Nogster's Roster 2.0 for 360 *RELEASED*

[Real2KInsider]

Re: Nogster's Roster 2.0 for 360 *RELEASED*

Solution: Click my name and add me to your ignore list. I implore you.

[mattzane227]

Re: Nogster's Roster 2.0 for 360 *RELEASED*

naw, I'm good.

[seanbarkley]

Re: Nogster's Roster 2.0 for 360 *RELEASED*

Let me get this straight.

I don't want my name all over something, yet I have a superiority complex?

Here is your answer why I think you have a superiority complex:

Looks like it's time for my annual address to the O.S. community.


I don't know any of you. None of you know me. I couldn't care less about any of your personality disorders, or how snobby you come off on the internet. I'm not here to make friends, and I never will be.

I don't come to this board to talk **** about any of you, yet it seems every couple of months there is a bunch of "Anti-Rashidi" rhetoric going around. As far as I'm concerned, I must be doing something right if my personality is CONSTANTLY nitpicked and lambasted on a forum that is supposed to be about rosters.

Do not ask me questions and then BITCH when you aren't happy with my answer. In the past I have ALWAYS declined to allow people to use my work as their own. I did not care this time. I figured what's the big deal? Someone likes my work enough that they're willing to track every single change I've made? I say I don't have a problem with it, request that my name not be involved because I have absolutely nothng to do with this community or the project, and people are CRYING about it. I am somehow the bad guy once a ****ing gain.

So from now on, if anybody EVER asks if it's okay to use my work, or if I want to collaborate on a project, the answer is NO. I could care less if any of you read my blog again, or if this post makes me look like an even bigger ******* (which is surely incomprehensible given most of your attitudes toward me). If you want to spend time stealing my work, rather than actually spending some time learning how to edit player ratings, that's on you and the mirror you have to look in at the end of the day.

I have principles that I stand by, and I will never submit myself to the hypocriscy of using the work of a man I feel nothing or worse for. I sincerely hope you all are reminded of what an ******* I am as you use these rosters.

Sincerely, I'm a great fan of your work and I think u actaully do great rosters but:

1. In order to the personality disorders: I've never seen any of us thinking that there's some kind of conspiracy against us: 2K is not Spectra and the 2k insideer is not Dr. Evil; so u should look yourself in the mirror before saying those words.

2. It's funny that u say that u have nothing to do with this community since you come here periodically to put your website updates. If want to make some extra cash with people from this site clicks, I wouldn't have said that, but hey! I'm not gonna show you how to handle ur business.

3. Maybe we are losing objectivity at this moment, but it's just a roster, and it's just a videogame!!!are u kidding? nobody stole you the Coca-Cola formula, and most of all, Trajan won't make any money doing what he did...

[fatjoejr2001]

Re: Nogster's Roster 2.0 for 360 *RELEASED*

I have been a big fan of OS for quite some time and obviously all of us make OS. Not just the big headed people or the roster creaters. True those that download and not create should be extremely grateful for the dedication (Especially to those who do this for free). Regardless of whatever the case may be we should all be humble and happy that in a economic crisis we can even afford to have all these games and participate in something as great as in depth "realism based" rosters for all the different sports platforms. I mean seriously guys there are people dying in haiti and we're here arguing about a videogame. This is a privilege not an obligation. The best of the best (Knight165) has other people working on his roster to update, make a whole lot better overall and just help out as best as they can. I am pretty sure Knight as well as us all see it for what it is. A couple of people from the community trying to lend a helping hand to better a project and create a better game for everybody to enjoy. I mean isn't that the point!? They give Knight credit and in return Knight is happy that people want to participate. I know knight doesn't humiliate people for trying to give him credit or having a question/concern, or throwing in everyones face how he doesn't care or even worse direspects OS with his disrespectful attitude. Excuse us for being supporters and wanting to give you credit ******* (I don't even want to say the name lol). One day maybe you'll learn how to embrace us instead of telling us in every way how much you don't give a sh*t. If that's the case why are you even here? I'm sorry for the length everyone but this was just ridiculous from somebody I personally always held so high overall and in the OS community.
P.S. I don't need to block/ignore you... I'm a PS3 user

