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  • MarvinOida
    MVP
    • Feb 2012
    • 4859

    #361
    Re: NBA 2K14 Video - Next-Gen Gameplay

    Originally posted by moe242324
    To those saying gameplay looks the same... when you watch real basketball games throughout the NBA season the "game play" looks the same... you know why? Because its basketball.... you cant think the game of basketball is supposed to change... lebron plays like lebron, kobe plays like kobe and the different teams play as theyre supposed to play and the ball goes through the hoop... do you expect basketball to change into soccer where we kick the ball into the net? Maybe that'll change the gameplay for you... SMH
    Do you know what we mean by "looks the same?" It means the same as CG. I don't understand what you're trying to say.


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    • lilteapot
      MVP
      • Aug 2013
      • 4550

      #362
      Re: NBA 2K14 Video - Next-Gen Gameplay



      Chris Smoove with some comments on the gameplay put out. Very interesting.
      Last edited by lilteapot; 10-26-2013, 05:25 PM.

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      • hurricane1
        Banned
        • Oct 2011
        • 13

        #363
        Re: NBA 2K14 Video - Next-Gen Gameplay

        Originally posted by Boilerbuzz
        I swear, the parroting that goes on in forums is straight comedy. I just want to make a couple of comments:

        1. To the fake "reasonable person with valid criticisms" that whine because people "jump down their throat" when they don't say something positive - the only people getting checked are those that go overboard and say things like it's not worth the upgrade. The others are the Live salemen. Truly reasonable criticisms (see Sundown), no one bats an eye.

        2. They demo'ed the difference in foot planting from old gen to next gen at the event, and from all accounts that saw it, there were no complaints. I think some OUTSIDE of VC said "no" sliding. As I've said with even other games; making the claim of *no* foot sliding is idiotic. If it's "noticeably LESS" foot sliding, that's a major upgrade.

        3. Gameplay is the same... Well, ****ing DUH!!! IT'S BASKETBALL!!! What do you expect it to look like? Rugby. People expecting a basketball game to not look like basketball are not too bright. Millions of people are pretty happy with that gameplay. So, if you are waiting for them to change it, buy your coffin. But to say they sit on their gameplay is a straight up lie considering all of the changes that go into their gameplay year after year. Most importantly, the gameplay is supposed to change over the year. Not the weeks between OG and NG. Again, more unrealistic expectations piled on these games.
        I agree with most of your observations and find it interesting watching people who haven't played this game nit pick it to death. Anybody, that has seen this game and/or played this game has loved it. I don't know this for certain, but some of these complaints could be coming from folks who aren't going next gen at this time. I don't know gamers in general seem to be a jaded bunch.

        If i'm going to complain about a game, Its going to be ea. I think they are still talking about the dribble engine.

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        • mrclutch
          MVP
          • Nov 2008
          • 2369

          #364
          Re: NBA 2K14 Video - Next-Gen Gameplay

          Nice vid. Looks great. I was going to say the game play looks the same but that appears to get you roasted. I'll be happy if the gameplay is pretty similar as along as the sliding is significantly improved.
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          • lilteapot
            MVP
            • Aug 2013
            • 4550

            #365
            Re: NBA 2K14 Video - Next-Gen Gameplay

            LOL at the other thread about chris smoove, that guy was so butthurt. If people complain about ANYTHING in the game, there's always someone automatically coming to 2k's defense saying "IT'S A MISTAKE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT REALLY HAPPENS!!!" You people aren't 2k reps so stop acting like someone made fun of your mother when they criticize something about the game. And don't say "It's only with stupid criticisms", no, Smoove had legitimate criticism about the pick and rolls and you decide to blindly defend it. Besides he even said he had to see more gameplay to come to a decision so how about you people calm your jets and accept the fact that a game is a game and games will have mistakes that dont need you to constantly come to their defense as to how it's actually an intentional mistake.

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            • wordtobigbird
              MVP
              • Sep 2008
              • 4385

              #366
              Re: NBA 2K14 Video - Next-Gen Gameplay

              Originally posted by MarvinOida
              Do you know what we mean by "looks the same?" It means the same as CG. I don't understand what you're trying to say.


              Tap Taptalking away from my iPhone 5.... C
              You do realize you SEEING the game you cannot tell how it PLAYS..

              Every gameplay impressions I've heard said that the players FEEL differently. They feel like actual 200 lb athletes and have momentum and what not. Seems like an upgrade from current gen and that will never translate to the EYE.

