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  • sirjam
    MVP
    • Oct 2002
    • 3535

    #181
    Re: NBA 2K14 Advanced Controls (PS3, X360)

    Originally posted by Monarch 420
    I guess i did somerhing less flashy, with fake to baseline and half spin to fadeaway. I can upload a video if you like (i guess i'll eat that hat)
    yes please do. how did you do it?

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    • Monarch 420
      Pro
      • Jun 2013
      • 565

      #182
      Re: NBA 2K14 Advanced Controls (PS3, X360)

      Originally posted by sirjam
      yes please do. how did you do it?
      Its on my arena link. I guess i did fake up and down with rs and shot with rs away from basket

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      • sirjam
        MVP
        • Oct 2002
        • 3535

        #183
        Re: NBA 2K14 Advanced Controls (PS3, X360)

        Yeah I can do that. I talked to shake and concluded that those smooth spins and such are only in next gen. Btw if u hold rt and move right stick in different ways u will get nice dbl shimmy fakes and such. Try it u will like it

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        • sirjam
          MVP
          • Oct 2002
          • 3535

          #184
          Re: NBA 2K14 Advanced Controls (PS3, X360)

          Also do u know how to do the protect the post shot? If u go to edit player and look at the moves it shows them but nowhere does it say how to do it

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          • Monarch 420
            Pro
            • Jun 2013
            • 565

            #185
            Re: NBA 2K14 Advanced Controls (PS3, X360)

            Yeah, i figured that wasn't close, sorry dude. I'm a limited deffender, just try to get in the way, lol

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            • Jingle Johnson
              Rookie
              • Dec 2013
              • 14

              #186
              Re: NBA 2K14 Advanced Controls (PS3, X360)

              (Xbox One)
              The in game tutorial shows how to make offensive off -ball moves but it never explains how to assume control of a non-ball handling teammate. Anyone ?

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              • bakesalee
                Pro
                • Feb 2008
                • 596

                #187
                Re: NBA 2K14 Advanced Controls (PS3, X360)

                Originally posted by Jingle Johnson
                (Xbox One)
                The in game tutorial shows how to make offensive off -ball moves but it never explains how to assume control of a non-ball handling teammate. Anyone ?
                Frustrated too!

                Is the ability to switch to an off-ball player during offense, and in a regular head-to-head game missing from NBA 2k14? There are off-ball moves in the tutorial but it initially appears that this ability is missing from what should be the most important game mode of all: regular head-to-head games, online and offline.

                On paper (literally, in the instruction book) NBA2K has had similar, or nearly identical controls to Mike Wang's off-ball control from NBA Live 10 since Wang returned to 2K for NBA2k11 - but they've quite literally never worked. This is such a sore spot!

                Mike Wang's offensive offball controls (watch Mike Wang demonstrate these controls in this video) in NBA Live 10 in my opinion, were the most innovate, intuitive/fluid, brilliant, fun, and realistic addition to any sports video game since I started playing games in the late 1980's. It finally opened up video basketball to allow real basketball to take place. I could never pin my finger on what exactly was missing from video basketball until I saw this. It opened everything, and every possibility.

                I'm not waxing poetic here when I can say with confidence that this feature was nothing short of ground-breaking. Naturally we humans will think, read, and "see" basketball opportunities faster than can be translated into a button-commanding execution, so this is EXACTLY what is needed to fluidly transition a thought in your mind into instant execution on the court.

                It let's you play "real basketball" and seize opportunities in real time. More importantly it creates opportunities for completely organic situations. If I had to sum up my urgency in one sentence for this feature it would be: It was one of the all-too-few sports game moments where you can proudly proclaim "I DID THAT!" What could be better than to read and react at will, and in completely organic situations in a sports game? Is there anything more satisfying or rewarding than that? That's the one characteristic that we all hope and seek for in video game competition bliss.

                Picture these actual scenarios that I pulled off back then. I'm playing online, the lane is unclogged and I see nobody guarding Jason Richardson - so I'd take control of Jason Richardson (2010 mind you), cut through the open lane, call for the ball and lay it up. It was intuitive. I didn't even have to think! I saw what needed to happen and made it happen, instantly.

                Or take this example. I'm watching a lot of Suns and taking notice that Grant Hill was automatic from midrange in real life that year. So I'm playing online, I'm ready to get Hill involved after a certain point. I'd take control of Grant Hill, call for a screen, run to an open spot, call for the ball, and drain the open 15-footer because that's what I saw on TV when I watched my Suns. That's another part of this whole thing for me - it's honestly just wanting to recreate what I see in real life.

                This feature was the biggest reason I could recreate what I saw on TV against opponents. Additionally, it just adds the ability to "create a play" while freelancing. Sometimes, when you're on offense and nothing's going on to your liking, what could be better than organically producing a real life basketball play on the fly?

