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  • FloorGeneral
    Pro
    • Mar 2004
    • 567

    #46
    Re: Ridiculous Signature Skill

    I think ppl are forgetting how good Bosh was in Toronto. With Bron, Wade and Bosh on the same team, someone has to sacrifice, and we all know it's not gonna be A. The one who has been there the whole time, or B. The best player in the league.

    When one of Bron/Wade miss time, Bosh gets more assertive, and is a very difficult defend. Also, I like Kevin Love, but to compare him to Dirk is blasphemy. I don't care how old Dirk is, putting Love in his class is just wrong. And saying Bosh isn't better than Love at anything is false. Bosh in the Post >>> Love, and they're about equal as far as passing. I'd LOVE (no pun) to see a shootout from 18-20 between them, as I think it'd be pretty entertaining.

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    • Red Kafe
      Banned
      • May 2010
      • 1941

      #47
      Re: Ridiculous Signature Skill

      People have forgotten what Bosh ha: done when he was In Toronto . His post game is way more polished than Loves and mid game . Love is pretty much David Lee with Range . Post game is ok but not better than Bosh's and Dirk .


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      • Red Kafe
        Banned
        • May 2010
        • 1941

        #48
        Re: Ridiculous Signature Skill

        Originally posted by TheRealHST
        At this point, I'm taking Love over Dirk anyday.
        Of course he's younger but if they're the same age you take Dirk. Love numbers are inflated because of his team . Just because you average a lot of points doesn't mean that your game is as polished offensively as other players .


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        • zniv
          Rookie
          • Oct 2012
          • 146

          #49
          Re: Ridiculous Signature Skill

          Originally posted by buggstbone
          Yes, Dirk is a better all around scorer than Bosh and Love. That's a given. But there is no way that Bosh is better than Love at anything.
          Actually, I don't think Love is definitively better than Bosh at anything except rebounding and 3pt shooting.

          There's another half of the game played on the other end, and defensively Love isn't in the same stratosphere as Bosh.

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          • kwabalicious
            Pro
            • Aug 2009
            • 639

            #50
            Re: Ridiculous Signature Skill

            Originally posted by zniv
            Actually, I don't think Love is definitively better than Bosh at anything except rebounding and 3pt shooting.

            There's another half of the game played on the other end, and defensively Love isn't in the same stratosphere as Bosh.
            Bosh doesn't even have a stratosphere on the defensive end. The dude is awful

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            • zniv
              Rookie
              • Oct 2012
              • 146

              #51
              Re: Ridiculous Signature Skill

              Originally posted by kwabalicious
              Bosh doesn't even have a stratosphere on the defensive end. The dude is awful
              ...huh??

              He's one of the best pick and roll big defenders in the game today and a really good post defender. I would post articles on his defense here if it didn't a) derail the topic and b) you would actually take the time to read them, which I kind of doubt. If you can be bothered, go ahead and just google 'Chris Bosh defense' and read anything on the first page of results. Then do the same with Kevin Love and find one that is actually praising his defense.

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              • ST24
                Rookie
                • Oct 2012
                • 75

                #52
                Re: Ridiculous Signature Skill

                Originally posted by kwabalicious
                Bosh doesn't even have a stratosphere on the defensive end. The dude is awful
                Whaaaa?!? Dude obviously has issues guarding centers as big as Roy Hibbert (how would Kevin Love do against him) but his PnR and team defense is well above average. Kevin Love is pretty bad at PnR coverage and defense overall.

                Bosh had a bad finals offensively, but he had some great moments defensively guarding Parker on the PnR, and did a very good job on Duncan in game 7.

                Bosh at this point is a better basketball player than Love. Dirk is better than both, and you take Love going forward over both. But Love is one of those dudes that would gives up rim protection to get in better rebounding position.
                Last edited by ST24; 10-06-2013, 12:59 AM.

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                • ST24
                  Rookie
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 75

                  #53
                  Re: Ridiculous Signature Skill

                  Originally posted by zniv
                  ...huh??

