I'm Lactose Intolerant - Hold the Cheddar and Swiss please: The Good Games Thread

[NightStalker3]

Re: I'm Lactose Intolerant - Hold the Cheddar and Swiss please: The Good Games Thread

360 Name: NightStalker3
Team you usually run with: Boston/any
Where you are located: Boston, MA

[chia51]

Re: I'm Lactose Intolerant - Hold the Cheddar and Swiss please: The Good Games Thread

What is the appropriate level to play on, All Star, Superstar or HOF for an online game? Obviously Sim Settings, 12 minutes but what difference is there really? other than hardness of making jumpshots, does the CPU play better? do stats supposedly come out better?

Really why do people insist that HoF is the greatest for online play? In my experience all I see is the same gameplay while shooting 30% and missing wide open shots.

On All Star the shots usually come out around 40-50% with Superstar being just below that at 40-45%.

So again, whats the big deal with having to play on HoF?

[chia51]

Re: I'm Lactose Intolerant - Hold the Cheddar and Swiss please: The Good Games Thread

Taken from the 2k forums, none the less:

Well, I'm finally figuring out the finer points of playing on-the-ball defense. Given how there are MANY runs on this game, but I'm going to offer my quick advice for online play.

This goes without saying. LIMIT your number of turnovers. In NBA 2K12, turnovers are VERY punishing when compared to NBA 2K11. In NBA 2K11, your average player was scared to shoot jumpers, and any descent OTB player could effectively "lock down" or protect the paint. In NBA 2K12, the points can come from ANYWHERE and very QUICKLY, especially considering how easy it is to shoot 3's and number of available offensive moves this year. I have had runs where I scored 10 unanswered points in barely over a minute.

I normally don't advocate off-the-ball defense, but I suggest "allowing" the AI defender to pick-up the ballhandler during fastbreaks or after made baskets. From there, you can switch to the ballhandler accordingly. For some reason, the collision detection is "weaker" on the perimeter than NBA 2K11. Before I could "bump" the ballhandler to stop their forward momentum. This year...if you attempt body contact, the ballhandler will easily get pass you. With the AI, they're able to position themselves in front of the ballhandler due to the software programming.

(Previously suggested) For double teams on PF/C, switch the option to "Never". Depending on the default coach profiles, too many double teams are coming from and off PGs, SGs, and SFs, and that's VERY dangerous given the number of "good" 3PT shooters. Also, make sure to select "Pressure Shooters" from the COTF screen. As of right now, there are very few people who are utilizing the post moves, so you don't have to worry about post defense as much. With the "Pressure Shooters", AI defenders still with the perimeter players and mostly in front (if they're not screened off) which makes it easier to make a defensive switch to that player and not worry about being "out of position".

Pressing the X button at the right moment is very critical in this game. I gave up on trying to steal the ball in traffic, since there's so much body contact aminations in the paint, and contact shots are rarely go in this year. The best time to steal the ball is when the ballhandler is pushing the ball on fastbreaks. Another time to make an attempt is when the ballhandler is "showboating" on the perimeter with isomotion moves. I watch the ball, and I will make the attempt right at the moment when ball is coming around to the front, and I will push the LS in that direction.

STOP jumping all the time. This requires a lot of discpline, and our first thought is to always make the attempt due to our "fear" of how often players are able to make perimeter shots. Personally, I'm limiting my block attempts to paint shots or on close outs.

Lastly...Manual Double Teams + Hands Up = Best defense. I'm noticing that a LOT of turnovers can be forced (as it should) when you trap a player in the corner, and you DON'T use the steal button. The AI will automatically put their hands up, and it's a perfect time that you do the same. What normally happens is any pass attempts made are thrown into the hands of the defender, and it's just a matter of picking up the ball and finishing the fastbreak. Also, the best double teams are the ones when you switch off the ballhandler and quickly bring over another defender. I would recommend the LB button, but it seems slow and unresponsive at times.

USE your timeouts to kill scoring momentums. It felt more like a placebo effect in NBA 2K11, but it does seem like it genuinely works in NBA 2K12.

Hopefully, this will help you all. I blew out my last two opponents by 20+, and I never felt that he had a "chance" to come back. Now, it's time to get my winning percentage above 70%.

[ManiacMatt1782]

Re: I'm Lactose Intolerant - Hold the Cheddar and Swiss please: The Good Games Thread

Had a real good contest with boricallstar718, good battle going into the 4th quarter until 2k servers decided to quit. smh. Fun game....good sim player...looking forward to having at it again!!!

I have played with boric too, legit sim player.

[wizzleman]

Re: I'm Lactose Intolerant - Hold the Cheddar and Swiss please: The Good Games Thread

Had a great game with Boric that came down to the last minute, he had the knicks and I had the Nets. I won by 4 points I think.

[JerzeyReign]

Re: I'm Lactose Intolerant - Hold the Cheddar and Swiss please: The Good Games Thread

Haha. You play very well tho. I knew I had to double Randolph from the word go, I wanted to stop Rudy's penetration(no homo). I tried to make you beat me with your roll players from long range, locking down the paint is key to beating Memphis.

Not if used correctly. Not saying homie wasn't using them right but Mayo and Gay put in work from mid range. Once you have a guy on your hip, that pull up jumper is money in the bank. I wish I was on Xbox right now (might buy the game in November) so I can play against a Knicks user who wasn't trying to cheese it up.

Anyway, PS3 guys... leggo!! Trying to get validated. Fatleg? Phenom?

