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  • Herschie
    Pro
    • Apr 2012
    • 741

    #316
    Absolutely stunned. This is what Madden and FIFA failed to deliver. I have a hard time telling what's real and what's a video game. EA still looks cartoonish.
    Would the lady who left her nine kids at Wrigley Field please pick them up immediately? They are beating the Cubs 4-0 in the 7th inning!

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    • RangersCruz
      MVP
      • May 2012
      • 3275

      #317
      Re: NBA 2K14 Next-Gen Eco-Motion Engine Video and Blog

      Originally posted by wordtobigbird
      They definitely need to do this. But I don't think they've said anything about MyCareer yet.
      if we don't get the sliders then i hope at least our team plays better then and not like d leaguers

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      • jtdribbles25
        Banned
        • Aug 2003
        • 1415

        #318
        Re: Next Gen NBA 2K14 Ecomotion Blog And Trailer

        Originally posted by d23x
        I honestly think people are being so close minded when it comes to Live. Some of the features Live is implementing sound great. Now if they follow through with them is yet to be seen. If and it's a BIG "if" Live gets their gameplay to catch up with the features, I'd say 2k would need to be on their heels. Either way, I'm getting both games because a change of pace is always needed.
        Features like what exactly? Its not about being close minded. They have earned they're place in my mind. 2k wont need to be on they're heels. Long way to go for that. Unless you don't like 2k the question is what have they done to lose ground. For me, nothing. They continue to deliver. But I love the game and the consistency of the product. They don't have to reinvent the game of basketball.

        I will buy live if it is worth me buying. I wont buy it for the sake of having it or because I like the commentary or for competition.

        If its not better. Its just not.

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        • wordtobigbird
          MVP
          • Sep 2008
          • 4385

          #319
          Re: NBA 2K14 Next-Gen Eco-Motion Engine Video and Blog

          Originally posted by RangersCruz
          if we don't get the sliders then i hope at least our team plays better then and not like d leaguers
          That's what im hoping comes along with these eco-motion improvements. AI is the most important aspect to me personally when it comes to sports games. MyPlayer needs sliders even if they do improve the AI. I think we should be able to edit our teammates tendencies in some way.

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          • tsbmolina
            MVP
            • Feb 2012
            • 1289

            #320
            Re: NBA 2K14 Next-Gen Eco-Motion Engine Video and Blog

            Football's emotions is different then basketball. In football the emotions come from acrobatic catches, devastating hits, perfectly timed blocks, scrambling QB's ability to pin point pass on the run, RB's spinning out of the hands of defenders or stiffing arming them to the ground. All this stuff has been done before but the emotional part comes from the fluidity and natural look of it all and that's where Madden's biggest problems lye. Madden's jittery unnatural animations take you out of reality and reminds you it's just a game where as next gen NBA 2K14's animations are silky smooth and the transitional animations natural looking. Football"s emotions can not be expressed through facial animations because of helmets on the players but instead portrayed through the athleticism of the sport.

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            • royounggoku
              Banned
              • Sep 2013
              • 753

              #321
              Re: NBA 2K14 Next-Gen Eco-Motion Engine Video and Blog

              Originally posted by wordtobigbird
              ...seriously, people either can't read or can't hear? I'll post it AGAIN.






              From the video:

              "For us on the gameplay side what that really means is making sure that these guys think, that they behave, that they act the way they do in real life."

              "One of the main things you will see and feel right away is foot planting. Footwork is everything in basketball."

              "Every animation can be altered and change to reflect what's happening within the game."

              "we've got this new eco-motion engine that can drive so many different things. it's our rendering, its our AI, its our animations, its everything."

              Just to make it easier, bolded for gameplay references.. This is not JUST graphics. No they didn't show you straight up 5 on 5 raw gameplay but to say there is no gameplay here is just ignorant.
              I think the problem is that people are so distracted/mesmerized by the graphics that whenever a vid comes up showing any type of gameplay(even one that is strictly about HOW the game plays) they automatically assume it's all about graphics because that's what stands out most to them after watching. Seriously though watch this whole video again, there talking about nothing but gameplay for basically the whole video. They talk about graphics for like 10 seconds then jump back into talking about gameplay yet people are claiming that's all the video's about because it's stands out so much. Lol I think for any of there gameplay related vids to really come across is for them to have no in game visuals because it's so distracting to some.

              This is a DIRECT quote from the vid:
              We expect the graphics on any next gen system game to be spectacular, but moreso than anything else I think this year the first thing that hits them about our game is that they feel alive
              This pretty much highlights the theme of this vid so I don't know where comments like this is coming from
              Originally posted by RangersCruz
              They did look back a few pages

              Umm where is anything with gameplay here? its all about the graphics with highlight plays
              Last edited by royounggoku; 11-07-2013, 02:05 AM.

