Nba2K14 (CG) - Flashing passes - Cheese

[Optik]

Re: Nba2K14 (CG) - Flashing passes - Cheese

Forget flashy passing for a second. Passing into (or whilst in) the paint has been too easy for too long now. They should lower the default passing accuracy slider online. That's one of the problems with the so-called 'Simulation' slider setting that LD2K, is praising so much - the only things that are affected are the shooting and contact sliders. Passing accuracy will remain at 50, and passes (such as the Tom Brady passes to a team-mate in traffic, the passes from the perimeter to a big man directly underneath the rim but clearly guarded, the passes to a player going out of bounds and the passes whilst in the paint) that have no business being completed but do anyway, will still be completed keeping the game arcadey. Of course, you could always set up an OA where you could control the sliders and have a true simulation game, but it won't affect quick ranked and it won't prevent the 2K's simulation slider set from being arcadey.

[benson_bone]

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Unrealistic yes
Cheesy exploit...NO

Someone throwing constant flashy passes will not be the reason I lose games so I can't consider that a exploit.

It may be painful to watch Tyson Chandler throw a ricky rubio type pass tho lol

Cheese... YES.

I find it truly saddening that these things have to be explained and spelled out to so many people. But that's beside the point.

To me it's not because it's a flashy pass, but because it's a pass (flashy or not) that rifles straight through the paint and in front of defenders. I've said this before since it has happened in most of the footage i've seen.

I'll go step by step to explain it as simple as i possibly can:
1) Drive to the side of the paint
2) Pass the ball to a teammate on the other side of the paint
3) The ball travels in between 2 or 3 defenders
4) The defenders look at the ball and don't react
5) Your teammate catches the ball in position for a dunk
(i guess it's basically the lead pass all over again)

Even if your teammate wouldn't be in position it would be bad. In the leaked gameplay videos i've seen there were tons of horrible passes thrown through or just outside the paint which made me cringe and which would put an old coach in serious jeopardy of a heart attack. Passes that should get picked off and lead to fastbreak opportunities.

It's beyond me how something so obvious doesn't get caught by testers. I assumed this was going to happen the moment i first heard about the new passing system. Once the first gameplays started leaking i saw it was even worse than i thought.

As far as your reasoning of why i won't be an exploit... Bad passers and ballhandlers being able to pass out of potential turnovers (or bad situations in general) WILL lose you games.

[DDubbzz]

Re: Nba2K14 (CG) - Flashing passes - Cheese

I'll keep this as short as possible...

An Unrealistically accurate flashy pass does not equal a guaranteed basket. We have the option to block it, force contact, foul, etc.... Just because it didn't happen in the nene example doesn't mean it's impossible.

Also, watch 10 NBA games from last season and lemme know how many terrible passes that SHOULD HAVE been tipped, stolen, gone out of bounds, etc actually we're completed. It's part of the game in real life, wait until you've played to determine if it's an exploit or "cheese". In their time with the celtics, I can recall countless flashy passes coming from both shaq and kg, not he greatest passers ever but they are professionals.... Not mindless drones who don't now how to do things outside of their job descriptions.

Just because they don't do I game doesn't mean they can't.
Please see 1:47 mark if video for pass in crowded paint for easy basket on lazy d by nene

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hq8oi5Y_ngI

Not supposed to happen all the time but not cheese, unless you consider this cheese in real life as well

[Optik]

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An Unrealistically accurate flashy pass does not equal a guaranteed basket. We have the option to block it, force contact, foul, etc....

I shouldn't have to block it, force contact, foul, etc. When someone like Nene makes a pass like that (and that is a Magic-type pass), it should either go straight into the 12th row, go straight out of bounds, hit someone's head and go out of bounds or hit Nene in the head. It shouldn't go into someone's hands safely.

Just because it didn't happen in the nene example doesn't mean it's impossible.

Despite this being obviously such a weak argument, for some reason it still gets repeated around here. Nene shouldn't even be able to do that pass. He shouldn't be able to trigger that kind of animation. We need to have passing packages in addition to dribble and dunk packages.

Also, watch 10 NBA games from last season and lemme know how many terrible passes that SHOULD HAVE been tipped, stolen, gone out of bounds, etc actually we're completed.

I'm sorry, is this supposed to be an argument? The burden of proof is on you. You made the (wrong) claim. You do the research.

It's part of the game in real life, wait until you've played to determine if it's an exploit or "cheese".

No. I will not, and I don't need to. This is another crappy argument that still gets repeated as if the poster was serious. I don't need to play the game to critique this when I can see it right in front of me. Full court game-winning buzzer beaters are part of the game too, and yet they hardly ever happen. These flashy passes are connecting with unrealistic accuracy far too often, and you're pretending this is normal.

In their time with the celtics, I can recall countless flashy passes coming from both shaq and kg, not he greatest passers ever but they are professionals

You didn't see them do what Nene did. That's for sure.

Please see 1:47 mark if video for pass in crowded paint for easy basket on lazy d by nene
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hq8oi5Y_ngI

This doesn't support your lazy argument. Nene on 2K was throwing a no-look pass behind his head. In the RL video, Nene looked at the cutter all the time, and the pass wasn't even flashy, neither was the pass that risky. The cutter was clearly open and his defender was on the other side of him and had no chance of stealing the ball.

[phillysportsboi]

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I just love how people keep complaining about the game without having actually played it. We don't know what level this guy is on at all. For all we know, he might be on Pro default settings.

LOL....unfortunately this type of mindset floats around on fourms and the such. ppl who speak as if what there saying is fact, and yet they have not even tried the product themselves. lmao...whatever makes them feel better about themselves I guess.

[OkayC]

Re: Nba2K14 (CG) - Flashing passes - Cheese

LOL....unfortunately this type of mindset floats around on fourms and the such. ppl who speak as if what there saying is fact, and yet they have not even tried the product themselves. lmao...whatever makes them feel better about themselves I guess.

whats funny is how the weak argument gets passed around year after year, and year after year, those complainers are usually right. LOL fanboys

[The 24th Letter]

Right, just like the 2k11 gameplay video complaints that paint defense would be impossible because of canned layups...lol

[Seidowskyy]

Re: Nba2K14 (CG) - Flashing passes - Cheese

If its true that someone tries to abuse certain move or play this year

defense should adjust , thats what they said,

so we'll see

[DETERMINOLOGY]

Re: Nba2K14 (CG) - Flashing passes - Cheese

People will always find a way to cheeze and make the game look bad..Its common for gaming

[OkayC]

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Right, just like the 2k11 gameplay video complaints that paint defense would be impossible because of canned layups...lol

Skipped 2k11, got madden instead that year, don't know about that. That claim was apparently a year or 2 ahead of its time though, LOL.

[boltokPwnage04]

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the pass from NeNe in that gameplay vid was suspect

[Vni]

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They forgot about Nene's incredible passing abilities in this one.

[Vni]

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Watching this got me so hype to play some Nba2K14 for some reasons.

I will definately have to regroup the big three to enjoy the improved spacing/passing.

[TeeDogg]

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They forgot about Nene's incredible passing abilities in this one.

Notice how the d was just standing there in a lot of those passes thru traffic? I hope the NBA can patch that. ; )

[Vni]

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Stern can do amazing things.