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  • dat swag
    Banned
    • Nov 2008
    • 1040

    #46
    Re: Contested shots go in too often while wide open ones do not go in enough

    Originally posted by JasonWilliams55
    Bro I feel ya, cause I try to only play online as well. I, I just don't see the issues many are having (well atleast as often as the perception seems to be), and maybe that is due to me not playing QM that much and only sticking with other OSers to get my games in.
    Its definitely because you stay away from QM and roll with other OS'ers. QM is like a jungle

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    • JasonWilliams55
      MVP
      • Jul 2012
      • 2045

      #47
      Re: Contested shots go in too often while wide open ones do not go in enough

      Originally posted by dat swag
      Its definitely because you stay away from QM and roll with other OS'ers. QM is like a jungle
      Then why keep going back?

      "Most people would learn from their mistakes if they weren't so busy denying them"

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      • stillfeelme
        MVP
        • Aug 2010
        • 2407

        #48
        Re: Contested shots go in too often while wide open ones do not go in enough

        People having problems with this I can only state that you have to keep voicing your opinion until it gets fixed. 2K seems to pay attention to things that get big community feedback in my opinion. Also we should always present a way for them to implement something to work by giving solutions to improve this.
        • The turbo jack up a three pointer should reduce success rates by much more. Shooting off the dribble should be different than shooting off the turbo. Even teams that play at a face pace don't turbo and then shoot a three. That would be the first way to reduce these types of shots.
        • LeBron, Wade and others get tired by expending plenty of energy on offense and defense and usually need a breather at times while still playing. There is a real life reason why players extend themselves on offense and defense for spurts at a time. If they can get this right it will make next gen take it another level.
        • They also need a turbo meter that takes much longer to refill if you use it on back to back possessions. Some of your bigs should also be penalized by you running this pace which should hurt their rebounding effectiveness. The turbo user should also be "winded" on defense for trying to turbo repeatedly on offense. The Madden reference is correct run with your RB a few times and watch as he gets tired.
        • The game has to be smarter about rebounds. A good rebounder doesn't get his numbers on teams taking bad shots. The ratings should matter when positioning but the boards should not just gravitate to the good rebounders no matter what type of shot is put up.
        • 48 threes attempted in 24 minutes of basketball? Someone has to be tired of even shooting right.

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        • ksuttonjr76
          All Star
          • Nov 2004
          • 8662

          #49
          Re: Contested shots go in too often while wide open ones do not go in enough

          Originally posted by The_Throne2K11
          You will notice people that prefer 2K cam because it makes everything easier.. dribbling, defending and shooting. Have someone change camera during the game and you will notice a difference in how you move and shooting will affected also.
          I use the absolute settings, and I've been using the broadcast cam for years. The camera angle is not an excuse for people performing "poorly" when they have the option for other camera angles.

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          • dat swag
            Banned
            • Nov 2008
            • 1040

            #50
            Re: Contested shots go in too often while wide open ones do not go in enough

            Originally posted by JasonWilliams55
            Then why keep going back?

            hence I now have a new $60 drink coaster in my media room

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            • walk with me
              Rookie
              • Apr 2008
              • 106

              #51
              Re: Contested shots go in too often while wide open ones do not go in enough

              my theory on this is that the game defaults to balancing any match up to showing realistic statistics. How many games have you seen someone shoot under 20% from anywhere as a team or someone shoot above 50 or 60%? I've played about 70-80 games now online and I have never seen it.

              so if you start out really hot or really cold the game will handicap that to eventually balance all percentages out to represent somewhere between 30-45%

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              • JasonWilliams55
                MVP
                • Jul 2012
                • 2045

                #52
                Re: Contested shots go in too often while wide open ones do not go in enough

                Originally posted by The_Throne2K11
                You want evidence go find it. Most people you play with play on 2K cam so you wouldn't notice.


                Throne my man... you the one saying it causes a problem, prove it.
                "Most people would learn from their mistakes if they weren't so busy denying them"

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                • Optik
                  MVP
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 1025

                  #53
                  Re: Contested shots go in too often while wide open ones do not go in enough

                  Originally posted by The_Throne2K11
                  And your doubting me, so prove me wrong. The experience is better when both people play on the 2K cam or broadcast
                  Originally posted by Dogslax41
                  Most people that are asking for a simulation game don’t really want a simulation game because its too hard.

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                  • Optik
                    MVP
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 1025

                    #54
                    Re: Contested shots go in too often while wide open ones do not go in enough

                    Originally posted by The_Throne2K11
                    Dude your super immature posting silly little pics. I wasnt even the first to mention the theory in this thread *******.
                    Yes my bad. Clearly making a claim, providing no evidence to support it, then ordering reality-based people to go find the evidence (seeing as your word is infallible) didn't deserve such an immature pic.

