HyperBaller/DCAllAmerican NBA 2k13 Comprehensive Roster Update - Round 3

[Hyperballer21]

Re: HyperBaller/DCAllAmerican NBA 2k13 Comprehensive Roster Update - Round 3

Now I don't notice PG's taking an inordinate amount of close range jumpers (10-12 feet). Sometimes they would even do the one-hand jump shot animation thing when they got to the basket but to far away to attempt a layup.

Is there anyway to alleviate this (other than to individually mess with the tendencies)? I just wanted to say that I'm only getting this problem with Point Guards. Everyone else seems to not have this problem.

Maybe i am reading this wrong, but what is the desired result? If you want floaters, you have to over emphasize "close shot" tendency in game sliders while having "attack the basket" high as well.

Side note: I did a complete overhaul with coaching profiles which have differentiated team playing styles (inside vs outside). Its fun to see the Rockets take 3's like there is no tomorrow while the Grizzlies force it inside.

[Serra11]

Re: HyperBaller/DCAllAmerican NBA 2k13 Comprehensive Roster Update - Round 3

Side note: I did a complete overhaul with coaching profiles which have differentiated team playing styles (inside vs outside). Its fun to see the Rockets take 3's like there is no tomorrow while the Grizzlies force it inside.

My suggestion for COACH PROFILES:
%Short
Following these stas http://hoopdata.com/teamxefg.aspx,

Inside shot:%Short x2
Close shot:%Mid x2
Medium shot:%Long x2
3pt shot:%3P x2
Attack the basket:%Rim x3

[Hyperballer21]

Re: HyperBaller/DCAllAmerican NBA 2k13 Comprehensive Roster Update - Round 3

My suggestion for COACH PROFILES:
%Short
Following these stas http://hoopdata.com/teamxefg.aspx,

Inside shot:%Short x2
Close shot:%Mid x2
Medium shot:%Long x2
3pt shot:%3P x2
Attack the basket:%Rim x3

Thanks for this. In theory, this formula sounds great, but what kind of results are you getting with these?

This is what I will be using for Coach Profiles:
-Inside Shot: (Close shot / 2)
-Close Shot: (100-3pt Shot)
-Mid Range Shot: 1
-3pt Shot: ((Attempts per game-10)/20) x 100
-Attack Basket: 1

<u>Close and 3pt shot ultimately determines how often a team will look inside:</u>
<b>Houston</b> - 10 cls, 90 3pt -> without any real inside threat, they will space the floor allowing Harden and Lin to penetrate.
<b>LA Lakers</b> - 30 cls, 70 3pt -> Despite having Gasol and Howard, they run the D'Antoni system, to utilizing their interior advantage.
<b>Memphis</b> - 80 cls, 20 3pt -> Very little threat from outside. The feed M. Gasol and Z-Bo in the post.

Inside shot is a half of Close shot. You will see smaller teams get a offensive board and kick it out to shooters as wells as see bigger teams and players go straight up after a board.

Midrange and Attack the basket at 1 - These a based on players' natural tendencies to drive, stop and pop, or shoot and uncontested shot if they are wide open.

[DukeC]

Re: HyperBaller/DCAllAmerican NBA 2k13 Comprehensive Roster Update - Round 3

Great work DukeC. If I sent you a google doc spreadsheet, could you input your edits?

Edit: Better yet, if you already did the entire league, could you send me your file so I can just copy and paste using Leftos' tool?




3pt tendency is one of the hardest tendencies just because anyone over 55 would just jack up a shot whenever they have the slightest opening. I will probably scale this down to make the max 75 instead of 99. Another theory I have is that if 3pt shot is higher than their other tendencies, they will use that as their primary shot. Maybe 3pt needs to be less than or equal to midrange for scorers? This would only apply to scores since we want those spot up guys to still shoot most of their shots from 3. I will test Rockets vs Blazers and update you.

How do I send you the file? Do I just upload it to 2K share and then you can save the roster on your flash drive and edit it?

Maybe i am reading this wrong, but what is the desired result? If you want floaters, you have to over emphasize "close shot" tendency in game sliders while having "attack the basket" high as well.

Side note: I did a complete overhaul with coaching profiles which have differentiated team playing styles (inside vs outside). Its fun to see the Rockets take 3's like there is no tomorrow while the Grizzlies force it inside.

Nope. Not more floaters, just passing the ball back out would do if they weren't able to drive all the way to the rim for a layup. I was seeing this primarily after a defensive rebound and they pushed the ball (I would of course pick up on the ball, they would crossover, get into the paint, I would recover and then they would chuck up a 10 footer. Darren Collison must've did this at least 10 out of the 18 shots he attempted) up the court.

Edit: I'm not sure if this would mess up the game engine or not but would you also consider lowering the rebounding ratings for teams starting guards (PG's in particular)?

I had guys like Steph Curry, Holiday, and Rondo averaging 6 rebounds a game (thus lowering the big men's numbers).

