, specifically involving plays around dribble handoffs. Players such as Harden, Paul George, and Bradley Beal excelled in the dribble handoffs when working with Nene and David West, (and Nick Collison at the time for Harden), and I would love to see it being replicated in 2K. For instance: Nene has the ball on the right elbow. Beal comes around the baseline chased by a defender to be denied the original handoff from Nene that would have gone into the lane, but quickly cuts the other way into the corner for an open Corner three. These plays, while not the bread and butter of most NBA offenses, are still very effective, and can maximize the skills of some skilled big men in the NBA. Please 2K, create more opportunities for big guys to work off of the elbow to highlight their offensive effectiveness.

    Marc Gasol is not effective by crashing offensive boards as 2K portrays him now, rather, he's effective hitting Tayshaun Prince on the baseline cut, Tony Allen on the outlet pass, and Mike Conley on the handoff at the top of the key.
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    • Coach2K
      Hall of Fame
      • Mar 2012
      • 1702

      #167
      Re: Which Fixes and Tweaks Are Needed For NBA 2K14? Post Them Now For 2K Team-Up

      I'd like to see a couple of things. My apologies if they have already been said.

      1. Between quarters and at half I'd like to have time to make adjustments like a time out instead of going right into gameplay.
      2. When I take the ball out on the side, it's annoying to see my point guard go all the way to other side of the court only for me to have to use 2 seconds or so to bring him all the way back right in front of the inbounder so I can make a safe pass.
      3. A portable profile I can take with me from mode to mode.
      4. More control over my playbook assigning plays to players instead of to positions.
      5. A more flexible timer in association mode.
      6. Play diagrams in team up mode if we want to run plays from the playbook.
      7. It's pretty easy for people to score off of out of bounds plays from the baseline, be nice if it was a little tougher.
      8. Online quick match difficulty be upped to hall of fame simulation sliders.
      9. Ability to import/modify your own rosters in online association.
      10. Ability to see stats from the game in teamup
      11. During a timeout in team up, ability to see the game situation, score, time left.
      12. Your guys rushing to block out when you are on defense like they do for the guys on the offensive side of the ball.
      13. In practice mode, it would be nice to do shooting practice similar to free throw practice that gives you a rebounder and stats on perfect releases and misses and makes.
      14. Create your own plays option
      15. Ability to create your own team in your own town with your own custom arena that you could take online against others.
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      • thedream2k13
        MVP
        • Jan 2013
        • 1507

        #168
        Re: Which Fixes and Tweaks Are Needed For NBA 2K14? Post Them Now For 2K Team-Up

        I want the game to require practice to be good at. I want playbooks to be a nessessity along with post play, I want defensive bigs like asik to provide help defense on guards driving to the basket, I want star players to NOT be given super powers that make them hit every contested shot, I want online to be competitive for once with balance on offense and defense ............ I want it ALL
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        • TeriyAkin
          Rookie
          • Jul 2012
          • 62

          #169
          Defense and player movement, really need some work... Transition D and players bumping into each other are ******** and need massive upgrades... almost everything about defense needs tweaks. I hope they focus on defense more cuz defensive teams should really feel more defensive (pacers, grizzlies, bulls...) imo

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          • nddot
            Pro
            • Sep 2012
            • 611

            #170
            Re: Which Fixes and Tweaks Are Needed For NBA 2K14? Post Them Now For 2K Team-Up

            FIX THE ONLINE ASSOCIATION !!

            the mode is flawed with glitches and bugs (1year 0$glitch, players disapearing from the league)
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            • Melbournelad
              MVP
              • Oct 2012
              • 1559

              #171
              Re: Which Fixes and Tweaks Are Needed For NBA 2K14? Post Them Now For 2K Team-Up

              Originally posted by kongemeier
              Please make the AI atleast somewhat decent with team management. We shouldn't have to run 30 team control to get realistic smart decisions. I hate CPU teams drafting PGs in the first round 3 years in a row.

              Also, like real life, a small market team like the Jazz are forced to build through the draft while teams like the Lakers can attract the big starts in free agency. This would be awesome to have in the game as well.
              This. Should of been the first priority for the dev team this year considering it is NOT a hard feature to fix compared to graphics and gameplay, yet it adds so much more to association.

