NBA 2k14 1080p vs 720p Next Gen Console?

[MarvinOida]

Re: NBA 2k14 1080p vs 720p Next Gen Console?

To be honest, if your eye sight isn't the best, you will most likely not see a dramatic difference in 720p vs 1080p, you'll probably notice less detail/smooth edges in 720p, other than that, I'm not 100% sure.

I wouldn't try to bring statistics on this, because it really dependent on the viewers eyesight and perception on the matter.


Tap Taptalking away from my iPhone 5.... C

[yungflo]

Re: NBA 2k14 1080p vs 720p Next Gen Console?

youtube 1080p is not native, and its encoded flash videos. So bad example. Most of the time, the 1080p videos on youtube won't even play lol.

[TerminallyOdd]

Re: NBA 2k14 1080p vs 720p Next Gen Console?

Oh, and as for 4K, both systems can upscale to 4K (just as the Xbox 360 and PS3 could upscale to 1080p), but neither will have games running at the resolution natively. Neither has the horsepower to do so.

[yungflo]

Re: NBA 2k14 1080p vs 720p Next Gen Console?

" That's exactly what it means. If you have a trouble picturing it, go play a youtube video on 1080p on a 1080p monitor and then change it to 720p. That's what the difference is going to be like."

...Incorrect...these system implore very advanced upscaling, YouTube does not and its compression is rediculous...that's very misleading...best comparison is the side by side comparison on YouTube of BF4 and that's hard to tell, they both look good in different ways and perform framerates almost identically...if your not gonna believe the creator of RE that they perform the same, I don't know what to tell u other than play both and decide how best to spend your $...I've been on the xbox bandwagon since day 1, so ill admit to being a tad biased, but I wouldn't just make this stuff up...next gen will come down to exclusives, online performance and platform preference...I'm not expecting either to outperform the other game wise...both companies too smart for that...

Its not even that, I don't expect Companies to do that. The multiplats. It would hurt their sales on one console. For now, I think they tried but with launch around the corner, they cut corners and went with the obvious safe decision, better to have cod run at 60fps vs 1080p and 30fps. This game has to release especially the same time to capitalize on the market, cause that's how the fps market is.

Now if this was another genre, I doubt they would release it. For example, watch dogs.

[yungflo]

Re: NBA 2k14 1080p vs 720p Next Gen Console?

Oh, and as for 4K, both systems can upscale to 4K (just as the Xbox 360 and PS3 could upscale to 1080p), but neither will have games running at the resolution natively. Neither has the horsepower to do so.

I don't think its possible, maybe for digital downloads for Movies, or TV shows. That's probably why its listed, but for games? Hell no, not even upscaled. Its just a bullet point for a selling point. Hey, 4k is listed on this console, Lets buy it. Right now, 4k movies require 100gb or more. Thats the minimum that would be pushing bluray. Right now, a standard bluray for ps3 is 25gb, the standard for ps4 is 50, dual layered is 100gb. I don't think its happening. Unless it comes through digital distribution. Or blu ray discs come triple layered lol

[jaateloauto]

Re: NBA 2k14 1080p vs 720p Next Gen Console?

...Incorrect...these system implore very advanced upscaling, YouTube does not and its compression is rediculous...that's very misleading...best comparison is the side by side comparison on YouTube of BF4 and that's hard to tell, they both look good in different ways and perform framerates almost identically...if your not gonna believe the creator of RE that they perform the same, I don't know what to tell u other than play both and decide how best to spend your $...I've been on the xbox bandwagon since day 1, so ill admit to being a tad biased, but I wouldn't just make this stuff up...next gen will come down to exclusives, online performance and platform preference...I'm not expecting either to outperform the other game wise...both companies too smart for that...

You can't add data that isn't there no matter how "advanced" your upscaling is. Youtube would most likely be using bilinear on a regular system which isn't much worse than you can get even with the most costly ones.

youtube 1080p is not native, and its encoded flash videos. So bad example. Most of the time, the 1080p videos on youtube won't even play lol.

Youtube is native to whatever the video is. It can be 1440p and even higher. And it's not encoded flash videos, flash is just the container. You can also play in with HTML5.

Now if this was another genre, I doubt they would release it. For example, watch dogs.

I highly doubt Watch Dogs is being pushed 6 months because the FPS is bad. It's going to be on older consoles as well which very much limits it.

[xMAN OF 5TEELx]

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@jet...I do read buddy...a hell of a lot...and from great sources...not just xbox or ps forums...devs have already come out to support everything said...you can look at the updated bare specs for yourself...I build computers myself,so researching console parts and purposes are fairly easy...you do realise that DDR3 has way less latency than GDDR5 and is why M$ went that way...couple that with the esRAM and it should(on paper at least) outperform the GDD5...look, the best thing everyone can realise is that in the end, both consoles get the job done, the differences is how it gets done and only time will tell whose way triumphs...

[yungflo]

Re: NBA 2k14 1080p vs 720p Next Gen Console?

You can't add data that isn't there no matter how "advanced" your upscaling is. Youtube would most likely be using bilinear on a regular system which isn't much worse than you can get even with the most costly ones.

Youtube is native to whatever the video is. It can be 1440p and even higher. And it's not encoded flash videos, flash is just the container. You can also play in with HTML5.

I highly doubt Watch Dogs is being pushed 6 months because the FPS is bad. It's going to be on older consoles as well which very much limits it.

