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  • Neon1
    MVP
    • Nov 2004
    • 1532

    #556
    Re: Neon1 2k10 (360)

    Originally posted by RayAP19
    I played 3 quarters vs the Jazz and everything was okay as far as what you could control.

    Carlos Boozer lit me up for 12 in the first and didn't see the court in the second (those are quarters, not halves). Also, Millsap didn't see the court in the first quarter. Frustrated me, as did a lot of other things, but like I said, nothing that was your doing.
    Dont know why that would happen...ill check it out.

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    • bamalam
      MVP
      • Nov 2002
      • 1407

      #557
      Re: Neon1 2k10 (360)

      appreciate the roster work. are player role changes included in this roster?

      another thread here saying just by changing player roles results in big changes for individual players.

      example, changing a star player from all-around to scorer results in player attacking much more aggressively.

      thanks for the roster. having some good games

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      • Neon1
        MVP
        • Nov 2004
        • 1532

        #558
        Re: Neon1 2k10 (360)

        Originally posted by bamalam
        appreciate the roster work. are player role changes included in this roster?

        another thread here saying just by changing player roles results in big changes for individual players.

        example, changing a star player from all-around to scorer results in player attacking much more aggressively.

        thanks for the roster. having some good games
        Really? I'll definately get that done if true. Has anyone actually visually confirmed this?

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        • Crossover1
          MVP
          • Feb 2009
          • 1925

          #559
          Re: Neon1 2k10 (360)

          No it doesn't. I have Lebron as all-around and he dropped 24 pts, 7 rbs, and 5 assists ONLY in the 1st QTR. Tendencies control what the players do. He was attacking every single time too.
          'Only The Strong Survive'

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          • RayAP19
            Banned
            • Oct 2006
            • 2668

            #560
            Re: Neon1 2k10 (360)

            Originally posted by Serra11
            Have made other tests Ray???
            Do the teams drive more now with the new coach profiles???
            Yeah, they do. And I don't know if it was coincidence or not, but I went up big against Utah and Deron basically took over the game after not looking to score much in the first quarter.

            Also, I played the Lakers and Odom came in at SF at one point. Kobe should be their backup SF, and his secondary position is even set to SF. I didn't know why they did that.
            Last edited by RayAP19; 03-03-2010, 01:11 PM.

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            • bamalam
              MVP
              • Nov 2002
              • 1407

              #561
              Re: Neon1 2k10 (360)

              Originally posted by Crossover1
              No it doesn't. I have Lebron as all-around and he dropped 24 pts, 7 rbs, and 5 assists ONLY in the 1st QTR. Tendencies control what the players do. He was attacking every single time too.
              you could be right, but 1 qtr is a small sample size. these guys think it might be something to investigate further.

              http://www.operationsports.com/forum...mentality.html

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              • Crossover1
                MVP
                • Feb 2009
                • 1925

                #562
                Re: Neon1 2k10 (360)

                Trust me this happens every game i play against Cavs. They are the hardest team to contain for me because he drives all the time and gets a lot of and 1's. Play-Style does not affect how they play, tendencies do. What sense would there be to put tendencies there and have a style of play affect how they behave on the court?
                'Only The Strong Survive'

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                • bussiejr
                  Rookie
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 120

                  #563
                  Re: Neon1 2k10 (360)

                  well play styles could still have something to do with tendencies. maybe scoring guards penetrate more to score, while pass first guards penetrate to create open oppurtunities for others.

                  how about point forwards? maybe they recieve alot more posessions than most forwards, since they are supposed to create offense for the team like a pg would

                  do rebounding big men box out quicker?

                  i know i could be way off base here, but then again i may not.

                  just a few ideas, i wouldn't write this off until tested
                  Believe in the ball and throw yourself!

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                  • bamalam
                    MVP
                    • Nov 2002
                    • 1407

                    #564
                    Re: Neon1 2k10 (360)

                    Its all cool man. tendencies would make common sense, im just saying there is a thread discussing player "styles" , and wondered if there was something to it. those posting in that thread seem to think there is. i dont have time to test it all out, so i raised the question.

                    like i said, im getting good games with neon's roster at the moment, looking forward to final version for my association.

                    just adding to the discussion. roster gurus can figure it all out.

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                    • Neon1
                      MVP
                      • Nov 2004
                      • 1532

                      #565
                      Re: Neon1 2k10 (360)

                      I need a you guys to run off a little list of guys (non PG's) that dominate the ball even as much as too run and inatiate the offense.