                  He's one of the best pick and roll big defenders in the game today and a really good post defender. I would post articles on his defense here if it didn't a) derail the topic and b) you would actually take the time to read them, which I kind of doubt. If you can be bothered, go ahead and just google 'Chris Bosh defense' and read anything on the first page of results. Then do the same with Kevin Love and find one that is actually praising his defense.
                  Zach Lowe (from Grantland) had an article earlier this year where PGs around the league he talked to said Garnett and Bosh were the two most difficult bigs to deal with in PnR situations.

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                  • ZB9
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 18387

                    #54
                    Re: Ridiculous Signature Skill

                    Originally posted by TheRealHST
                    Would you really take Bosh over Love??? I know you've seen the insane games Love has had in the last few years. Bosh hasnt come close. Dirk?? ... ehhhh... not really.
                    Bosh cant even stay healthy and get his team into the playoffs. Meanwhile, Dirk and Bosh have won the last 3 championships. (Bosh might have been the 3rd guy on Miami, but he's their #1 big man and they wouldn't have won the championship without him)

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                    • Rdub33
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                      • Nov 2006
                      • 123

                      #55
                      Re: Ridiculous Signature Skill

                      Just because Bosh is soft doesn't mean he is not skilled! He is money from 18 and in and if they wanted to feature him as a primary option he would still be a 20 ppg guy. 2k over reacted to a sub par playoff run by bosh but seemingly ignored the obvious decline in d wades game!

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                      • TheRealHST
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                        • Jan 2011
                        • 1755

                        #56
                        Re: Ridiculous Signature Skill

                        Originally posted by Red Kafe
                        Of course he's younger but if they're the same age you take Dirk. Love numbers are inflated because of his team . Just because you average a lot of points doesn't mean that your game is as polished offensively as other players .


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                        NO...Im taking Love because he also rebounds. I dont remember Dirk being a rebounder

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                        • ClevelandFan
                          Rookie
                          • Dec 2011
                          • 466

                          #57
                          Re: Ridiculous Signature Skill

                          Originally posted by MrBigShot1
                          He deserves three out of the four. P&R Maestro, Microwave, Acrobat are all justified.
                          No, stop it. Will Bynum is garbage lol he wouldn't see the court for most teams.

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                          • Red Kafe
                            Banned
                            • May 2010
                            • 1941

                            #58
                            Re: Ridiculous Signature Skill

                            Originally posted by TheRealHST
                            NO...Im taking Love because he also rebounds. I dont remember Dirk being a rebounder
                            Sad part is even with that Love isn't even better than prime Dirk .


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                            • Red Kafe
                              Banned
                              • May 2010
                              • 1941

                              #59
                              Re: Ridiculous Signature Skill

                              Originally posted by ClevelandFan
                              No, stop it. Will Bynum is garbage lol he wouldn't see the court for most teams.
                              He's not garbage , he's a decent back up spark pg . He keeps finding work so he's not that bad . Bulls wanted him


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                              • JazzMan
                                SOLDIER, First Class...
                                • Feb 2012
                                • 13547

                                #60
                                Re: Ridiculous Signature Skill

                                As a Jazz fan, I don't think Favors should have Eraser. He's a great shot-blocker, but they aren't emphatic blocks. Eraser belongs to guys like Sanders, McGee, etc... Hayward should have One Man Fastbreak.

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                                I think before the season's over, Hayward might actually end up getting the Dimer sig. too. He's a hell of a playmaker for us.

                                Monta Ellis having the Closer sig. AGAIN this year is a joke.

                                At this stage in his career, Vince Carter probably shouldn't have Highlight Film.

                                Deron Williams having Catch and Shoot is totally wrong, as well.

                                Joe Johnson NOT having the Closer skill is a shame.

                                Jennings with PNR Maestro is ridiculous.

                                How does somebody as inconsistent as Rudy Gay have 5 skills? Heat Retention? Really?

                                K. Love should have Catch and Shoot for sure, as well as Screen Outlet.
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