Sim-Style Gameplay Rosters

[wepr3]

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I plan on making a scale during the next phase of roster editing. It won't make it into v1.0 since it will require simulating some seasons in Association, but should be in within the next couple of weeks.

This is where global editing would come in handy. I remember last year going through the roster and lowering potential for every single player by 10-20.

One other question about your current roster - are the guards doing less pump faking in the paint?

[BroMontana82]

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maybe take a look at ronyell's potential scale based on DC's work?

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...nfo-tools.html

[youALREADYknow]

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maybe take a look at ronyell's potential scale based on DC's work?

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...nfo-tools.html

It's a simple scale, but I like it as a base "range" to work off. Potential is such a subjective rating that I'd like to use current OVR and Age as objective measures to build into a scale which gives me a number rather than having to guess somewhere in a 10 pt range. If you look at my spreadsheets, they are all built this way in order to remove any biases that I might have.

[youALREADYknow]

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This is where global editing would come in handy. I remember last year going through the roster and lowering potential for every single player by 10-20.

One other question about your current roster - are the guards doing less pump faking in the paint?

I haven't gotten to SG's yet (will finish today or tomorrow), but PG's are more like themselves in the paint. Far fewer jump hooks from 5'9" guys, fewer aggressive backdowns, and more finishing drives into the paint. There is still some pump faking going on though and I'll work to bring the tendencies down on that.

Global editing would be so much better. Honestly considered getting the PC version just to be able to do more with modding, but I no longer have a desktop worthy of 3D gaming and didn't want to run this on my laptop.

[BroMontana82]

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It's a simple scale, but I like it as a base "range" to work off. Potential is such a subjective rating that I'd like to use current OVR and Age as objective measures to build into a scale which gives me a number rather than having to guess somewhere in a 10 pt range. If you look at my spreadsheets, they are all built this way in order to remove any biases that I might have.

i like where your heads at. i don't have much time this year to do a roster but i worked on it last year with ronyell. the hardest part was with rookies and having to be subjective based on how good we thought they were going to be. huge improvement as long as a scale is implemented and all POT are reduced

[youALREADYknow]

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i like where your heads at. i don't have much time this year to do a roster but i worked on it last year with ronyell. the hardest part was with rookies and having to be subjective based on how good we thought they were going to be. huge improvement as long as a scale is implemented and all POT are reduced

From your experience, at what Potential rating does an above-average player start to become too highly rated in the future?

[Mr_Riddick]

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Can you post a spreadsheet of the teams/players you have already edited?

[youALREADYknow]

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Can you post a spreadsheet of the teams/players you have already edited?

Here's a link to the spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...N2RHc&hl=en_US

Go to the Global Roster Changes to see the position specific tendency and hotspot changes which have been made for players and teams.

For this first release, only superstars and key players will have Player Specific tendencies which try to mirror their game. I'll document those in a separate sheet within that Google Doc once more game testing has been done. It's hard to mirror a player's real world dribbling and move tendencies without seeing them actually play some games under AI control and that takes time. I try to get at least 1-2 CPU/CPU games in each day to check out the impact in-game.

Still, right now all players should all play similar to their size and position which makes a huge huge impact on the gameplay. Fewer instances with big men out on the perimeter, less post up and post hooks from smaller guards, and more off-ball screening and off-ball movement in general.

[Serra11]

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Here's a link to the spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...N2RHc&hl=en_US

Go to the Global Roster Changes to see the position specific tendency and hotspot changes which have been made for players and teams.

For this first release, only superstars and key players will have Player Specific tendencies which try to mirror their game. I'll document those in a separate sheet within that Google Doc once more game testing has been done. It's hard to mirror a player's real world dribbling and move tendencies without seeing them actually play some games under AI control and that takes time. I try to get at least 1-2 CPU/CPU games in each day to check out the impact in-game.

Still, right now all players should all play similar to their size and position which makes a huge huge impact on the gameplay. Fewer instances with big men out on the perimeter, less post up and post hooks from smaller guards, and more off-ball screening and off-ball movement in general.

I don't know you(as operationsports member of course) and I don't remember if you were here last year about Nba2k11,but my feeling tells me tu stay with your roster.I did a lot for ronyell's roster last year and for Neon1's roster with Nba2k10 and it's a long task to make the game plays how it should.
When the first version of your project(I mean with EVERY current team on point) will be ready???
I also suggest you to keep this thread into account:
http://www.operationsports.com/forum...iation-19.html
These guys discovered many interesting things about potential.

[youALREADYknow]

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I don't know you(as operationsports member of course) and I don't remember if you were here last year about Nba2k11,but my feeling tells me tu stay with your roster.I did a lot for ronyell's roster last year and for Neon1's roster with Nba2k10 and it's a long task to make the game plays how it should.
When the first version of your project(I mean with EVERY current team on point) will be ready???
I also suggest you to keep this thread into account:
http://www.operationsports.com/forum...iation-19.html
These guys discovered many interesting things about potential.

I've been checking into that thread and a couple of others about Potential. That will be worked on starting next week, but I already have an idea of how to implement a scale for Potential. It shouldn't be too hard at all but it will take some time to edit each player.

I'll release the first version later tonight and hopefully you guys can give some good feedback that will help work on v2. There's still a LOT of work to do on individual player tendencies.

[atlplayboy23]

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Can you post your roster for those of us without xbox live

[jusman97]

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Is this going to look similar and play similar to ronyells?

[BrianU]

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sick of seeing c and pfs playing dumb at 3 pt line looking forward to these more I play.

are you gonna add dcs playbook edits here they are look good: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...tLdnc&hl=en_US

[youALREADYknow]

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Can you post your roster for those of us without xbox live

I'll upload the roster file, no problem.

[youALREADYknow]

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sick of seeing c and pfs playing dumb at 3 pt line looking forward to these more I play.

are you gonna add dcs playbook edits here they are look good: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...tLdnc&hl=en_US

Using my own playbook edits, but I'm completely open to suggestions from people who have downloaded the rosters and have quality feedback. There's far too much PnR featured in those playbooks IMO and it brings big men away from the paint too often from my experience.