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              • wordtobigbird
                MVP
                • Sep 2008
                • 4385

                #322
                Re: NBA 2K14 Next-Gen Eco-Motion Engine Video and Blog

                Originally posted by tsbmolina
                Football's emotions is different then basketball. In football the emotions come from acrobatic catches, devastating hits, perfectly timed blocks, scrambling QB's ability to pin point pass on the run, RB's spinning out of the hands of defenders or stiffing arming them to the ground. All this stuff has been done before but the emotional part comes from the fluidity and natural look of it all and that's where Madden's biggest problems lye. Madden's jittery unnatural animations take you out of reality and reminds you it's just a game where as next gen NBA 2K14's animations are silky smooth and the transitional animations natural looking. Football"s emotions can not be expressed through facial animations because of helmets on the players but instead portrayed through the athleticism of the sport.
                I agree but I still wouldn't mind seeing the QB put on his Dwight Howard face in the cut scenes after an interception. Shouldn't just ignore the faces because they wear helmets.


                Imagine this look on a players face walking back to the sideline after a fumble. Even with his helmet on.

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                • King_B_Mack
                  All Star
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 24450

                  #323
                  Re: NBA 2K14 Next-Gen Eco-Motion Engine Video and Blog

                  Originally posted by RangersCruz
                  Footwork is pretty much the only thing you can take out of that and we already know about this for months now

                  "No they didn't show you straight up 5 on 5 raw gameplay but to say there is no gameplay here is just ignorant."

                  There isn't any gameplay there ..how am i being ignorant? talk is cheap
                  Ughhhh......so just so I'm clear. We've known about foot planting in Next Gen 2K for months, even though it's currently November 6th and 2K didn't even start TALKING ABOUT NEXT GEN 2K until AFTER current gen 2K came out, which was on October 1st? Are you and Flo time travelers? Can you give me the Mega Millions numbers for Friday please? Who's a solid bet to make on the World Series next year so I can put every dime I have on it? Does anyone ever actually make another college sports game at some point? We need to know these things.
                  Last edited by King_B_Mack; 11-07-2013, 02:05 AM.

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                  • wordtobigbird
                    MVP
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 4385

                    #324
                    Re: NBA 2K14 Next-Gen Eco-Motion Engine Video and Blog

                    Originally posted by royounggoku
                    I think the problem is that people are so distracted/mesmerized by the graphics that whenever a vid comes up showing any type of gameplay(even one that is strictly about HOW the game plays) they automatically assume it's all about graphics because that's what stands out most to them after watching. Seriously though watch this whole video again, there talking about nothing but gameplay for basically the whole video. They talk about graphics for like 10 seconds then jump back into talking about gameplay yet people are claiming that's all the video's about because it's stands out so much. Lol I think for any of there gameplay related vids to really come across is for them to have no in game visuals because it's so distracting to some.

                    This is a DIRECT quote from the vid:
                    Word we all interpret things differently I guess. My first thought when I was watching this was that is was just a buzzword for the facial expressions. Then the video explained it much better for me.

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                    • Coolade
                      Rookie
                      • Nov 2013
                      • 98

                      #325
                      so much emotion "what am i doing in houston??" LMAO

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                      • midwestking100
                        MVP
                        • May 2012
                        • 1561

                        #326
                        Re: NBA 2K14 Next-Gen Eco-Motion Engine Video and Blog

                        Why are people so concerned about 2k's gameplay? I mean based off 2k track record their gameplay has always been pretty good. I think they are trying to leave it as a surprise. I think 2k knows what they are doing. There is no need to complain. I really can't wait for this game to come out so we all can go on with our lives.
                        Last edited by midwestking100; 11-07-2013, 02:37 AM.

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                        • wordtobigbird
                          MVP
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 4385

                          #327
                          Re: NBA 2K14 Next-Gen Eco-Motion Engine Video and Blog

                          Originally posted by Coolade
                          so much emotion "what am i doing in houston??" LMAO


                          I LOVE that expression. I hope this is his face after every missed free throw. Going to be bricking for fun.

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                          • Boilerbuzz
                            D* B**rs!
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 5154

                            #328
                            Re: NBA 2K14 Next-Gen Eco-Motion Engine Video and Blog

                            Originally posted by yungflo
                            Touché exaggeration effect but it still doesn't take away from what I was saying. That the news is repetitive and that we have heard it before..
                            Dude. The press event pretty much talked about everything. So no matter what they say, it'll sound repetitive. You guys KNOW that you won't see gameplay for a while. Why the constant pining for it? Why must folks high jack EVERY single thread on EVERY forum with the same complaint.

                            This is what happens with nitpicking everything; none of the game developers want to show anything at all because it'll be days of undressing a lot if hard work. You can't tell me you want to see gameplay just to marvel at it. Stuff like this is why you see no Madden, no Live, no 2k. Be lucky you see FIFA - they have little to fear. You'll see the Show because you don't have any other viable options. And don't say it's because they have something to hide. They all know nothing hides from the prying eyes of OS. They should all be gun shy by now regardless of the quality or status if their game.

                            It's just SO sad that a thread for such a well done and informative video devolves into yet another bitchfest. So tired of this. I avoid the Live forums because of this. Figured it'd be safe over here. Guess I was wrong.

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                            • tril
                              MVP
                              • Nov 2004
                              • 2912

                              #329
                              this game sure is pretty!!! MY GOODNESS!!!!

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                              • SouthBeach
                                Pro
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 919

                                #330
                                Re: NBA 2K14 Next-Gen Eco-Motion Engine Video and Blog

                                Originally posted by Coolade
                                so much emotion "what am i doing in houston??" LMAO
                                Looks like the Rockets just lost to Miami because Dwight missed two game-tying free throws.

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