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  • Colts18
    MVP
    • Feb 2010
    • 1959

    #136
    Re: 2K will crack to the casuals. I can see it already....

    Played a cheeser last night. He was reaching but I was using the Y-button protect. He had 2 fouls with LeBron and 1 with Wade in the first minute. He quit immediately.

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    • Sundown
      MVP
      • Oct 2010
      • 3270

      #137
      Re: 2K will crack to the casuals. I can see it already....

      Originally posted by VDusen04
      Question about that: do players still do a good job of getting their feet behind the line when they're supposed to? We might be referring to two different issues. 2K used to have a problem (maybe in, like, 2K11 and earlier) where players who should be squaring up behind the line would often step on the line (particularly from the corner). I'm supposing you're not referring to that.
      Yes they do. I have had zero problems with that and didn't notice that the 3pt sliding feature was removed. I make it rain with the splash brothers.

      I know the problem you're taking about in past 2ks. Possibly 2k8. I know the slide-behind-the-3 feature was something I liked when I used to have the problem but I just don't anymore in 2k14 without it. I don't know if I've just played enough years to be able to navigate around the line better or because players end up in the right spots but it's perfectly fine. Add this years quick step back and there's no excuse for screwing up on the line. And when you occasionally do, it's rather realistic because it does happen in real life.

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      • ViolenceFight
        MVP
        • Jun 2013
        • 1141

        #138
        Re: 2K will crack to the casuals. I can see it already....

        Originally posted by Sundown
        Yes they do. I have had zero problems with that and didn't notice that the 3pt sliding feature was removed. I make it rain with the splash brothers.

        I know the problem you're taking about in past 2ks. Possibly 2k8. I know the slide-behind-the-3 feature was something I liked when I used to have the problem but I just don't anymore in 2k14 without it. I don't know if I've just played enough years to be able to navigate around the line better or because players end up in the right spots but it's perfectly fine. Add this years quick step back and there's no excuse for screwing up on the line. And when you occasionally do, it's rather realistic because it does happen in real life.
        The slide behind the 3pt line is really only super noticeable in online Blacktop. That's only because in 2k13 if you were standing on the line and needed to clear the ball before shooting, you would auto slide out, square up, and pop the shot. I tried it probably 2 times before I realized it doesn't exist, and had to learn about the Turbo+RS Away step back move. It's a non issue anyway, In shakes video he mentions a hypothetical situation where your trying to hit a buzzer beating game winner, and end up with a tie because of the no-auto-stepback. One could argue that on a Buzzer Beater you're going to be running your guys in whatever offense they need so that they plant themselves behind the arc.
        Female Russell Westbrook.

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        • hear me now
          Pro
          • Nov 2011
          • 754

          #139
          Re: 2K will crack to the casuals. I can see it already....

          Originally posted by EarvGotti
          Lol yet another one. 2K really made a beautiful game with 2K14 this year. This video really shows how little these "Youtubers" know about 2K basketball. All you have to do is change your defensive settings to make your team play tight D. You also should lower your help defense slider if you dont want guys coming over and helping in the paint. I bet he did none of that. Also on that pass that Lebron through away, Dwight Howard was right in front of the ball. What is he talking about? Mistakes like that happen in real life. It's called mis-communication.

          Nobody wants to take the time to learn things and make adjustments these days. They just expect to pick up the game, follow the same cheesy habits from past years and dominate right away. That's definitely not basketball. It's about strategy, development and adjustments. Devs, thank you so much for NBA 2K14.
          Yeah I wanted to comment on that too. Chalmers moved because he was trying to get open.He should have just tried to get up a shot with LeBron too.
          Last edited by hear me now; 10-04-2013, 10:38 AM.

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          • Goffs
            New Ork Giants
            • Feb 2003
            • 12279

            #140
            Re: 2K will crack to the casuals. I can see it already....

            Originally posted by Colts18
            Played a cheeser last night. He was reaching but I was using the Y-button protect. He had 2 fouls with LeBron and 1 with Wade in the first minute. He quit immediately.
            Great to hear! Those reachers have it coming! This is great stuff and the tears from the youtubers just makes my day!

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            • SoAwesome
              Banned
              • Mar 2011
              • 473

              #141
              Re: 2K will crack to the casuals. I can see it already....

              Enjoy this while it last because us cheese players will not allow this to stand. We are 2k biggest consumers and we will not allow this game to be ruined. Defense being way too overpaid, every drible becomes a loose ball, pratically impossible to drive into the lane. Game has literally become all defense and no offense, no fun in that. Next patch should fix all this nonsense and make 2k a great once again.

              Also stop telling me to buy NBA Jam, the game blows.

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              • imdahman
                Pro
                • Jul 2004
                • 574

                #142
                Re: 2K will crack to the casuals. I can see it already....

                I love the feel of this game. It may have topped out graphics-wise for this gen, and that's a valid observation, but under the hood this baby plays like REAL ball. Defense is so damn important and there are no easy outs. Every time I get beaten on the dribble, I know that it was MY fault for riding him too close and/or not moving well enough to get in front of him. When I make that mistake, the ball handler gets his points, it's that simple.

                When I get better I'm REALLY looking forward to some of the defensive battles I want to have, oh man...
                - Imdahman

                "The two most important days in your
                life are the day you are born and the day
                you find out why.”


                - Mark Twain

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                • imdahman
                  Pro
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 574

                  #143
                  Re: 2K will crack to the casuals. I can see it already....