                The shot clock is rapidly winding down, you've got 4 seconds and panic. What's more satisfying, intuitive, and more importantly, realisitic then performing what I've described instead of chucking an ill-advised ugly shot?

                It let you create unique, organic, one-of-a-kind plays and on-command. Every situation completely unique. It's an option drenched in REALISM that lends itself to REAL basketball. That's why it was fun, because it let me play in real time.

                It was like listening to hair-metal and Boy George for 10 years and suddenly Nirvana comes on the radio for the first time. It was like "holy crap, I didn't know we needed this, but now I can't live without it. This is the only way!"

                Just from a marketing standpoint alone, it would be profitable to tout this "all possibilities are open" control. All sports video games have been trying to get to that point for years and years: unique, one-of-a-kind moments that factor in speed, momentum, etc. That's a HUGE draw. Well I'm telling you, it already exists! Mike Wang already created this and it's in NBA Live 10. EA may own the rights to however it worked properly, but no doubt - they do not own this fundamental basketball principle.

                In addition to the "open world" possibilities, an experienced real-life player or long-time NBA fan should translate into an advantage sometimes, if only for that one possession/opportunity if/when presented. This off-ball control is a true evolution in the right direction: my basketball mind seamlessly and instantly turning an idea or opportunity from my brain into an executed move on-screen That's basketball! See something? Make it happen right now. Being given the ability to read and react at will is extremely empowering yet does no harm or does not skew the balance, and should trump mastering "the code" or the video game. I thought we were really moving forward with that!

                Not trying to whine, I'm just extremely passionate about this feature. It is SO important. As a full grown adult and parent, I'm not going to lose any sleep over this, and over the past 12 hours have started to accept that this may not be in the game. All I ask is that Beluba acknowledges that yes, this is important, and should be an upcoming priority.
                Last edited by bakesalee; 12-15-2013, 03:32 PM.

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                • UWfan206
                  Banned
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 1096

                  #188
                  Re: NBA 2K14 Advanced Controls (PS3, X360)

                  Thanks beluba!

                  Sent from the emerald city

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                  • sirjam
                    MVP
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 3535

                    #189
                    Re: NBA 2K14 Advanced Controls (PS3, X360)

                    Originally posted by UWfan206
                    Thanks beluba!

                    Sent from the emerald city
                    did i miss his reply?

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                    • Johnny2k5
                      Just started!
                      • Dec 2013
                      • 1

                      #190
                      Re: NBA 2K14 Advanced Controls (PS3, X360)

                      How do you control an off-ball player on offense when you're feeling creative?

                      It used to be LB, player icon, RB.

                      This was removed?

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                      • Vni
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 14833

                        #191
                        Re: NBA 2K14 Advanced Controls (PS3, X360)

                        Originally posted by Johnny2k5
                        How do you control an off-ball player on offense when you're feeling creative?

                        It used to be LB, player icon, RB.

                        This was removed?
                        I'am not exactly sure but tbh it doesn't matter since you can't ask for the ball once you're where you want to be with the off ball offensive player so there is basically no point wich is a real shame. That's one thing I would like to see beeing patched gameplay wise.

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                        • brockman44
                          Just started!
                          • Nov 2013
                          • 6

                          #192
                          Re: NBA 2K14 Advanced Controls (PS3, X360)

                          Originally posted by madmax17
                          Why do controls seem unresponsive at times, I'm a center and some maniac is riding into my turf, head down driving to the rim, I press Y for that sweet block and sometimes they just don't jump*!"#$ other times they jump to late, or they jump for the block AFTER the foul is called?!

                          Biggest flaw to an otherwise great b-sim, unfortunately it's kinda of a big deal it happens to often, players stuck in animations as well when trying to go for the rebound.
                          I have this problem with a few guys; one notable is Roy Hibbert. I will press triangle when boxing out and he just won't jump. It mostly happens when he's fatigued, but that doesn't mean guys stop rebounding, especially Hibbert

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                          • brockman44
                            Just started!
                            • Nov 2013
                            • 6

                            #193
                            Re: NBA 2K14 Advanced Controls (PS3, X360)

                            Originally posted by Johnny2k5
                            How do you control an off-ball player on offense when you're feeling creative?

                            It used to be LB, player icon, RB.

                            This was removed?
                            Yes, I believe so. It's a shame because I loved controlling post men to get a good look in the post. I.e fronting, spinning off, etc.

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                            • Thee Sneakerhead
                              Rookie
                              • Feb 2014
                              • 9

                              #194
                              Re: NBA 2K14 Advanced Controls (PS3, X360)

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                              • Thee Sneakerhead
                                Rookie
                                • Feb 2014
                                • 9

                                #195
                                Re: NBA 2K14 Advanced Controls (PS3, X360)

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