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              • dragula15
                Rookie
                • Mar 2011
                • 368

                #172
                Re: Which Fixes and Tweaks Are Needed For NBA 2K14? Post Them Now For 2K Team-Up

                1. Change steal to a button other than the shoot button
                The amount of times I've stolen the ball and not instantly realised I've knocked it loose, and my player had thrown the ball from the other side of the court because square is both steal and shoot. Here's an idea - map steal to Circle and take charge to Square.

                2. Deepen Total Sim Control, and make it more noticeable.
                I just can't tell if this is a placebo feature or not. If I make someone the first option on offence, he sure as hell should be the leading scorer on his team. Flesh it out with further options. You could even integrate the broken coach profiles into it

                3. Speaking of coach profiles, the ones like Size - Speed, Forwards - Guards etc need to either be described in full what they influence or removed because I just can't see what they effect

                4. Fix the run plays slider

                5. Make association records more true to life - I shouldnt be mid season with more than half the league at or around .500 and stacked teams like the clippers and Knicks sitting at something like 10-25

                6. Just plain spend more time on association. It's been needing an overhaul for years. Games like live '06 on onwards had a lot of useful gm/scouting/FA/trade mechanisms that would be simple to recreate and use effectively

                7. Update player personalities ie: loyalty, play for contender etc
                Add different types as well. I can think of in addition to the 3 existing:
                Play for contender: existing
                Loyalty: existing
                Money: existing
                Playing time:
                Play for good coach:
                Play in big market:
                Etc etc

                8. Similar to live 10. Make it so you can set a teams season goal from: Rebuilding, Contending, Playoff push, etc

                9. Hopefully, full dleague integration and correct CBA rules and exceptions.

                10. Include things like S&Ts, contract buyout dates, guaranteed vs non guaranteed contracts. 10 day contracts that actually work, and those players stats are recorded as games played unlike this year. Players sitting in free agency should be more willing to accept a 10 day contract for certain teams...you can barely even offer a guy like Damion James a 10 day contract because even though he's rated about 66 ovr and not sitting on a roster currently, because of his age and potential and wants $4m a year.

                11. Sim stats need to be looked at critically....no way does chris Paul average only 5 assists a game with the team he has now.
                Blocks, assists and rebounds really need to be addressed

                Edit:

                12: on a lesser note, I want to actually see the team and player records section of association updated to reflect the last 3 years. It seems it hasn't been touched since 2k11 for example: in the 2011 playoffs, Jason Terry tied the NBA record for most three in a playoff game with 9. Now, he shouldn't override the previous occupant, but on the Dallas Mavicks single playoff game slide, he should be the Mavs' record holder for that stat. Also Nik Vucevic's overtaking Shaq for Orlandos most rebounds

                13: if you're going to allow us to start the season half way through the season with real life stats, things like season highs should be shown instead of not at all. If this is an easy fix it should be implemented. Eg: it shows Nikola Vucevic's 29 rebounds in his recent games slide, but in season high it is whatever then next simmed or user played game high is. Kinda deflates an awesome performance if a) you can't reflect on it, and b) no way can you replicated 29 boards in 2k basketball.

                14: since I'm such a stat whore, I understand if CAP players, or hidden players later added to the roster can't have their real life season stats applied to them, but maybe somehow make it so for example, if Alan Anderson is added to the roster after tye game releases, his real life statistics should be attached to his name, and perhaps his birth date (ie: data that is concrete and can't be altered in game).
                That way, stats are mapped to each respective player, regardless of how they are put in the game.
                There is little excuse why guys like Prigioni, Copeland, Anderson, M. James, G. temple couldn't have had their stats reflected in 2k13 if the game had recognised their name and a second data set to apply stats to.

                It just makes association more realistic when you can jump in halfway and 99% of the stats you want to see are there. I can excuse user added CAPs, but 2ks added players should also have this functionality
                Last edited by dragula15; 08-05-2013, 09:26 AM.

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                • Melbournelad
                  MVP
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 1559

                  #173
                  Re: Which Fixes and Tweaks Are Needed For NBA 2K14? Post Them Now For 2K Team-Up

                  Originally posted by dragula15
                  1. Change steal to a button other than the shoot button
                  The amount of times I've stolen the ball and not instantly realised I've knocked it loose, and my player had thrown the ball from the other side of the court because square is both steal and shoot. Here's an idea - map steal to Circle and take charge to Square.

