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  • DiceMan
    NBA All Life Team
    • Mar 2004
    • 2052

    #16
    Re: 2k10....Neon1 Base Roster Project

    Originally posted by Neon1
    Yeah my bad....360. I got a new alledgedly "death free" version 360...
    Lol for your sake I hope so....I'm sure you'll be gettin together w/the ps3 guys so they can make it happen for us?
    PSN: DoubleLGetsBusy
    NY Knicks
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    4 Life.....

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    • AnArtofWar
      Pro
      • Feb 2009
      • 885

      #17
      Re: 2k10....Neon1 Base Roster Project

      Yea I really hope you can make the draft class quick...I think I am going to wait on starting my association for it if I can get the first 3 rounds of the draft...hopefully that would take a week. Or is it possible to load in the draft class later? Didn't really say anything about that when it asked about importing a draft class..

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      • Dimer76er
        Rookie
        • Oct 2008
        • 37

        #18
        Re: 2k10....Neon1 Base Roster Project

        With the awsome work you did last year in bringing the gameplay up to speed all that was left for 2k to do was inhance the presentation. The really stepped it up this year. The play by play is improved as well and promises to update throughout the season.... nice work.

        The only gripe I have had with my first few games is the random backcourt violations by the AI. Scrimages in practice mode are a nice change from quick games as well and a good way to get a feel for a team.

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        • Streets
          Supreme
          • Aug 2004
          • 5787

          #19
          Re: 2k10....Neon1 Base Roster Project

          Originally posted by AnArtofWar
          Yea I really hope you can make the draft class quick...I think I am going to wait on starting my association for it if I can get the first 3 rounds of the draft...hopefully that would take a week. Or is it possible to load in the draft class later? Didn't really say anything about that when it asked about importing a draft class..
          I believe you load classes before the season begins on a per-year basis. So each year you get the choice to load, edit, generate, etc. Basically, you just need one class to get started with your association.

          Neon,

          Thanks for putting this work in. My question is, will your draft classes be compatible with default rosters? Like if we just go with 2K's default rosters and ratings, will your rookies be rated to low or high? Or should they be about right in comparison to 2K's default. Basically I don't know if you are tweaking or overhauling the ratings.

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          • Neon1
            MVP
            • Nov 2004
            • 1532

            #20
            Re: 2k10....Neon1 Base Roster Project

            Originally posted by Streets
            Neon,

            Thanks for putting this work in. My question is, will your draft classes be compatible with default rosters? Like if we just go with 2K's default rosters and ratings, will your rookies be rated to low or high? Or should they be about right in comparison to 2K's default. Basically I don't know if you are tweaking or overhauling the ratings.

            I havent spent a million hours with this game yet but, i can confidently say that there will NOT be a need or a total overhaul like last year. So the answer would be yes they will comply.

            I likely wont do much ratings wise to the draft classes outside of appearances, name/info changes.

            I or somebody else can just tweak the ratings some to fit (rebounding, ft%, 3pt's blocking, etc).

            With the individual Team Playbook's being position specific and Coaching profiles i wont have to hurt my head over that stuff.

            Small tweaks here and there and thats it.

            Presentation city this year.

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            • lkasprzak
              Pro
              • Nov 2007
              • 752

              #21
              Re: 2k10....Neon1 Base Roster Project

              great thread cant wait for this, I love ur rosters for 2k9

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              • Dimer76er
                Rookie
                • Oct 2008
                • 37

                #22
                Re: 2k10....Neon1 Base Roster Project

                Neon you are really doing the Lords work, you should get The "Black Jesus Brand" player of the game.


                Almost forgot, what about PS3? Is Hoosierdaddy gonna update the work since you are not on the PS3?
                Last edited by Dimer76er; 10-07-2009, 04:05 PM.

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                • Dimer76er
                  Rookie
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 37

                  #23
                  Re: 2k10....Neon1 Base Roster Project

                  No sign of RAZRr yet, will he be heading up the PS3 thread?

                  I have found in my games so far that the PG's don't drive as much as last year. Is this being noticed or is the NEW D machanics better at preventing it?