[ForeverVersatile]

Re: I'm Lactose Intolerant - Hold the Cheddar and Swiss please: The Good Games Thread

Don't play a guy with the GT of chris212973. I don't even know how he got my GT (maybe from here). He only knows Melo and will take damn near every shot with him.

When he's losing he will go into cheese mode trying to bump you back into backcourt violations(Glad blocking fouls are called) and bombing 3's with Melo, Billups and Bill Walker.

I beat him down twice and he did the same tactics both games.

@ jenkz21 i sent you a request.

Anyone seen ECworldwide online yet i was looking forward to playing him in 2K12 since our 2K11 games were 2-2 or 3-2 with him beating me in our series of games.

[ForeverVersatile]

Re: I'm Lactose Intolerant - Hold the Cheddar and Swiss please: The Good Games Thread

Have you guy's checked out your VIP stats yet, mine says i'm not shooting perfect release at all. I was very shocked to see that because i practice shots all the time. The online lag must be very bad, hopefully with a patch we can get shot feedback online.

Question: When the indicator under the player blinks that's a hint when to release right?? I sure thought it was.

[Chrisbballn]

Re: I'm Lactose Intolerant - Hold the Cheddar and Swiss please: The Good Games Thread

Psn: Chrisbballn
team: Detroit Pistons
location: Europe

[AllStarDaDon]

Re: I'm Lactose Intolerant - Hold the Cheddar and Swiss please: The Good Games Thread

Not if used correctly. Not saying homie wasn't using them right but Mayo and Gay put in work from mid range. Once you have a guy on your hip, that pull up jumper is money in the bank. I wish I was on Xbox right now (might buy the game in November) so I can play against a Knicks user who wasn't trying to cheese it up.

Anyway, PS3 guys... leggo!! Trying to get validated. Fatleg? Phenom?

You're most definitely right. But I prefer to have my opponent shoot jumpers. I usually lockup low post/driving players and force jumpers. Guys who consistently get inside on me are, elprez98, mrnba2k10 and rockchisler.

I have played with boric too, legit sim player.

Thanks for the prop guys, it's appreciated.

Had a great game with Boric that came down to the last minute, he had the knicks and I had the Nets. I won by 4 points I think.

I loved that game. You took it to me with the Nets. Still can't believe Melo missed that shot.

Don't play a guy with the GT of chris212973. I don't even know how he got my GT (maybe from here). He only knows Melo and will take damn near every shot with him.

When he's losing he will go into cheese mode trying to bump you back into backcourt violations(Glad blocking fouls are called) and bombing 3's with Melo, Billups and Bill Walker.

I beat him down twice and he did the same tactics both games.

@ jenkz21 i sent you a request.

Anyone seen ECworldwide online yet i was looking forward to playing him in 2K12 since our 2K11 games were 2-2 or 3-2 with him beating me in our series of games.

I have chris on my friends list. I haven't played him yet, but his bio says greatest sim player of all time -___-

I love playing ecworldwide! He's my favorite guy to play against, we literally play like 6 games in a row, all chess matches. He helped me become a great player.

[ScarTan59]

Re: I'm Lactose Intolerant - Hold the Cheddar and Swiss please: The Good Games Thread

PSN: tank159
Team: LA Lakers
Location: Toronto

[CueDub]

Re: I'm Lactose Intolerant - Hold the Cheddar and Swiss please: The Good Games Thread

GT: MistaQ7980
PS3/360: PS3
Team You Run With: Knicks
Where are you Located: South Carolina (originally from Jersey)

[eDotd]

Re: I'm Lactose Intolerant - Hold the Cheddar and Swiss please: The Good Games Thread

Glad to see people getting games in.

I should be on around 11/12est.

[chia51]

Re: I'm Lactose Intolerant - Hold the Cheddar and Swiss please: The Good Games Thread

Just got done with Boric and his Knicks... could not stop Melo in the 3rd and 4th, typical Warrior defense though. Warriors came out strong and faded quick, got down big, made a run in the 4th and ran out of gas. Landry Fields had a nice put back dunk that kept the lead to a two possession game, which the Warriors just couldn't overcome.

Ellis balled as usually as did Curry (in the 1st half), Lee played okay, but the rest sucked (looking at you Dorrell)

Boric = Good simballer.


*note to self, do not be the warriors again (all they're damn plays are iso's and very quick, not very many branching windows)

[AllStarDaDon]

Re: I'm Lactose Intolerant - Hold the Cheddar and Swiss please: The Good Games Thread

Just got done with Boric and his Knicks... could not stop Melo in the 3rd and 4th, typical Warrior defense though. Warriors came out strong and faded quick, got down big, made a run in the 4th and ran out of gas. Landry Fields had a nice put back dunk that kept the lead to a two possession game, which the Warriors just couldn't overcome.

Ellis balled as usually as did Curry (in the 1st half), Lee played okay, but the rest sucked (looking at you Dorrell)

Boric = Good simballer.


*note to self, do not be the warriors again (all they're damn plays are iso's and very quick, not very many branching windows)

Thanks man, hats off to you also.

You had me worried in the 1st quarter when you had that 12-2 run. I'm gonna be on my P's & Q's next time we play cause of those dam pull ups haha.

Fields is my weapon in 2K12. In 2K11 I was ballin with J. Jefferies but he got some major deductions to his mid range lol.

I played alabama rob over the weekend. We only played a quarter and a half due to the servers, but homie is legit, a beast on D. He did a good job containing Melo and Amare.

Mattman gave me a run for my money with ATL, very good sim baller. dontjenkme also was good, he was leading a good comeback until 2K servers wanted to be an electric company and disconnect everybody haha.