[fatjoejr2001]

Re: Nogster's Roster 2.0 for 360 *RELEASED*

Btw thanks to all for the roster/spreadsheet (Especially Trojan for the dedication and dealing w/ being treated like garbage just for trying to do the right thing). You will make it possible for us PS3 users to share this amazing roster and experience with the 360 users. Let us all unite and not fight!!!!
fatjoejr2001

[seanbarkley]

Re: Nogster's Roster 2.0 for 360 *RELEASED*

I have been a big fan of OS for quite some time and obviously all of us make OS. Not just the big headed people or the roster creaters. True those that download and not create should be extremely grateful for the dedication (Especially to those who do this for free). Regardless of whatever the case may be we should all be humble and happy that in a economic crisis we can even afford to have all these games and participate in something as great as in depth "realism based" rosters for all the different sports platforms. I mean seriously guys there are people dying in haiti and we're here arguing about a videogame. This is a privilege not an obligation. The best of the best (Knight165) has other people working on his roster to update, make a whole lot better overall and just help out as best as they can. I am pretty sure Knight as well as us all see it for what it is. A couple of people from the community trying to lend a helping hand to better a project and create a better game for everybody to enjoy. I mean isn't that the point!? They give Knight credit and in return Knight is happy that people want to participate. I know knight doesn't humiliate people for trying to give him credit or having a question/concern, or throwing in everyones face how he doesn't care or even worse direspects OS with his disrespectful attitude. Excuse us for being supporters and wanting to give you credit ******* (I don't even want to say the name lol). One day maybe you'll learn how to embrace us instead of telling us in every way how much you don't give a sh*t. If that's the case why are you even here? I'm sorry for the length everyone but this was just ridiculous from somebody I personally always held so high overall and in the OS community.
P.S. I don't need to block/ignore you... I'm a PS3 user

AMEN!

[TrajanLK121]

Re: Nogster's Roster 2.0 for 360 *RELEASED*

Don't ask me for anything in the future.

Like what? What could I possibly ask you for in the future? You've already given me more than I could ever ask for this past week.

Looks like it's time for my annual address to the O.S. community.

Annual address uh? LOL

I couldn't care less about any of your personality disorders, or how snobby you come off on the internet.

Funny, we feel the same way about you. It's been an amusing week non the least. Too bad you're not a humble person but you are what life makes you.

I don't come to this board to talk **** about any of you, yet it seems every couple of months there is a bunch of "Anti-Rashidi" rhetoric going around.

You can thank your great attitude for that. I know, I know, you don't come here to make friends but there are a lot of people that come here with that same mentality and they don't come out appearing like pricks.

In the past I have ALWAYS declined to allow people to use my work as their own.

What the hell are you talking about? I'm not using your work as my own. I'm not using it as a base for my own roster project. I'm not taking any credit for it. I grabbed it for personal use. It was a simple merger. An experiment to see how the two things would go together. Others wanted to try out and that's that.

I did not care this time.

I must have been the lucky one. Yippee.

I figured what's the big deal?

You sure made it a big deal. All you had to say from the very beginning is go ahead but don't include my name in the upload because I'm afraid it's going to diminish my name. Your first reply to my polite request was you thinking that I wanted you to steal Nogster's tendencies. Your second reply was that you had to decide if you want your name not included in the upload to 2KShare. You see? Only you made it a big deal. You made such a small thing complicated instead of giving a solid answer in your first reply.

If you want to spend time stealing my work

Get it through your freaking head, I didn't steal your work. Stealing your work would be to take it, either add some changes or not and upload it and take full credit for it. That's stealing! I never took any credit for anything. I merged the rosters together for personal use. That's what the rosters are for right? People wanted to try it out so I didn't have any problems with that. It's called sharing genius.

rather than actually spending some time learning how to edit player ratings, that's on you and the mirror you have to look in at the end of the day.

