Nogster's Roster 2.0 for 360 *RELEASED*

[Serra11]

Re: Nogster's Roster 2.0 for 360 *RELEASED*

Speights never plays with Dalembert, he's the backup center.
Young has played mostly PF his whole career now, he's splitting time with Brand and Rodney Carney gets the majority of the backup SF minutes now. Iverson pushing Iguodala to SF ate up most of the minutes there.

PG: Holliday/Williams
SG: Iverson/Green
SF: Iguodala/Carney
PF: Brand/Young
C: Dalembert/Speights

That's the rotation.




Wut? LeBron hasn't played SG even part-time since his soph year. The dude is the size of Craig Smith and has played significantly more PF over the last 3 years than SG.





As someone who actually watches the Knicks, Chandler has been starting at SG all season, and drew the bulk of the starts there last season as well. He is not a SF going forward if the team has Gallinari. Further, Nate is the backup PG and has played over Duhon rather than at SG with him more often than not.




Again, most of Simmons' minutes have come at PF this season. Post knee surgery he doesn't have the quickness to keep up with SFs.




The Pacers play a ton of small ball. Take away his second position and you won't see Watson/Rush/Dunleavy/Granger lineups.





Again, that's where he has mostly played the last two seasons. There's a reason why Webster became the starter after Batum got hurt.



Ellis has played more SF this season than PG. They have Watson and Curry logging all the PG minutes. Azubuike started over Maggette until he got hurt. Don Nelson said prior to the season (i.e. prior to all the injuries) that he'd use Maggette primarily as a PF... which is exactly what he did last season.



Foye is starting at PG in Washington. Butler hasn't played a lick of SG because the team has Miller, Stevenson, Young, Foye, not to mention when Arenas would play there next to Boykins.

Sorry but I like to see the players in their "natural" position.
About Phila:
Dalembert needs to be better than Speights for correct rotation.
About Lebron:
THIS year he doesn't play at PF,but with a pg and Moon or Jawad Williams he play at SG.
About New York:
agree with you(but Nate as pg...really don't like it,and for sure D'Antoni too!).
About Simmons:
agree with you.
About Pacers:
you are right,agree completely.
About Portland:
as I said,I like players in their natural postion...but Outlaw needs to be in the second line.But he starts from the bench not because is a PF but because Portland needs points from the second unit.
About Golden State:
Nellie says a thing and after he does the opposite(Belinelli knows it well).Sorry but in my opinion Maggette needs to be at SF.
About Foye:
he's a combo guard but mainly a point guard,you are right.
But he needs to be better rated than Boykins at least...

[Neon1]

Re: Nogster's Roster 2.0 for 360 *RELEASED*

LeBron doesnt play SG....At all.

http://www.82games.com/0910/09CLE9.HTM#bypos

He Plays:
66% of the teams mins at SF
13% of the teams mins at PF
0% of mins at SG
last year:

http://www.82games.com/0809/08CLE9.HTM#bypos

56% of mins at SF
19% of mins at PF
0% of mins at SG

Outlaw

http://www.82games.com/0910/09POR8.HTM#bypos

9% of teams mins at PF
2% of teams mins at SF

Last Year:

http://www.82games.com/0809/08POR8.HTM#bypos

37% at SF
19% at PF

Year Before:

http://www.82games.com/0708/07POR9C.HTM

44% at PF
10% AT SF

Speights

http://www.82games.com/0910/09PHI11.HTM#bypos

19% of teams mins at C
5% of teams mins at PF
Last year:

http://www.82games.com/0809/08PHI11.HTM#bypos

21% of teams mins at C
10% of teams mins at PF

He was a Center in high school, college and has played the giant bulk of his mins at center in the NBA, so again you have to say that it cant really be said that his natural position is PF.


Young

http://www.82games.com/0910/09PHI9.HTM#bypos

41% of teams mins at PF
30% of teams mins at SF

Last Year:

http://www.82games.com/0809/08CLE9.HTM#bypos

42% at PF
22% at SF

And he actually STARTS at power forward. He played PF in college and HS...so what his "natural" position is as far as it being SF is debatable at the least.

Maggette (STARTS at PF)
This Year:

http://www.82games.com/0910/09GSW11.HTM

0% at SG
19% at SF
36% at PF
3% at C

Last Year:

http://www.82games.com/0809/08GSW10.HTM#bypos

0% at SG
10% at SF
27% at PF
1% at C

[TrajanLK121]

Re: Nogster's Roster 2.0 for 360 *RELEASED*

I had a feeling that some people wouln't like Tomba's speed edits. With the new update, I'll take it out.

[GaryT531]

Re: Nogster's Roster 2.0 for 360 *RELEASED*

i absolutly love tombas speed edits combined w nogsters rosters and tombas sliders. well hopefully that gotti guy keeps putting out rosters then...how do you guys not like tombas edits? you must not be using them in conjunction w tombas sliders. they only work w those. great pace and flow to the game.

[PikeJR23]

Re: Nogster's Roster 2.0 for 360 *RELEASED*

I had a feeling that some people wouln't like Tomba's speed edits. With the new update, I'll take it out.

