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  • mango_prom
    Pro
    • Oct 2008
    • 737

    #181
    Re: NBA 2K14 Features New Blocking System, Includes the Ability to Block Dunks

    Originally posted by yungsta404
    eraser is just a type of shot blocker that tries to spike the ball as hard as possible and send it to the 5th row instead of keeping it inbounds. Guys like javale mcgee and deandre jordan are notorious for doing that.
    It's not even that. The eraser skill only has an effect after a block. It decreases the attributes of the guy who got rejected. The same with posterizer, which boosts the ratings of teammates after the dunk. So I don't see why we need some eraser/posterizer thing in 2k14. Don't we have enough attributes to account for that already? If a player has high defensive awarenes, blocking, and maybe vertical and strength, he should be an "eraser" by definition. No need for these childish gimmicks imo.
    The same with dunks.
    If you have dunk/vertical maxed out in addition to flashy dunk packages, this will make you "posterize" defenders quite often. So what do we even need those sig skills for if the rating system works as it should?

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    • Sundown
      MVP
      • Oct 2010
      • 3270

      #182
      Making a Posterizer's dunk unblockable even if they're trying to dunk on a 7 footer with high block rating, good timing and position but no sig skill is dumb

      Increasing the likelihood of an eraser blocking a dunk is good.

      Decreasing the likelihood of a Posterizer getting their dunk blocked is good.

      Binary in off impossible to block sig skills are dumb.
      Last edited by Sundown; 08-11-2013, 08:01 AM.

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      • mango_prom
        Pro
        • Oct 2008
        • 737

        #183
        Re: NBA 2K14 Features New Blocking System, Includes the Ability to Block Dunks

        Originally posted by Sundown
        Making a Posterizer's dunk unblockable even if they're trying to dunk on a 7 footer with high block rating, good timing and position but no sig skill is dumb

        Increasing the likelihood of an eraser blocking a dunk is good.

        Decreasing the likelihood of a Posterizer getting their dunk blocked is good.


        Binary in off impossible to block sig skills are dumb.
        But there are dunk and block ratings already in the game. So why would you need these sig skills at all? Is there anything this would add to the game we can't reproduce with already existing ratings and animation packages?

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        • Da_Czar
          NBA 2K Gameplay Producer, Offensive AI System - SIM NATION
          • Jul 2002
          • 5408

          #184
          Originally posted by mango_prom
          But there are dunk and block ratings already in the game. So why would you need these sig skills at all? Is there anything this would add to the game we can't reproduce with already existing ratings and animation packages?
          You would miss the teammate/stamina boosts that you get when the special skill guy does his thing.

          Also for things like chasedown the boosts are situational. So that a guy doesnt have boosted speed and block ratings all game only when and where its nexessary to have a higher % chance of actually seeing tha chasedown.

          I know you were referring to that particilar one but it was the best example I could think of to answer your question of if this could be accomplished without abilities.
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          • iLLosophy
            Plata o Plomo
            • Sep 2005
            • 3673

            #185
            Re: NBA 2K14 Features New Blocking System, Includes the Ability to Block Dunks

            Does this new blocking system imply a new shooting foul/mid-air contact system?

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            • Jrocc23
              MVP
              • May 2010
              • 3206

              #186
              Re: NBA 2K14 Features New Blocking System, Includes the Ability to Block Dunks

              Originally posted by RyanFitzmagic
              Since when are the only two options here "Block dunk" and "Get posterized"? FOH.
              Yes, the two options most likely come down to a "blocked dunk" or what you are saying, since he's not an "Eraser" it's impossible to block the dunk so he gets "posterized". He also could foul him and hope he misses. But you are saying, if anyone (besides an Eraser) jumps to block a posterizers dunk, they should automatically be unsuccessful lol. Like I was saying, you telling me that it would be impossible for LeBron to block anyone that has Posterizer? Durant, Hakim Warrick and all those guys should either be fouled or dunk on LeBron because someone that could be deserving doesn't have it. Sounds so dumb and arcadey.