Many of us don't have time nor the interest for roster making. Just merging the rosters alone and now completing the spreadsheet for my PS3 friends is torture enough, not to mention very time consuming. Looking at yourself at the mirror at the end of day? It's just a basketball video game roster you weirdo and I didn't even steal it. You keep showing how pathetic you can be with statements like that. I can look at myself in the mirror just fine knowing the fact that I don't give a crap nor do I have any interest in roster making. I'm interested in modding some PC games but that's as far as it goes.

I have principles that I stand by, and I will never submit myself to the hypocriscy of using the work of a man I feel nothing or worse for.

I think the principles you've shown here are laughable at best. You take roster work too seriously. It's just a modification for a freaking video game. If you worked for 2K or Live, I would completely understand but you don't so that's that.

[Serra11]

Re: Nogster's Roster 2.0 for 360 *RELEASED*

Hey guys, I followed what Serra11 did and added in Vyaras' coach profile settings for offensive tempo, fastbreaks, and run plays and man, not only am I getting a realistic number of teams averaging over a 100 pts./game but I'm also getting some awesome games out of them too. Played two season games with these settings against the Suns and Nuggets and they were very fun and competitive, especially the Nuggets. I think those coach profile changes made the game better, at least for me. The games are more up tempo, teams fast break more, and the AI opposing team's offense is less predictable. That doesn't mean that every team will score over a 100 pts. on you. If you're the kind of player that likes to control tempo and slow the game down and play good defense, you can definitely hold teams to like 80-90 pts. I held the Suns to like 87 and that's with 12 min. quarters. I'm playing on Pro with Playmaker's sliders tweaked to my liking.

Thanks Trajan!
I was sure that I was doing something useful.
Also I have made others little changes to improve rotations and simmed stats:
Phila:
Speights PF/c (not C/pf)
Young SF/pf (not PF/sf)

Bucks:
Ilyasova Tendencies (Shot Tipe,Freelance etc...)

Cavs:
LBJ SF/sg
West PG/sg (becames worst than Parker)

Clippers:
Thornton 68 overall(a little better than Butler)

Grizzlies:
Gay SF and 78 overall(because he's really really good!)
Thabeet has 82 in steals and 5 in contests shots!!!(inverted)

Hornats:
Paul edited with Vyaras shot tendencies(more assists in simulation)
West PF/c

Hawks:
Johnson 84 overall(best in his team)

Kings:
Hawes needs better shot tendencies and hotspots
Brockman PF/C

Knicks:
Robinson SG/pg (not PG/sg)
Chandles SF/sg (not SG/sf)
Bender SF and better shots tendencies

Lakers:
Artest SF (not SF/pf)

Mavs:
Howard SG/sf (so Marion is the best SF in the team)
and 74 overall (made him better than Terry)

Nets:
Simmons SF (not PF/sf)

Nuggets
J.R. Smith SF/sg (it's a Nogster's suggestion,so he remains 6th in the rotation)

Pacers:
Granger SF

Raptors:
DeRozan 66 overall (better than Belinelli 'cause DeRozan is starter)
Johnson PF/C (not PF/sf)

Houston:
Scola 79 or at least a little better than Landry

Spurs:
Duncan PF/c (I think it fits better with Rocky plays)
Bonner C/pf

Suns:
Hill 74 overall (better than Dudley)
Dudley SF
Richardson 72 (better than Barbosa)
Nash edited with Vyaras shot tendencies(more assists in simulation)

T'Wolves
Hollins 60 overall (better than Blount)

Trail Blazers
Outlaw SF/pf (not PF/sf)

Warriors
Ellis SG/pg (not SG/sf)
Maggette SF/pf (Azubuike will be the 6th man,sorry Kelenna...)