*Cleveland voice* "THATS WHAT I WAS TELLIN' THEM BEFORE!!!" lol...Forreal though, thank you b/c I didn't like tomba's edits.

[TrajanLK121]

Re: Nogster's Roster 2.0 for 360 *RELEASED*

I like them too accept for the fact that it messes with rotations. I can always maintain two versions for people that like them and for people that don't.

[gottibino]

Re: Nogster's Roster 2.0 for 360 *RELEASED*

i absolutly love tombas speed edits combined w nogsters rosters and tombas sliders. well hopefully that gotti guy keeps putting out rosters then...how do you guys not like tombas edits? you must not be using them in conjunction w tombas sliders. they only work w those. great pace and flow to the game.

Unfortunately I won't be putting out updates for a few reasons;
1.) I'm FINALLY starting my association
2.) Ratings, Tendencies, Rotations etc...are not my specialty (I tweak things to my liking) & don't want to short-change the community.
Nogster, Rashidi, Neon, Ronyell, sambf12, ffaacc03, Vyaras, TrajanLK121 & Tomba are the experts in these areas respectfully. (If I forgot a few, no disrespect, pls forgive me)
3.) My thing is shoes & accessories (I just added Tomba's edits to this roster initially for me to test but put it on 2kshare due to popular demand)
4.) I am patiently waiting for Tomba's 2.0

However, if anyone needs assistance w/ anything, u know I'm down to help out! Lemme know

[Hassan Darkside]

Re: Nogster's Roster 2.0 for 360 *RELEASED*

I like them too accept for the fact that it messes with rotations. I can always maintain two versions for people that like them and for people that don't.

Much appreciated. I suppose I'll hold out another week or so to start my association. I can get back into CHoops or something.

Also, can you take a look at adding Vyaras's coaching sliders? Well you don't have to cuz I know you're busting your rump right here, but Serra did some testing and found they put up more realistic stats as a whole.

[TrajanLK121]

Re: Nogster's Roster 2.0 for 360 *RELEASED*

Just got home and took a look at Rashidi's new update. The new update is the exact roster merger I released. Not sure if the Tendencies are Nogsters, didn't look, but the ratings are the same with Tomba's speed and dribble edits. Nice April fools joke, oh that's right, it's not April yet.

Much appreciated. I suppose I'll hold out another week or so to start my association. I can get back into CHoops or something.

Also, can you take a look at adding Vyaras's coaching sliders? Well you don't have to cuz I know you're busting your rump right here, but Serra did some testing and found they put up more realistic stats as a whole.

It won't take a week. I'll have it out tonight or tomorrow. And I am including Vyaras' coach profile settings for offensive tempo, fastbreak, and run plays. Interested to see what other people see. I think they go very well with Nogster's other coach profile settings.

[d12orlando]

Re: Nogster's Roster 2.0 for 360 *RELEASED*

Awesome about the Vyaras' coach profile settings.

On another note I think Rashidi has a point on being victimised (I may be a tad guilty on that). A bit emo maybe but he does contribute much. I thought it was a nice gesture that he took the time to explain his reasoning behind player position in THIS thread. Some might say it was an ego thing and that he needed to justify or prove his accuracy but the point is that he took some time to explain.

Edit: Just read what Trajan wrote. I remember reading Rash's annual announcement and it had something of hypocrisy in it.

Will your next release be a coach profile settings and remove Tomba's speed edits, or will it be your previous release with just the coach profile settings? Either way it'll be awesome

[Crossover1]

Re: Nogster's Roster 2.0 for 360 *RELEASED*

I just think this whole debate with Rashidi vs. OS is all just a misunderstanding on both sides. Relax and remember, it's just a damn game.

[TrajanLK121]

Re: Nogster's Roster 2.0 for 360 *RELEASED*

are you sure you copy the other guys roster because I'm seeing some ppl with off numbers. For example check out Anthony Parkers attributes they are off. Your edits have D.West just as good as him at 3's, and that he's a better outside shooter which is laughable.

Like I told you in the other thread, the only things that are different in the ratings are the potentials as I left in DC's and Nogster's edits and Tomba's edits to Ball Handles, Off hand Dribbling, Speed, and Quickness. Any claims that anything else is different like shooting ratings, is a load of crap.

[TrajanLK121]

Re: Nogster's Roster 2.0 for 360 *RELEASED*

Will your next release be a coach profile settings and remove Tomba's speed edits, or will it be your previous release with just the coach profile settings? Either way it'll be awesome

Yeah, I'm just taking out Tomba's speed and dribble edits for the people that don't like them and I'm adding in Vyaras' coach profile settings for offensive tempo, fastbreak, and run plays.

[Real2KInsider]

Re: Nogster's Roster 2.0 for 360 *RELEASED*

Just got home and took a look at Rashidi's new update. The new update is the exact roster merger I released. Not sure if the Tendencies are Nogsters, didn't look, but the ratings are the same with Tomba's speed and dribble edits. Nice April fools joke, oh that's right, it's not April yet.

Doesn't that make things so much easier for you?

[TrajanLK121]

Re: Nogster's Roster 2.0 for 360 *RELEASED*

Doesn't that make things so much easier for you?

It gives me a good laugh.