                  2. Deepen Total Sim Control, and make it more noticeable.
                  I just can't tell if this is a placebo feature or not. If I make someone the first option on offence, he sure as hell should be the leading scorer on his team. Flesh it out with further options. You could even integrate the broken coach profiles into it

                  3. Speaking of coach profiles, the ones like Size - Speed, Forwards - Guards etc need to either be described in full what they influence or removed because I just can't see what they effect

                  4. Fix the run plays slider

                  5. Make association records more true to life - I shouldnt be mid season with more than half the league at or around .500 and stacked teams like the clippers and Knicks sitting at something like 10-25

                  6. Just plain spend more time on association. It's been needing an overhaul for years. Games like live '06 on onwards had a lot of useful gm/scouting/FA/trade mechanisms that would be simple to recreate and use effectively

                  7. Update player personalities ie: loyalty, play for contender etc
                  Add different types as well. I can think of in addition to the 3 existing:
                  Play for contender: existing
                  Loyalty: existing
                  Money: existing
                  Playing time:
                  Play for good coach:
                  Play in big market:
                  Etc etc

                  8. Similar to live 10. Make it so you can set a teams season goal from: Rebuilding, Contending, Playoff push, etc

                  9. Hopefully, full dleague integration and correct CBA rules and exceptions.

                  10. Include things like S&Ts, contract buyout dates, guaranteed vs non guaranteed contracts. 10 day contracts that actually work, and those players stats are recorded as games played unlike this year. Players sitting in free agency should be more willing to accept a 10 day contract for certain teams...you can barely even offer a guy like Damion James a 10 day contract because even though he's rated about 66 ovr and not sitting on a roster currently, because of his age and potential and wants $4m a year.

                  11. Sim stats need to be looked at critically....no way does chris Paul averaging only 5 assists a game with the team he has now.
                  Blocks, assists and rebounds really need to be addressed
                  I wish i could like a post more than once.

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                  • dragula15
                    Rookie
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 368

                    #174
                    Re: Which Fixes and Tweaks Are Needed For NBA 2K14? Post Them Now For 2K Team-Up

                    I can see why they don't include a lot of the technical CBA contractual exceptions and stuff like that: for the casual player it's a bit jarring to have to micromanage all this stuff that some 12 year old kid doesn't understand.

                    That said, if they really care, they could make a "sim" association mode, and have the current dumbed down mode available to play alongside season mode.

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                    • mellamoaaron
                      Rookie
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 104

                      #175
                      Re: Which Fixes and Tweaks Are Needed For NBA 2K14? Post Them Now For 2K Team-Up

                      Need to fix the passing lanes in this game. Passing is nowhere near it's real life counterpart. Especially on the perimeter. Also strength needs to come into play more, if I am using a guy like Carmelo, LeBron, or Muscle Chestbrook and I am guarded by a guy that I am heavier than and stronger than, I should be able to dominate him in the post and on the drive. It seems like there is way too much resistance from weaker guys on drives and post ups.
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                      • KyotoCarl
                        MVP
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 3827

                        #176
                        Don't have the CPU take a timeout after the first stoppage in the game after your my player gets on the court after being on bench.



                        Tweak offensive rebounds so you

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                        • thedream2k13
                          MVP
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 1507

                          #177
                          Re: Which Fixes and Tweaks Are Needed For NBA 2K14? Post Them Now For 2K Team-Up

                          just realized this thread should be deleted. 2k teamup is over
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                          • Vni
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 14832

                            #178
                            Re: Which Fixes and Tweaks Are Needed For NBA 2K14? Post Them Now For 2K Team-Up

                            Originally posted by thedream2k13
                            just realized this thread should be deleted. 2k teamup is over
                            Is it really? No news about anything yet?

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                            • thedream2k13
                              MVP
                              • Jan 2013
                              • 1507

                              #179
                              Re: Which Fixes and Tweaks Are Needed For NBA 2K14? Post Them Now For 2K Team-Up

                              Originally posted by Vni
                              Is it really? No news about anything yet?
                              they are currently under a NDA and cannot speak until 2k tells them to
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                              • vtcrb
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                                • Nov 2006
                                • 10289

                                #180
                                Re: Which Fixes and Tweaks Are Needed For NBA 2K14? Post Them Now For 2K Team-Up

                                Originally posted by Vni
                                Is it really? No news about anything yet?
                                I dont think they were allowed to say anything. Supposed to be BIG announcement coming soon.
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