                    Unfortunately I couldn't find a more derisory pic for your laughable arrogance and disregard for basic logic.

                    So it'll have to do for the moment.
                    Last edited by Optik; 10-21-2013, 01:29 PM.
                    Originally posted by Dogslax41
                    Most people that are asking for a simulation game don’t really want a simulation game because its too hard.

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                    • JasonWilliams55
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 2045

                      #55
                      Re: Contested shots go in too often while wide open ones do not go in enough

                      Originally posted by The_Throne2K11
                      Dude your super immature posting silly little pics. I wasnt even the first to mention the theory in this thread *******.
                      No you were the 1st to bring up the theory that the camera being different between users is what causes the lag online.
                      "Most people would learn from their mistakes if they weren't so busy denying them"

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                      • Optik
                        MVP
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 1025

                        #56
                        Re: Contested shots go in too often while wide open ones do not go in enough

                        Even for a conspiracy-theorist Throne's arrogance is breathtaking. Even conspiracy-theorists provide some kind of evidence.
                        Originally posted by Dogslax41
                        Most people that are asking for a simulation game don’t really want a simulation game because its too hard.

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                        • JasonWilliams55
                          MVP
                          • Jul 2012
                          • 2045

                          #57
                          Re: Contested shots go in too often while wide open ones do not go in enough

                          Originally posted by dat swag
                          One theory I have about the ability to make shots is the camera angle...For some reason I think people who use the 2K cam have a big advantage over those who do not use it. I personally us the broadcast cam but IMO there is just something cheesy about the 2K cam that I can't put my finger on.

                          I wish 2K would give us online options to play others who have the same settings instead of playing random people on who knows what settings.
                          Why do you think this?

                          Originally posted by ksuttonjr76
                          Broadcast cam, but that's not the problem.
                          Here is a broadcast USER saying its not an issue, or does the issue only apply to Swag and Throne selectively?

                          Originally posted by The_Throne2K11
                          The 2K camera causes lag for people using broadcast.
                          Yep, you were the 1st to claim the camera causes lag. If I missed the other post, please direct me to it.

                          Originally posted by dat swag
                          are you serious?..>If so how have you confirmed this?

                          I had a small feeling that the effectiveness of the 3pt shooting was in someway tied to the 2K camera. I personally use the broadcast Camera.
                          Again, please explain why you think this?

                          I highly highly highly doubt that different camera angles cause issues within gameplay, otherwise you'd always be hearing about it as an issue and I ain't NEVER heard this before, maybe I just never seen it called out, but damn this is a new one on me.
                          "Most people would learn from their mistakes if they weren't so busy denying them"

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                          • JasonWilliams55
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2012
                            • 2045

                            #58
                            Re: Contested shots go in too often while wide open ones do not go in enough

                            Originally posted by The_Throne2K11
                            2K cam causes lag, sliding and other issues. People turboing up the court are doing it on the 2K cam, same with full court passes.



                            Ummmmmmmmmm, so no one on Broadcast turbos up court... or full court passes?

                            Oh and I see 2K cam peeps cause all the sliding issues as well as all other problems with the game....
                            "Most people would learn from their mistakes if they weren't so busy denying them"

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                            • ForeverVersatile
                              Pro
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 3498

                              #59
                              Re: Contested shots go in too often while wide open ones do not go in enough

                              Listen to JW55 and Optik they know everything about everything. SMH
                              PSN: ForeverVersatile
                              Xbox Live: TheBluprint09

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                              • JasonWilliams55
                                MVP
                                • Jul 2012
                                • 2045

                                #60
                                Re: Contested shots go in too often while wide open ones do not go in enough

                                Originally posted by The_Throne2K11
                                Listen to JW55 and Optik they know everything about everything. SMH
                                I know I don't know everything and I am willing to bet that Optik doesn't either.

                                ForeverVersatile ‏<s>@</s>4everVersatile <small class="time"> 21 Oct </small> <s>@</s>Beluba Is it possible that using to different cams online would cause lag. Like someone using the 2K cam and other uses Broadcast?

                                ForeverVersatile ‏<s>@</s>4everVersatile <small class="time"> 21 Oct </small>
                                <s>@</s>Beluba If you could give answer that would be cool. Trying to prove a point on OS. I could be wrong, but that's what it feels like.

                                Mike Wang ‏<s>@</s>Beluba <small class="time"> 9h </small>
                                <s>@</s>4everVersatile shouldn't make a difference what cameras are used online.

                                ForeverVersatile ‏<s>@</s>4everVersatile <small class="time"> 1h </small>
                                <s>@</s>Beluba I see but weird things happen movement wise and I think shooting is affected. I see late animations when I play a 2K cam user.
                                "Most people would learn from their mistakes if they weren't so busy denying them"

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