[skrewzilla]

Re: HyperBaller/DCAllAmerican NBA 2k13 Comprehensive Roster Update - Round 3

maybe switching rudy gay and jr smiths shoe brand to jordan 12s and giving beasley the jordan 4s (since they mimic the spizikes the most). larry sanders in the team color kd Vs and wilson chandler in the kobe 8s.

[youALREADYknow]

Re: HyperBaller/DCAllAmerican NBA 2k13 Comprehensive Roster Update - Round 3

3pt tendency is one of the hardest tendencies just because anyone over 55 would just jack up a shot whenever they have the slightest opening. I will probably scale this down to make the max 75 instead of 99. Another theory I have is that if 3pt shot is higher than their other tendencies, they will use that as their primary shot. Maybe 3pt needs to be less than or equal to midrange for scorers? This would only apply to scores since we want those spot up guys to still shoot most of their shots from 3. I will test Rockets vs Blazers and update you.

Yes to both statements. Same as in 2K12.

75 = High tendency to shoot from that range, so anyone with above 75 will jack from deep as if they have no conscience

The FG% side of it can't be fixed without rating players above 99 in Inside and re-scaling, but the in-game impact of a player's 3PT tendencies above 75 plays out exactly how you mentioned.

[Serra11]

Re: HyperBaller/DCAllAmerican NBA 2k13 Comprehensive Roster Update - Round 3

Close and 3pt shot ultimately determines how often a team will look inside:


Midrange and Attack the basket at 1 - These a based on players' natural tendencies to drive, stop and pop, or shoot and uncontested shot if they are wide open.

I'm not with you with these options.

If you want that a team look to the inside threats,rise to 100 look for post players and drop offensive tempo(it could be good for teams like Indiana,Utah and Memphis that play a sort of 90s offensive basketball).

Denver is the leader in the league for inside shots taken.
Not because the offensive post abilities or in-between game of his players(in fact their just 20th in %Short and 22th in %Mid) but because Karl wants that his backcourt players drive and attack the rim.
To emphasize this you have to raise Denver attack the basket(so every player of the roster will do this,think at Gallinari...) and drop Inside and Close shots in coach profile.

The same if you want to create a "jump shooting team",like Skiles Bucks and Bulls:raise take mid-range shots and drop attack the basket and look for post players.

[J_Posse]

Bump....

Gotta a status update or any worthwhile info until Thursday to quench our thirst, Hyper?

From Spurs Nation/Bills Backer Clubhouse

[Hyperballer21]

Re: HyperBaller/DCAllAmerican NBA 2k13 Comprehensive Roster Update - Round 3

Bump....

Gotta a status update or any worthwhile info until Thursday to quench our thirst, Hyper?

From Spurs Nation/Bills Backer Clubhouse

I'll have something up by Sunday. I've been doing some messing around with coach profiles and dribble tendencies. Re-did a few dunk packages as well, notably those in the dunk contest and athletic bigs so they don't look stiff (Anthony Davis comes to mind).

[Hyperballer21]

Re: HyperBaller/DCAllAmerican NBA 2k13 Comprehensive Roster Update - Round 3

I have an idea, but would like some input:

I am considering giving some veterans (12-15 plus years) either <b>Floor General</b> or <b>Defensive Anchor</b> sig skills. I feel that these players have a positive impact whenever they are on the floor due to their experience and I want to mimic this somehow. Although their skills may have decline, they are still on a team and have some sort of impact.

What do you guys think? What players come to mind? Grant Hill is one of them.

[gausec]

I have an idea, but would like some input:

I am considering giving some veterans (12-15 plus years) either <b>Floor General</b> or <b>Defensive Anchor</b> sig skills. I feel that these players have a positive impact whenever they are on the floor due to their experience and I want to mimic this somehow. Although their skills may have decline, they are still on a team and have some sort of impact.

What do you guys think? What players come to mind? Grant Hill is one of them.

I would say KG would be one as well, but I think you'd have to limit it as I feel not all vets give a boost but it's your roster

[Hyperballer21]

Re: HyperBaller/DCAllAmerican NBA 2k13 Comprehensive Roster Update - Round 3

I would say KG would be one as well, but I think you'd have to limit it as I feel not all vets give a boost but it's your roster

Of course. It is mainly for vets who have a strong locker room or on court effect on their teammates. Someone like Kenyon Martin may not be what he was a decade ago, but is desirable because of his leadership. I want those who play association mode to benefit from signing a vet mid season .

[Hyperballer21]

Re: HyperBaller/DCAllAmerican NBA 2k13 Comprehensive Roster Update - Round 3

Update:

All transcations are done and rosters are accurate as of 2/23 based off of espn.com

Have to do rotations and minutes.

[J_Posse]

Re: HyperBaller/DCAllAmerican NBA 2k13 Comprehensive Roster Update - Round 3

Can't wait...........



Does that mean that missing players like Patrick Beverly and Aron Baynes have been added to the roster?

[Hyperballer21]

Re: HyperBaller/DCAllAmerican NBA 2k13 Comprehensive Roster Update - Round 3

Can't wait...........



Does that mean that missing players like Patrick Beverly and Aron Baynes have been added to the roster?

Beverly is in. Have not added Baynes, yet.