              Originally posted by RyanFitzmagic
              Westbrook is definitely not a posterizer. There are only a few in the league-- Blake Griffin, Kevin Durant, maybe Dwight Howard if he returns to form, and that's pretty much it. There's no way you can argue anybody else except maybe healthy Derrick Rose.
              You can't argue Westbrook who is the same or maybe even more athletic than a healthy Derrick Rose? That's another problem, Eraser and Posterizer SS's could be argued. Adding that idea to some people who could easily be a posterizer or Eraser would be silly. 2K has a lot more than 3 and that would be more players dunks you cannot block. Like Josh Smith, Amare Stoudemire, McGee, Derrick Williams etc. And other players who could easily have it like Iguodala, JR Smith, Shannon Brown etc. Since you say Kevin Durant someone who currently isn't a posterizer. Here's a video since you think he could easily be one:

              <iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/s-JebdQ4xps?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
              Kevin Durant, one of the guys you say thats a posterizer blocked by Jason Smith. Smith currently has like a 58 blocking rating. I guess if KD had the SS posterizer, this would have never happened lol.

              Originally posted by RyanFitzmagic
              You're just playin yourself now. JR Smith is not an amazing in-game dunker. He only dunked period 30 times in 80 games last year. I'll be damned if he's a posterizer.
              You're missing the point. And JR Smith could be a posterizer imo. JR Smith is close to being one and he is here getting his shot blocked by a 6'1" PG. You're telling me that there's no way possible someone that's a posterizer cannot be blocked by a PF or C that's close to 7' that had great position and timing? It should be rare, but never happen? C'mon lol. Just answer my question, do you believe it's impossible for someone that's a "Posterizer" to be blocked by someone that's not really an emphatic shot blocker?

              Originally posted by RyanFitzmagic
              Too bad that footage ain't from 2013.
              What's your point? Stoudemire was easily one of the best posterizers in Phoenix. I am sure Emeka Okafor would have still only had Scapper and Bruiser.


              Originally posted by RyanFitzmagic
              Congratulations. You found one anomaly. Anyone who knows logic would realize that a single outlier doesn't make a formula completely inaccurate.
              See Tim Duncan again. I am telling you that it's possible. You're saying that a person w/ the Posterizer SS shouldn't be able to be blocked at all, unless the other guy has an Eraser SS. Just admit, your "formula" is unrealistic.

              Originally posted by RyanFitzmagic
              Then what's your point?
              I am doing most of this from my phone. So I made a mistake. 2K13 does not have Tim Duncan as an "Eraser". So should Timmy just be punched on by Blake Griffin?

              Originally posted by RyanFitzmagic
              Know what else is impossible? Knocking a player down by setting a screen if you don't have "Brick Wall." smfh 2K. jrocc says step ya game up and stop wit that "impossible" ish.
              Exactly. I would have a much bigger problem with your idea, than 2K separating great screen setters.*Even though, it's possible for other screeners to knock someone down.

              Originally posted by RyanFitzmagic
              It's pretty hard to be a "flashy" shot-blocker. Eraser is more about giving the shot-blocker's team momentum and taking momentum from the other team by making emphatic blocks that send a message, which Russell and Duncan did very often. I'd give both of them Eraser in a heartbeat.
              You would give Duncan eraser in 2012? It's debatable. But that's my point, some players doesn't have Eraser like Duncan. So in 2K, if Tim tried that block, he would have most likley got dunked on because he doesn't have that SS and Blake has Posterizer. FOH.
              Last edited by Jrocc23; 08-11-2013, 11:38 AM.
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              • stillfeelme
                MVP
                • Aug 2010
                • 2406

                #187
                Re: NBA 2K14 Features New Blocking System, Includes the Ability to Block Dunks

                There should be no rules for only an eraser can block a posterizer. That's just silly. Blocks seem like they are going to be about timing and rating.


                Eraser
                Example Players: Dwight Howard, Josh Smith, Serge Ibaka
                A player with this skill is known for protecting the rim with emphatic, crowd pleasing blocks. When an Eraser swats a shot, he boosts the energy of his teammates and decreases the shooting attributes (up to six points) of the player he blocked for up to a minute and a half.