                  Also I have been getting torched by jump shooters(Nochioni for 30 and 6 treys and Rip for 42 with 4 treys today). But great fun trying to fight on D with Rip to prevent him running around picks and when you finlaly steal one away from him(jump the route, beat him to the ball) you feel like you really acomplished something(but he is just to deadly.. crazy deft touch in close on layups and runners).

                  Sorry if I'm putting the cart before the mule.

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                  • AnArtofWar
                    Pro
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 885

                    #24
                    Re: 2k10....Neon1 Base Roster Project

                    Hmm hopefully someone will be able to do good ratings for the draft then...I bet someone will jump up for the challenge...I wonder if there is anyway to do it on PC, I believe on NCAA what they used to do was put it up for download and you would put it on your 360 until they didn't allow you to do that anymore...I think there would be a way of sort of creating a good ratings system by going off 2k's rookie ratings this year and comparing them to their ratings in the college game..probably around SOME percentage where their ratings are decreased around...maybe like 30% for Shooting Inside 20% for FT etc..

                    And man I have been away from basketball for a long time...I said 3rd round..too much football I guess
                    Last edited by AnArtofWar; 10-07-2009, 04:29 PM.

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                    • sheva07
                      Rookie
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 272

                      #25
                      Re: 2k10....Neon1 Base Roster Project

                      hi neon, glad to hear from you again! if you need some help don't hesitate to call me. BTW i'm going to take care about the PC counterpart again like i did for 2k9 if you could get all info when ready.


                      take care.

                      Sheva.

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                      • gottibino
                        "I am Tiger Woods"
                        • Oct 2004
                        • 1589

                        #26
                        Re: 2k10....Neon1 Base Roster Project

                        Very excited about this so thanks!!!
                        Also, not sure if it's mentioned already BUT when u switch players primary position, it changes their ratings FYI
                        psn: Kobe_8Mamba_24

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                        • drewbaby1414
                          Rookie
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 438

                          #27
                          Re: 2k10....Neon1 Base Roster Project

                          Looking forward to a good roster....Does your roster correct some of the simulated stats in association such as low guard rebounds and bench scoring?
                          "Don't complain about the show if the ticket is free."

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                          • C_Bailey24
                            Pro
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 691

                            #28
                            Re: 2k10....Neon1 Base Roster Project

                            Originally posted by Dimer76er
                            No sign of RAZRr yet, will he be heading up the PS3 thread?

                            I have found in my games so far that the PG's don't drive as much as last year. Is this being noticed or is the NEW D machanics better at preventing it?
                            I think it has something to do with the tendency ratings. I just went through looking at rosters and if i'm not mistaken EVERY player in the game has a Drive Tendency rating of ZERO. I thought it was just a fluke or something when i was looking through my Pistons but then i went to Derrick Rose, Chris Paul, Dwayne Wade, Tony Parker, etc and they all had zeros for that tendency rating. I wonder why 2K did this?

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                            • houston911
                              Banned
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 83

                              #29
                              Re: 2k10....Neon1 Base Roster Project

                              Originally posted by C_Bailey24
                              I think it has something to do with the tendency ratings. I just went through looking at rosters and if i'm not mistaken EVERY player in the game has a Drive Tendency rating of ZERO. I thought it was just a fluke or something when i was looking through my Pistons but then i went to Derrick Rose, Chris Paul, Dwayne Wade, Tony Parker, etc and they all had zeros for that tendency rating. I wonder why 2K did this?

                              2k did this because they just threw this game together and planned on fixing stuff by the end of this basketball year...at least thats what it looks like to me

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                              • Neon1
                                MVP
                                • Nov 2004
                                • 1532

                                #30
                                Re: 2k10....Neon1 Base Roster Project

                                Originally posted by houston911
                                2k did this because they just threw this game together and planned on fixing stuff by the end of this basketball year...at least thats what it looks like to me
                                They did that to slow the game down. They borrowed and applied a LOT of theorys used from last years work people did on here.

                                Looks like they based a lot of rating/tendency changes off things from last year but tweaked them.

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