Wizards
Butler SF/sg (not Sf/pf)
Foye SG/pg (not PG/sg

I think and hope that these changes help the cpu rotation.

[Serra11]

Re: Nogster's Roster 2.0 for 360 *RELEASED*

Also I lowered Chris Bosh Def rebouns to 79 and Off reb to 84.
Every year he's the best rebounder in simmed association...

[gottibino]

Re: Nogster's Roster 2.0 for 360 *RELEASED*

Yeah the rookies that you import from a draft class or even if you let the game create them, they aren't going to be rated at the same speed as Tomba's edits correct? So all of the rookies won't have 50 speed or whatever. That is definitely a concern...

yeah but can't u edit the rookies (after or before they get drafted)?
i haven't gotten that far yet.

[gottibino]

Re: Nogster's Roster 2.0 for 360 *RELEASED*

Hey guys, I followed what Serra11 did and added in Vyaras' coach profile settings for offensive tempo, fastbreaks, and run plays and man, not only am I getting a realistic number of teams averaging over a 100 pts./game but I'm also getting some awesome games out of them too.

The bigs shooting 3's? Yeah, I saw them in my Association. I deleted that crap real quick. I like the player roles feature for Association mode so I'm not going to turn it off to work around the bug.

The spreadsheet is coming in a few days. Been busy lately so I haven't had any time to finish it up. The time I did have for this stuff, was focused on the getting the roster released. So you're really going to put that stuff in yourself uh? Man, you're in for one hell of a pain in the ***.

Is this (Serra11's edits) in ur roster release.
How do u delete the patch?
I'd LOVE to DL ur roster so I don't have to do all that editing BUT it won't let me on 2kshare unless I DL the patch. I'll DL the patch to get ur rosters if i can delete the patch. Pls help!

[BroMontana82]

Re: Nogster's Roster 2.0 for 360 *RELEASED*

i haven't checked these out yet since I already started an association post patch but what are your impressions using Tomba's dribble / speed edits? pros and cons? not sure if i'd like having every player have the same quickness rating since some guys are obviously a lot quicker than others...

also, when simming using his coach profiles and not using them what have you noticed about team records? i know he said with his, they were hit or miss. can't wait to see this spreadsheet too.

[Serra11]

Re: Nogster's Roster 2.0 for 360 *RELEASED*

i haven't checked these out yet since I already started an association post patch but what are your impressions using Tomba's dribble / speed edits? pros and cons? not sure if i'd like having every player have the same quickness rating since some guys are obviously a lot quicker than others...

also, when simming using his coach profiles and not using them what have you noticed about team records? i know he said with his, they were hit or miss. can't wait to see this spreadsheet too.

I simmed some associations with players role OFF and ALLOW CPU TRADES ON with "pure" Nogster's roster and Trajan's roster.
The results are almost the same:good teams like Cavs,Celtics,Lakers etc... have always good records,the same for Portland and Houston that in asso. use their injured stars(Oden,Yao..).
Sometimes the Warriors are on fire(rarely) or Hornets and Mavs have some diffcults and negative records...so the main difference is that with Vyaras game tempo/fastbreaks you have more points per game for each team.
And more PGs with at least 10 assists per game.

[Serra11]

Re: Nogster's Roster 2.0 for 360 *RELEASED*

Is this (Serra11's edits) in ur roster release.
How do u delete the patch?
I'd LOVE to DL ur roster so I don't have to do all that editing BUT it won't let me on 2kshare unless I DL the patch. I'll DL the patch to get ur rosters if i can delete the patch. Pls help!

If you clear the cache you are going to loose patch1!!!
Do you have a transfer kit???

[gottibino]

Re: Nogster's Roster 2.0 for 360 *RELEASED*

If you clear the cache you are going to loose patch1!!!
Do you have a transfer kit???

No, but I WILL def get one now.
What do u suggest I get (brand or model) & can u or Trajan tranfer them to me?