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              • Boilerbuzz
                D* B**rs!
                • Jul 2002
                • 5154

                #367
                Re: NBA 2K14 Video - Next-Gen Gameplay

                Originally posted by lilteapot
                LOL at the other thread about chris smoove, that guy was so butthurt. If people complain about ANYTHING in the game, there's always someone automatically coming to 2k's defense saying "IT'S A MISTAKE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT REALLY HAPPENS!!!" You people aren't 2k reps so stop acting like someone made fun of your mother when they criticize something about the game. And don't say "It's only with stupid criticisms", no, Smoove had legitimate criticism about the pick and rolls and you decide to blindly defend it. Besides he even said he had to see more gameplay to come to a decision so how about you people calm your jets and accept the fact that a game is a game and games will have mistakes that dont need you to constantly come to their defense as to how it's actually an intentional mistake.
                What is the point of this post? First, why are taking issue with folks that disagree with criticisms? Secondly, what makes you think you have the right to tell people what they can and can't talk about? As long as it's a public forum and it doesn't violate the ToS, folks can say what they want to who they choose. Smoove can have legit criticisms. And folks can have legit rebuttals to them. If you want to accuse folks of being 2K reps, then lets say Smoove is being paid by EA and you are an EA rep (or should I say a Smoove rep). It goes both ways.

                You are right - every game will have issues. And they are discussed pretty extensively here on OS. These useless attempts at muting go both ways. If a thread starts up with a complaint, then it's fair game. End of story.

                As for NG gameplay *looking like* CG, again - as a fan of the gameplay, no way in hell would I want to to BE that different. It's basketball. Basketball doesn't change. Will you complainers not watch the NBA this year - because I'm 100% it'll look the same as it did last year. And the year before that. And so on.

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                • lilteapot
                  MVP
                  • Aug 2013
                  • 4550

                  #368
                  Re: NBA 2K14 Video - Next-Gen Gameplay

                  Originally posted by Boilerbuzz
                  What is the point of this post? First, why are taking issue with folks that disagree with criticisms? Secondly, what makes you think you have the right to tell people what they can and can't talk about? As long as it's a public forum and it doesn't violate the ToS, folks can say what they want to who they choose. Smoove can have legit criticisms. And folks can have legit rebuttals to them. If you want to accuse folks of being 2K reps, then lets say Smoove is being paid by EA and you are an EA rep (or should I say a Smoove rep). It goes both ways.

                  You are right - every game will have issues. And they are discussed pretty extensively here on OS. These useless attempts at muting go both ways. If a thread starts up with a complaint, then it's fair game. End of story.

                  As for NG gameplay *looking like* CG, again - as a fan of the gameplay, no way in hell would I want to to BE that different. It's basketball. Basketball doesn't change. Will you complainers not watch the NBA this year - because I'm 100% it'll look the same as it did last year. And the year before that. And so on.
                  I never told people they couldn't talk about anything, I just said there's an irrational amount of outrage towards people with criticisms about the game, typically in the form of snarky and unnecessary remarks. It hasn't happened to me but I've seen it happen here too much.

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                  • xMAN OF 5TEELx
                    Banned
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 130

                    #369
                    Re: NBA 2K14 Video - Next-Gen Gameplay

                    I see your Chris video and raise you... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duKd...e_gdata_player

                    He was there...he played it...to me sounds like he knows what he's talking about more than the other guy...but in the end, I will hold judgement until I play it myself Nov. 22...all I can say about seeing a video without being extremely presumptuous, is that it looks gorgeous...

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                    • lilteapot
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2013
                      • 4550

                      #370
                      Re: NBA 2K14 Video - Next-Gen Gameplay

                      Originally posted by xMAN OF 5TEELx
                      I see your Chris video and raise you... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duKd...e_gdata_player

                      He was there...he played it...to me sounds like he knows what he's talking about more than the other guy...but in the end, I will hold judgement until I play it myself Nov. 22...all I can say about seeing a video without being extremely presumptuous, is that it looks gorgeous...
                      well yeah, but it's not like chris smoove claimed the game was crap, he said he needed to see more gameplay.

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                      • MarvinOida
                        MVP
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 4859

                        #371
                        NBA 2K14 Video - Next-Gen Gameplay

                        Originally posted by wordtobigbird
                        You do realize you SEEING the game you cannot tell how it PLAYS..

                        Every gameplay impressions I've heard said that the players FEEL differently. They feel like actual 200 lb athletes and have momentum and what not. Seems like an upgrade from current gen and that will never translate to the EYE.
                        I've felt that before with current gen. I just needed to adjust the rosters.

                        I would love to know who said that momentum thing though. Reliable sources would be great. Cause if it's really that in stock, that's good.