But youtube takes the native video that is uploaded and re-encodes it. At some point, quality fidelity is lost, even a little bit. If they were native, uploads would be nearly instant.

I didn't say that was the reason for watchdogs, I was just giving an example how other genre its easier to delay a game for x reason, over an FPS market. When the most impact of title, comes at launch for FPS titles. Especially since they are annually. So it has to come out regardless of graphical mishap, as long its stable

[jaateloauto]

Re: NBA 2k14 1080p vs 720p Next Gen Console?

But youtube takes the native video that is uploaded and re-encodes it. At some point, quality fidelity is lost, even a little bit. If they were native, uploads would be nearly instant.

Yeah the quality on youtube isn't always great (and very much depends on each video) but what can you do. I tried to offer a quick way to compare the two.

I didn't say that was the reason for watchdogs, I was just giving an example how other genre its easier to delay a game for x reason, over an FPS market. When the most impact of title, comes at launch for FPS titles. Especially since they are annually. So it has to come out regardless of graphical mishap, as long its stable

That makes more sense, I was a bit confused by the word 'genre' as you really meant the difference between a yearly title and an original IP that has to have a good debut for it to ever make it to a franchise.

[xMAN OF 5TEELx]

Re: NBA 2k14 1080p vs 720p Next Gen Console?

"You can't add data that isn't there no matter how "advanced" your upscaling is. Youtube would most likely be using bilinear on a regular system which isn't much worse than you can get even with the most costly ones."

While that's technically accurate, that's what upscaling is basically simulating...what my point was is the quality of upscalers vary a lot ...before the 1080p revolution, I sold tvs based on how well they upscaled...it makes a huge difference, though hard to see these days with such high resolutions...for example, I let my xbox 360/directv do the upscaling because my Sony tv does not do it as well and its obvious...upscalers of low quality adds a lot if distortion...

[yungflo]

Re: NBA 2k14 1080p vs 720p Next Gen Console?

Yeah the quality on youtube isn't always great (and very much depends on each video) but what can you do. I tried to offer a quick way to compare the two.

That makes more sense, I was a bit confused by the word 'genre' as you really meant the difference between a yearly title and an original IP that has to have a good debut for it to ever make it to a franchise.

Well, the 1080p vs 720p was kinda moot. lol Often on Youtube or flash videos, I cannot tell the difference between PC games and PS3/360 games.[well a little but not as drastic as in person] That's just me though. Its not until I see the game running native off my console that I can see a difference. For example, if you play infamous 2 on youtube, it looks great. If you play it on your ps3 for yourself, you can clearly see is a Jag Fest and very pixelated in its lower res textures.

Even if it was yearly, it can be delayed. Just not FPS, imo. The fps market doesn't really allow room for delays, cause most people get hooked in during the release window. That's their peak. If they delay a game, it would be bad for them. If nba2k is delayed a few months, it won't be as bad compared to bf4 or cod doing that.

[jaateloauto]

Re: NBA 2k14 1080p vs 720p Next Gen Console?

While that's technically accurate, that's what upscaling is basically simulating...what my point was is the quality of upscalers vary a lot ...before the 1080p revolution, I sold tvs based on how well they upscaled...it makes a huge difference, though hard to see these days with such high resolutions...for example, I let my xbox 360/directv do the upscaling because my Sony tv does not do it as well and its obvious...upscalers of low quality adds a lot if distortion...

That may have been the old days of TVs where processing power was non-existent but I assure you PCs are powerful enough to do a good job on upscaling.

[yungflo]

Re: NBA 2k14 1080p vs 720p Next Gen Console?

I guess the answer to my original question is "I don't know. See for yourself. " Lol.

[xMAN OF 5TEELx]

Re: NBA 2k14 1080p vs 720p Next Gen Console?

"That may have been the old days of TVs where processing power was non-existent but I assure you PCs are powerful enough to do a good job on upscaling."

If your talking about the YouTube thing, its YouTube that handles the scaling...I'm talking about how great the scalers of today are and no one will notice if its native 1080p or upscaled from 900p...

"I guess the answer to my original question is "I don't know. See for yourself. " Lol."

You can thank the CIA strategy of next gen...info seems to be on a need to know basis...we're spending $500, I think we need to know...once again, 2k could really shine a light on this...someone kidnap LD2K and make him tell us the devs opinions on this,lol...

[yungflo]

Re: NBA 2k14 1080p vs 720p Next Gen Console?

"That may have been the old days of TVs where processing power was non-existent but I assure you PCs are powerful enough to do a good job on upscaling."

If your talking about the YouTube thing, its YouTube that handles the scaling...I'm talking about how great the scalers of today are and no one will notice if its native 1080p or upscaled from 900p...

"I guess the answer to my original question is "I don't know. See for yourself. " Lol."

You can thank the CIA strategy of next gen...info seems to be on a need to know basis...we're spending $500, I think we need to know...once again, 2k could really shine a light on this...someone kidnap LD2K and make him tell us the devs opinions on this,lol...

400 for me. I'll get the XBO when it gets a price drop. As of now, I am not really excited about their exclusives. Never liked halo and titanfall seems to appear a game I won't be interested in. Destiny isn't one I'm interested in either, and that's going to be on PS4. But still, I want an xbox at some point. Still weary of MS but in a year if everything seems stable, I'm getting it as well.