HyperBaller/DCAllAmerican NBA 2k13 Comprehensive Roster Update - Round 3

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  • J_Posse
    Greatness Personified
    • Jun 2005
    • 11255

    #541
    Any chance that you could add the '03 or 05 San Antonio Spurs? I'd love to be able to play with Timmy Duncan at his pinnacle.

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    • Serra11
      MVP
      • Mar 2008
      • 1127

      #542
      Re: HyperBaller/DCAllAmerican NBA 2k13 Comprehensive Roster Update - Round 3

      I've done some tests with the Thunder.

      Westbrook tendencies:inside 10,CLOSE 100,mid 60 and touches 90.
      Durant tendencies:inside 10,close 10,mid 60,threes 60 and touches 90.

      With these coach profiles(inside 0,close 0,mid 100,threes 0),about the 60% of set plays were called for KD and the rest for Russell and Ibaka.

      But the interesting thing came with these coach profiles:inside 0,close 100,mid 0 and three 0.
      For sure,about 7/8 plays on ten were called for Westbrook and the rest for Durant(Ibaka has 0 in close shot).

      And also the Thunder pg,with close shot TENDENCIES at 100 did not forced those stupid,senseless,frustrating dribbling moves in the paint:if he had a good lane,he drove;if the help came,he passed the ball.


      So,in my opinion,coach profiles shot locations have a big influence to determine which player is going to have the most part of the plays called for(based on each player shot tendencies and touches) and a little effect to the decision of a player to shoot or not in certain zone(more affected by shot tendencies and hotspots).
      Last edited by Serra11; 04-03-2013, 07:15 PM.
      Boots..........To ASSES!!!!!!

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      • Hyperballer21
        MVP
        • Feb 2003
        • 2040

        #543
        Re: HyperBaller/DCAllAmerican NBA 2k13 Comprehensive Roster Update - Round 3

        Originally posted by MIPG1
        It sounds great, see what you can do, I'll think of some more teams, if you think of some more teams let me know. So the teams that are going to be fully implemented (Correct court, Jersey, and Team) are :

        Dream Team 2
        06 Rockets
        00 Raptors
        08 Celtics

        Right?
        Yes, those 4 teams would be the easiest to recreate since all of their courts, uniforms, etc are in the game.

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        • Serra11
          MVP
          • Mar 2008
          • 1127

          #544
          Re: HyperBaller/DCAllAmerican NBA 2k13 Comprehensive Roster Update - Round 3

          Originally posted by Hyperballer21
          As for other work, yes I have been making a lot of changes since I was not satisfied with the over use of pull up jumpers and the over dribbling the cpu uses whle in the paint.
          To solve the over dribbling in the paint,maybe gives high inside shot tendency only for the big men that tend to force inside or that ususally make some turnovers(like Perkins???),while for the backcourts players with an high drive tendencies,close shot higher than inside shot.In my previous tests with the Thunder worked.
          Just my suggestion,I'd would be very happy to say that this is the definitive solution to this issue!
          Last edited by Serra11; 04-03-2013, 07:16 PM.
          Boots..........To ASSES!!!!!!

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          • MIPG1
            Pro
            • Oct 2012
            • 634

            #545
            Originally posted by Hyperballer21
            Yes, those 4 teams would be the easiest to recreate since all of their courts, uniforms, etc are in the game.
            Fantastic, Vlad said that the REDitor should be out in 3 days at the latest so, when do you think this roster should be out (like a rough guesstamation)? 2-3 weeks?

            I've been thinking a lot about what teams you can fully implement but it is hard because a lot of the courts for these early 2000-2010 teams are not on disc! If the court is not on disc then you can only really play with them as the away team, if you play with them as the home team, then it will be on a fake create-a-team court (unless you don't mind the fake court, personally I do mind but it is your roster). Did you think if any teams that can be fully implemented?
            Last edited by MIPG1; 04-03-2013, 07:38 PM.

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            • MIPG1
              Pro
              • Oct 2012
              • 634

              #546
              Re: HyperBaller/DCAllAmerican NBA 2k13 Comprehensive Roster Update - Round 3

              Originally posted by J_Posse
              Any chance that you could add the '03 or 05 San Antonio Spurs? I'd love to be able to play with Timmy Duncan at his pinnacle.

              From Spurs Nation/Bills Backer Clubhouse
              That's a good one! I'm not sure if their court is on disc though, can you check? Thanks!

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              • miamibigthree
                Banned
                • Jul 2010
                • 635

                #547
                Re: HyperBaller/DCAllAmerican NBA 2k13 Comprehensive Roster Update - Round 3

                Originally posted by MIPG1
                Fantastic, Vlad said that the REDitor should be out in 3 days at the latest so, when do you think this roster should be out (like a rough guesstamation)? 2-3 weeks?

                I've been thinking a lot about what teams you can fully implement but it is hard because a lot of the courts for these early 2000-2010 teams are not on disc! If the court is not on disc then you can only really play with them as the away team, if you play with them as the home team, then it will be on a fake create-a-team court (unless you don't mind the fake court, personally I do mind but it is your roster). Did you think if any teams that can be fully implemented?

                You just made me S**T my pants

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                • MIPG1
                  Pro
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 634

                  #548
                  HyperBaller/DCAllAmerican NBA 2k13 Comprehensive Roster Update - Round 3

                  Originally posted by miamibigthree
                  You just made me S**T my pants
                  I got excited when I found out too! It says it right here!

                  Right above the picture of the picture of the REDitor itself! Lol

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                  • miamibigthree
                    Banned
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 635

                    #549
                    Re: HyperBaller/DCAllAmerican NBA 2k13 Comprehensive Roster Update - Round 3

                    I saw that on his blog, I must not have seen the approximation date.