                        Tap Taptalking away from my iPhone 5.... C
                        Last edited by MarvinOida; 10-27-2013, 04:06 AM.

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                        • wordtobigbird
                          MVP
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 4385

                          #372
                          Re: NBA 2K14 Video - Next-Gen Gameplay

                          Originally posted by MarvinOida
                          I've felt that before with current gen. I just needed to adjust the rosters.

                          I would love to know who said that momentum thing though. Reliable sources would be great. Cause if it's really that in stock, that's good.


                          Tap Taptalking away from my iPhone 5.... C
                          Lol..sliders do NOT effect the physics at all. You are just slowing the player movement/animation down. You may feel like you are creating that feeling but hands down once you play 2k14 next gen you will realize the difference. There is a new engine. Player movement is different, nothing sliders could recreate. Do you play Fifa?

                          Last edited by wordtobigbird; 10-27-2013, 10:38 AM.

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                          • VDusen04
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 13025

                            #373
                            Re: NBA 2K14 Video - Next-Gen Gameplay

                            Originally posted by Boilerbuzz
                            As for NG gameplay *looking like* CG, again - as a fan of the gameplay, no way in hell would I want to to BE that different. It's basketball. Basketball doesn't change. Will you complainers not watch the NBA this year - because I'm 100% it'll look the same as it did last year. And the year before that. And so on.
                            As with everything, I think the "looks like" line is open for debate. I don't think people are using that line as a means of saying, "Oh man, it looks like it plays a great game of basketball! I wanted something different!"

                            Instead, I think there's just some folks out there who, rationally or irrationally, were expecting to be blown away from gameplay improvements that matched the graphical improvements. For instance, maybe some people were expecting next-level fluidity that made current generation branching animations look prehistoric. To focus on a common example thrown out there thus far, maybe they were expecting there to be an incredible looking side shuffle and spotup animation from Klay Thompson instead of watching him jog all funky to the corner and half turn to face the crowd randomly.

                            And I do not say that to criticize the next gen 2K. I just think that might be more what people are referring to, as opposed to having a problem with the general idea of it playing a good game of basketball. 2K plays good basketball, but there's still so many big and small things that can be doen to make it look even better gameplay-wise. And maybe full gameplay videos will reveal a lot of those cool things.
                            Last edited by VDusen04; 10-27-2013, 10:41 AM.

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                            • spankdatazz22
                              All Star
                              • May 2003
                              • 6219

                              #374
                              Re: NBA 2K14 Video - Next-Gen Gameplay

                              Originally posted by VDusen04
                              Instead, I think there's just some folks out there who, rationally or irrationally, were expecting to be blown away from gameplay improvements that matched the graphical improvements. For instance, maybe some people were expecting next-level fluidity that made current generation branching animations look prehistoric. To focus on a common example thrown out there thus far, maybe they were expecting there to be an incredible looking side shuffle and spotup animation from Klay Thompson instead of watching him jog all funky to the corner and half turn to face the crowd randomly.
                              I'd say these raised expectations were irrational, period. If someone hyped themselves up to believe they were going to get some transformational experience when there was no evidence that would be the case, that's on them imo. There isn't a next gen game out there that completely blows away what's come before it. Gone are the days when launch systems came with a Mario 64, a Halo, etc. As each game generation has advanced, the differences between what came before it aren't as noticeable. It's been said many times - going from Atari/Intellivision to [whatever in between] was huge. The jump from SNES/Genesis to Nintendo 64/Dreamcast/PS1 was huge. The jump from those to PS2/Xbox were noticeable, but there really wasn't a transformative launch title that came with either of those systems. Same when the jump to the 360/PS3 occurred - no generation-defining experiences at launch.

                              So it's silly imo to expect that this time around. I haven't seen a single next gen game that makes people sit back and say "THAT'S something I've never seen". The racing games, the shooters, etc. - none are what people would call super-impressive. If anything many people are saying NBA2K14 represents the largest jump from a current gen game to a next gen game. So to be disappointed that it's not some transformative experience when it's likely 2K may be the one next gen game that non-fans will buy just to show off their system... is unrealistic imo.
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                              • wordtobigbird
                                MVP
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 4385

                                #375
                                Re: NBA 2K14 Video - Next-Gen Gameplay

                                I still don't see how gameplay can look different. All you can tell from watching videos is graphics and animations. Game play requires actually playing the game, period..

                                When they changed the controls the gameplay changed dramatically but in the videos it was still a crossover to a layup. You couldn't tell the gameplay was different.

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