                  Originally posted by SoAwesome
                  Enjoy this while it last because us cheese players will not allow this to stand. We are 2k biggest consumers and we will not allow this game to be ruined. Defense being way too overpaid, every drible becomes a loose ball, pratically impossible to drive into the lane. Game has literally become all defense and no offense, no fun in that. Next patch should fix all this nonsense and make 2k a great once again.

                  Also stop telling me to buy NBA Jam, the game blows.
                  This man is not representative of all Raptors fans.
                  - Imdahman

                  "The two most important days in your
                  life are the day you are born and the day
                  you find out why.”


                  - Mark Twain

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                  • Colts18
                    MVP
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 1959

                    #144
                    Re: 2K will crack to the casuals. I can see it already....

                    Originally posted by Goffs
                    Great to hear! Those reachers have it coming! This is great stuff and the tears from the youtubers just makes my day!
                    Post some links to the YouTube tears please. Would love to hear what they are talking about

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                    • Optik
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2012
                      • 1025

                      #145
                      Re: 2K will crack to the casuals. I can see it already....

                      Originally posted by SoAwesome
                      Enjoy this while it last because us cheese players will not allow this to stand. We are 2k biggest consumers and we will not allow this game to be ruined. Defense being way too overpaid, every drible becomes a loose ball, pratically impossible to drive into the lane. Game has literally become all defense and no offense, no fun in that. Next patch should fix all this nonsense and make 2k a great once again.

                      Also stop telling me to buy NBA Jam, the game blows.
                      Get used to it or take your ball and go home.

                      Get over it. You no longer have any power, and the simheads will not allow you to infect this game with your poison. Either adjust or play something else.

                      Go blow smoke up your ***.
                      Originally posted by Dogslax41
                      Most people that are asking for a simulation game don’t really want a simulation game because its too hard.

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                      • stillfeelme
                        MVP
                        • Aug 2010
                        • 2407

                        #146
                        Re: 2K will crack to the casuals. I can see it already....

                        Originally posted by SoAwesome
                        Enjoy this while it last because us cheese players will not allow this to stand. We are 2k biggest consumers and we will not allow this game to be ruined. Defense being way too overpaid, every drible becomes a loose ball, pratically impossible to drive into the lane. Game has literally become all defense and no offense, no fun in that. Next patch should fix all this nonsense and make 2k a great once again.

                        Also stop telling me to buy NBA Jam, the game blows.

                        Haha lol you need to run plays or a simple pick and roll. I bet you are iso'ing in situations in freelance when you shouldn't. The patch you need is to learn that best play option. Also you can play defense too so how is it overpowered. I think you are playing bad.

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                        • JasonWilliams55
                          MVP
                          • Jul 2012
                          • 2045

                          #147
                          Re: 2K will crack to the casuals. I can see it already....

                          These YT peeps are "turrible" (charles barkeley voice).

                          As VNI stated... lets stop giving them views... they are not what OS/SIMnation are about, imo.

                          Small Rant:
                          Spoiler


                          2K if you cater to these peeps...

                          Last edited by JasonWilliams55; 10-04-2013, 11:22 AM.
                          "Most people would learn from their mistakes if they weren't so busy denying them"

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                          • sreckless
                            Rookie
                            • Mar 2012
                            • 342

                            #148
                            Re: 2K will crack to the casuals. I can see it already....

                            Originally posted by JasonWilliams55
                            These YT peeps are "turrible" (charles barkeley voice).
                            What I find funny is that the changes have not even been that drastic.

                            The same cheesy tactics from last year's game (turbo-cross up the court and jack a three, dribble around in circles with your star until a lane opens, 1-3-1 defense) can still be pretty effective, they just work a little bit less often.

                            Even when the offense loses the ball by dribbling into a defender now, it still bounces right back to them 7 or 8 times out of 10.

                            I'm pleased with the changes but to be honest VC could've gone much farther. They were clearly trying to find a middle ground.

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                            • stillfeelme
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 2407

                              #149
                              Re: 2K will crack to the casuals. I can see it already....

                              Most of the complaints are basically cheeser's in disguise lol. They didn't realize they were cheesing but the complaints say what they truly are. These games will eventually be competition gaming worthy.

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                              • NINJAK2
                                *S *dd*ct
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 6185

                                #150
                                Re: 2K will crack to the casuals. I can see it already....

                                Originally posted by SoAwesome
                                Enjoy this while it last because us cheese players will not allow this to stand. We are 2k biggest consumers and we will not allow this game to be ruined. Defense being way too overpaid, every drible becomes a loose ball, pratically impossible to drive into the lane. Game has literally become all defense and no offense, no fun in that. Next patch should fix all this nonsense and make 2k a great once again.

                                Also stop telling me to buy NBA Jam, the game blows.
                                Hold up.....You weren't joking when you made your previous rant?. The sad thing is dudes like you are probably the majority in regards to who buys this game so I am a tad nervous that the complaints by the likes of you and IKC are going to make this game worse...2k desperately needs to bring back lobbies to appease the masses and seperate the "win at all cost guys no matter how lame" from the simheads...
                                Last edited by NINJAK2; 10-04-2013, 02:46 PM.
                                EA and 2k have the unfortunate task of trying to balance on a tightrope of fun and sim while trying not to fall 10,000 feet to their death. Instead of a safety net waiting down below there will just be angry customers quick to move out of the way and talk of their failure.

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