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                    • mikenoob
                      All Star
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 5545

                      #550
                      Re: HyperBaller/DCAllAmerican NBA 2k13 Comprehensive Roster Update - Round 3

                      I don't think he technically meant it'll be released in 2-4 days. He says he will announce a projected release date, and this release date can range from within 2-4 days.

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                      • MIPG1
                        Pro
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 634

                        #551
                        Originally posted by mikenoob
                        I don't think he technically meant it'll be released in 2-4 days. He says he will announce a projected release date, and this release date can range from within 2-4 days.
                        Oh, maybe your right, I hope he releases it soon though, in Jaosming's tutorial videos, he says that it is in "a late beta stage" so hopefully it is released soon!

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                        • Hyperballer21
                          MVP
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 2040

                          #552
                          Re: HyperBaller/DCAllAmerican NBA 2k13 Comprehensive Roster Update - Round 3

                          For the courts, MOST teams will not have their 100% accurate court because they are not on the disk. I will pick and decide something that is closest to it. Even if it is not 100%, it will be fun trying to get each team right regardless.

                          Just to revise the of classic team list:

                          <b>Definite</b>
                          93 Suns: Must have Sir Charles in his peak. Not often he has a cyberface on the disc.
                          00 Raptors: Vinsanity at the peak of his athleticism
                          04 T'wolves: KG in his prime would be one of the highest rated players.
                          05 Suns: Nash's 1st MVP season, very athletic Amare and Marion, w/ excellent shooters surrounding them.
                          05 Spurs: Best combo of Timmy, TP, and Manu playing at a high level.
                          08 Celtics: My way to get Ray and Pierce in here. Great team none the less.
                          Dream Team 2 ('94) or 3 ('96): No explanation needed.

                          <b>On the fence</b>
                          04 Pistons: Good team of solid players. Made them last year so their ratings are done. But do they have the "fun" factor...
                          09 Cavs: Although the would be a fun team to play with, I probably won't include them. LeBron today is better than he was then. There is no way to make him "unclutch" in 2k13. I may just add them just to get Big Z in there.

                          <b>Unable to do</b>
                          01 Bucks: No signs of uniform or green/purple logo
                          05/06 Nets: No signs of NJ Nets logo.

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                          • MIPG1
                            Pro
                            • Oct 2012
                            • 634

                            #553
                            Originally posted by Hyperballer21
                            For the courts, MOST teams will not have their 100% accurate court because they are not on the disk. I will pick and decide something that is closest to it. Even if it is not 100%, it will be fun trying to get each team right regardless.

                            Just to revise the of classic team list:

                            <b>Definite</b>
                            93 Suns: Must have Sir Charles in his peak. Not often he has a cyberface on the disc.
                            00 Raptors: Vinsanity at the peak of his athleticism
                            04 T'wolves: KG in his prime would be one of the highest rated players.
                            05 Suns: Nash's 1st MVP season, very athletic Amare and Marion, w/ excellent shooters surrounding them.
                            05 Spurs: Best combo of Timmy, TP, and Manu playing at a high level.
                            08 Celtics: My way to get Ray and Pierce in here. Great team none the less.
                            Dream Team 2 ('94) or 3 ('96): No explanation needed.

                            <b>On the fence</b>
                            04 Pistons: Good team of solid players. Made them last year so their ratings are done. But do they have the "fun" factor...
                            09 Cavs: Although the would be a fun team to play with, I probably won't include them. LeBron today is better than he was then. There is no way to make him "unclutch" in 2k13. I may just add them just to get Big Z in there.

                            <b>Unable to do</b>
                            01 Bucks: No signs of uniform or green/purple logo
                            05/06 Nets: No signs of NJ Nets logo.
                            Great! By the way the Dream Team 3 jerseys are not on disc. All of those teams sound very fun to play with! This should turn out to be an ULTIMATE roster, the regular classic teams (that were in the game originally) will have the most accurate shoes, arena names for the classic teams and current will be correct, signature skills will be accurate, and on the other half we have the current teams that will also have the same greatness that the classic teams will have be great! And there will be the other added on classic teams! Thanks, Hyperballer, can't wait for this roster to be released!

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                            • Hyperballer21
                              MVP
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 2040

                              #554
                              Re: HyperBaller/DCAllAmerican NBA 2k13 Comprehensive Roster Update - Round 3

                              Originally posted by Serra11
                              To solve the over dribbling in the paint,maybe gives high inside shot tendency only for the big men that tend to force inside or that ususally make some turnovers(like Perkins???),while for the backcourts players with an high drive tendencies,close shot higher than inside shot.In my previous tests with the Thunder worked.
                              Just my suggestion,I'd would be very happy to say that this is the definitive solution to this issue!
                              Your test sounds good. Was this test done with my previous roster?

                              I think manipulating the coach profiles and sliders with your findings will achieve the result I am looking for. Currently in my roster, I have bigs at least 50 inside while their close shot is usually lower. I have perimeter players less than 50 inside for the most part. I may just Perhaps putting close shot at 50 minimum for driving perimeter players and doubling their runner tendency may solve this as well. do you mind testing this?

                              One thing I have noticed and I am about 85% sure of this: "Dribble tendencies were not meant for the new dribble stick" .

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                              • frozenfire100
                                Rookie
                                • Oct 2010
                                • 92

                                #555
                                Re: HyperBaller/DCAllAmerican NBA 2k13 Comprehensive Roster Update - Round 3

                                Are the jerseys that the Knicks wore for the last few years until this year on the disk? I personally like the appearance of those and would be very happy if I could use them again.

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