                      I recently changed the Cavs playbook to have most all plays involve the ball being handed to LBJ almost immediately after crossing halfcourt. Mo is basically playing SG now and spotting up while Bron runs things.

                      I made the change because Mo Williams was dominating the ball too much IMO. Also this gets LeBron a lot more involved Pts and Ast's wize.

                      Any other teams else need this? Think last year's Orlando Magic with Turkoglu as point forward.

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                      • Neon1
                        MVP
                        • Nov 2004
                        • 1532

                        #566
                        Re: Neon1 2k10 (360)

                        Originally posted by RayAP19
                        I played 3 quarters vs the Jazz and everything was okay as far as what you could control.

                        Carlos Boozer lit me up for 12 in the first and didn't see the court in the second (those are quarters, not halves). Also, Millsap didn't see the court in the first quarter. Frustrated me, as did a lot of other things, but like I said, nothing that was your doing.
                        Ok, i tried a million different things and the ONLY WAY to stop this from happening is to either

                        A.) Change Okur to PF/C and Millsap and Boozer to C/PF.
                        B.) Change Krylo and Kufos to PF/C, and Kirelenko to SF/PF.

                        On court it plays perfect, and subs are spot on.

                        I choose to change the 2nd since id rather them be mis-labled then the bigger names, AND they wont see the light of day at PF anyways behind Boozer and Millsap and Kirelenko.

                        So when they do enter, it should be at C.

                        If one or two of the frontcourt players get into foul trouble, the Jazz 'in theory' should move to a smaller quick lineup with AK47 at PF (Which is something they really do). Two of Mathews,Miles or Korver should be in with that lineup.

                        Note: If AK is rated higher than Millsap he needs to be SF only.


                        So until i can figure something else out...it just is what it is.
                        Last edited by Neon1; 03-04-2010, 06:51 AM.

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                        • Serra11
                          MVP
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 1127

                          #567
                          Re: Neon1 2k10 (360)

                          Originally posted by Neon1
                          I need a you guys to run off a little list of guys (non PG's) that dominate the ball even as much as too run and inatiate the offense.

                          I recently changed the Cavs playbook to have most all plays involve the ball being handed to LBJ almost immediately after crossing halfcourt. Mo is basically playing SG now and spotting up while Bron runs things.

                          I made the change because Mo Williams was dominating the ball too much IMO. Also this gets LeBron a lot more involved Pts and Ast's wize.

                          Any other teams else need this? Think last year's Orlando Magic with Turkoglu as point forward.
                          Wow!I like these changes!
                          And what is the situation Neon???
                          Are there new teams with all the edits???
                          Do you need help???
                          Boots..........To ASSES!!!!!!

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                          • Neon1
                            MVP
                            • Nov 2004
                            • 1532

                            #568
                            Re: Neon1 2k10 (360)

                            Originally posted by Serra11
                            Wow!I like these changes!
                            And what is the situation Neon???
                            Are there new teams with all the edits???
                            Do you need help???
                            Yeah i need help getting stuff in. Ive been getting a bunch of job offers already, so ive been a little pre-occupied. When are you free?

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                            • Neon1
                              MVP
                              • Nov 2004
                              • 1532

                              #569
                              Re: Neon1 2k10 (360)

                              Also guys...Im testing a few more teams gameplay and there seems to be a few teams STILL paint cheesing. Cavs and Celts were two, but i think ive calmed that down a little after some playbook changes and profile inside shot edits.

                              Jazz and Lakers (testing now) are definately cheesing big, ill make some edits to them after this game ends. Lakers had 60 p.it.p. Jazz 52. Jazz arent that bad since they average 48 in real life. Lakers were +15 thier average though.

                              Lakers are running that lazer pass play where the center (bynum) dives hard down the middle of the paint and fisher drops it in for the dunk OVER AND OVER.

                              Im removing it.

                              OH....and AK47 is HUGEMONGOUS...Im going to list him back to his 218 pounds. Dude looks like Shaq out there.
                              Last edited by Neon1; 03-04-2010, 07:04 AM.

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                              • Serra11
                                MVP
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 1127

                                #570
                                Re: Neon1 2k10 (360)

                                Originally posted by Neon1
                                Yeah i need help getting stuff in. Ive been getting a bunch of job offers already, so ive been a little pre-occupied. When are you free?
                                Tomorrow I have time:I can start editing from10 a.m my time,so there will be 4 am eastern time.
                                Also in the afternoon I can continue.
                                At what time tomorrow do you think you will edit the roster Neon???
                                Boots..........To ASSES!!!!!!

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