                Posterizer
                Example Players: Blake Griffin, Josh Smith, Hakim Warrick
                A player with this skill will often look to dunk on defenders when attempting a dunk in traffic. To get this skill to trigger there must be a defender in the vicinity. To force big-time contact dunks, his stamina must be above 80. Once the dunk completes, his teammates will be given a temporary energy boost.

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                • NvME
                  Rookie
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 123

                  #188
                  Re: NBA 2K14 Features New Blocking System, Includes the Ability to Block Dunks

                  Originally posted by RyanFitzmagic
                  Stop. Just stop. Kobe was never a posterizer.
                  How old are you?

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                  • oxide
                    Rookie
                    • Dec 2005
                    • 243

                    #189
                    Re: NBA 2K14 Features New Blocking System, Includes the Ability to Block Dunks

                    Correct me if I'm wrong but i could have sworn I used to be able to block dunks in some NBA 2k game??? I remember vividly player in the post getting rejected??

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                    • hear me now
                      Pro
                      • Nov 2011
                      • 754

                      #190
                      Re: NBA 2K14 Features New Blocking System, Includes the Ability to Block Dunks


                      That song should be in the game.

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                      • RyanFitzmagic
                        MVP
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 1959

                        #191
                        Re: NBA 2K14 Features New Blocking System, Includes the Ability to Block Dunks

                        I'll say this-- I guarantee if this happened with a Posterizer, 90% of y'all would be cryin like little girls.

                        <iframe src="//www.youtube.com/embed/JKDG65T8t7Y?rel=0" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" width="560"></iframe>

                        But then y'all tryin to say that a rock-paper-scissors system is a terrible idea? FOH.

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                        • Jrocc23
                          MVP
                          • May 2010
                          • 3206

                          #192
                          Originally posted by RyanFitzmagic
                          I'll say this-- I guarantee if this happened with a Posterizer, 90% of y'all would be cryin like little girls.

                          <iframe src="//www.youtube.com/embed/JKDG65T8t7Y?rel=0" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" width="560"></iframe>

                          But then y'all tryin to say that a rock-paper-scissors system is a terrible idea? FOH.
                          See? It is possible. Mostly everyone in here disagreed with you about it being impossible for someone that's not an Eraser to block a Posterizers dunk.

                          Mostly everyone is saying that it should rarely happen, but it still should have that possibility factor, especially if the timing and position is right. Don't you agree with that after the vid you just posted?


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                          • Jrocc23
                            MVP
                            • May 2010
                            • 3206

                            #193
                            Originally posted by hear me now
                            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReXjhVBG8S0
                            That song should be in the game.
                            Man, this song reminds me too much of the good ole NBA Street (Guessing Volume 2).


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                            • shayellis
                              Rookie
                              • Jul 2010
                              • 371

                              #194
                              Re: NBA 2K14 Features New Blocking System, Includes the Ability to Block Dunks

                              What I think everyone is forgetting or just unaware of is that in nba 2k13 you cant block any shot unless it leaves the offensive players hand or its a canned animation block. If u can block dunks in 2k14 but cant block anything else before it leaves the offensive players hand, that would be very unrealistic
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                              • RyanFitzmagic
                                MVP
                                • Oct 2011
                                • 1959

                                #195
                                Re: NBA 2K14 Features New Blocking System, Includes the Ability to Block Dunks

                                Originally posted by Jrocc23
                                See? It is possible. Mostly everyone in here disagreed with you about it being impossible for someone that's not an Eraser to block a Posterizers dunk.

                                Mostly everyone is saying that it should rarely happen, but it still should have that possibility factor, especially if the timing and position is right. Don't you agree with that after the vid you just posted?
                                Who said it was impossible? I said in the game it should be impossible. A lot of things that NBA players do in real life aren't possible in 2K.

                                Like I said, let Ginobili or somebody block a Dwight Howard dunk, and see if people don't start girlin and stuff.

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