EXOGENESIS and VTCRB Draft Classes (Xbox 360)

[vtcrb]

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I just wanted to ask if offline link have the neweset update or still the first version?

Thank you in advance

The 1st version. I HOPE to have new Off-Line links for Draft Class and Roster Today.

[vtcrb]

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2013 draft class is amazing
best CAPS i've seen

i can tell you guys put in a lot of work
really appreciate this

association is gonna be fun thanks to this !!!!!!

Exogenesis33 did ALL the Face work. He does an AWESOME job.

[vtcrb]

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Updated OFF-Line link on 1st Post of thread, Thanks to Exogenesis

[NFCastle]

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Hey, just something you might want to put a note of on page 1 like you (vt) did by mentioning Rondo's touch rating on your roster thread, rather than releasing a whole new update for 1 name.


Shabazz "Muhammed" should be Muhammad


Surprised no one on here caught this prior to the release.

[WBA]

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Updated OFF-Line link on 1st Post of thread, Thanks to Exogenesis

Big thank goes from me to you and Exogenesis

[vtcrb]

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MAJOR UPDATE

We are ATTEMPTING to construct a REAL 2015 Draft Class. I have made a list on the 1st Post of the Page. I have been Updating the 2014 Class as well. IF we do a 2015 Class the list of Players will need to be Done ASAP. So if you have Suggestions, LEAVE a Scouting Report on the Player you want included in either 2014 or 2015 Class. If you just make suggestions WITHOUT a Scouting Report it will be ignored. We take alot of time putting these Classes together so we dont think it is too much to ask to take 5 minutes and make a Scouting Report if you want a Player Included.

[vtcrb]

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Ok I was Able to get 80 Prospects in 2014 and 2015 Draft Classes. The list in on the 1st Post of the Page. I will begin working on making the 2014 Class tonight. So any Player Additions to either 2014 or 2015 Classes, need to be made by 8pm EST TONIGHT.

[toliveanddieinsf]

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noticed you have raul neto PG from brazil in both drafts as well as jabari brown SG from missouri

just fyi

[toliveanddieinsf]

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since there are doubles of two players was wondering if you could possibly add one player even though it is after the 8pm EST deadline you set

Chris Walker, PF, Florida 6'10" 190 #10 Prospect overall according to ESPN150



Strengths:
The long thin combo-forward displayed a nice skill level and athleticism. Walker is more of a small forward who can step away from the basket or score facing the goal.Walker is a lob catcher on the break as he runs the floor like a Gazelle. He had nice touches on his passes especially in the open court moving at high speeds. Walker displayed excellent touch around the rim with either hand. He is an excellent shot blocker on or away from the ball. His handle is good enough to drive the ball from the high post to make a play at the rim.
Weaknesses:
In addition to adding strength he will need to work on his post footwork and moves. Walker needs a go to move on both sides of the lane. He will need to continue to build his perimeter skills as well although they are already pretty good for his size. Walker will also have to perform and stay focused on a consistent level to take his game to the next level.
Bottom Line:
Walker is very talented with tremendous upside. He has room to improve as an elite player, but has the physical gifts to get there. He has the potential to be a defensive stopper as his length creates problems for opponents. With continued progress to his game Walker should become one of the more sought after small forwards in this class.

He and Kasey Hill will make Florida compete with Kentucky next year

[vtcrb]

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since there are doubles of two players was wondering if you could possibly add one player even though it is after the 8pm EST deadline you set

Chris Walker, PF, Florida 6'10" 190 #10 Prospect overall according to ESPN150



Strengths:
The long thin combo-forward displayed a nice skill level and athleticism. Walker is more of a small forward who can step away from the basket or score facing the goal.Walker is a lob catcher on the break as he runs the floor like a Gazelle. He had nice touches on his passes especially in the open court moving at high speeds. Walker displayed excellent touch around the rim with either hand. He is an excellent shot blocker on or away from the ball. His handle is good enough to drive the ball from the high post to make a play at the rim.
Weaknesses:
In addition to adding strength he will need to work on his post footwork and moves. Walker needs a go to move on both sides of the lane. He will need to continue to build his perimeter skills as well although they are already pretty good for his size. Walker will also have to perform and stay focused on a consistent level to take his game to the next level.
Bottom Line:
Walker is very talented with tremendous upside. He has room to improve as an elite player, but has the physical gifts to get there. He has the potential to be a defensive stopper as his length creates problems for opponents. With continued progress to his game Walker should become one of the more sought after small forwards in this class.

He and Kasey Hill will make Florida compete with Kentucky next year

Great catch with that. I guess i overlooked those duplicates while typing so many names. I actually had Chris Walker in the Class but had him named Chris Young. Thanks for bringing this to my attention and I will get the duplicates off later on today after I run a few errands.

[McNutted]

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Possible omission from 2014. Long read. His shooting stroke is much improved this year. I know it is early yet, but he has seen a 4% jump in both 3pt % and FG%.

Spoiler

Devyn Marble, 6'6, Shooting Guard, Junior, Iowa


US Presswire


Kyle Nelson

After an unspectacular freshman season, Devyn Marble emerged from his father's equally troubled and legendary shadow as Iowa's second leading scorer during his sophomore season while wearing a variety of positional hats. Furthermore, though he wasn't known as a prolific scorer, he finished the season with a 31 point performance (7/8 3FG) in a loss to Oregon in the second round of the NIT. Following reports of a productive summer, expectations are high that Marble may follow his father footsteps as both a centerpiece of Iowa's offense and as an NBA prospect.

Standing 6'6, Marble possesses solid size for an NBA wing, but must continue to add bulk to his skinny 194-pound frame. Getting stronger is especially important because he's a smooth, rather than explosive athlete, deceptively quick with the ball in his hands, but not one to dominate defenders in transition or around the basket.

His size and decent overall physical profile are especially interesting when taking his offensive skill set into consideration. Marble is not a prolific scorer at this point in his career, as he only averages 11.5 points per game and 15.2 points per 40 minutes pace adjusted, but he improved in nearly every statistical category as a sophomore while embracing a variety of roles from being Iowa's starting point guard to the team's best shot creator. His versatility is exemplified by Synergy's Play Type Breakdown, in which Marble finds 20% of his offensive possessions in transition, 16% while spotting up, 16% in isolation sets, and 13% operating out of the pick-and-roll.

On paper, it would seem as though Marble's best asset is his much-improved perimeter shooting, as he made 39.3% of his attempts last season. A look behind the numbers, however, reveals that Marble finished the season absolutely on fire from beyond the arc, taking and making more shots than ever before in his career. Even during his hot streak he hardly looked the part of a knockdown shooter, though, lacking a consistent and quick release in which his right elbow has a tendency to fly out mid-release. Looking forward, he must continue to shoot as a junior like he did down the stretch last year.

Elsewhere, Marble has proven himself to be a solid scorer, especially from mid-range where he shows a variety of moves off the dribble to create space for open looks. He also does a good job of splitting defenders and getting into the lane, though he is just an average finisher overall. His 44.5% 2-point conversion rate reflects his struggles finishing efficiently around the basket, likely due to his average explosiveness and strength. Getting stronger would certainly improve matters, but so too would continuing to work on his ball-handling ability, particularly developing more advanced moves, and getting more comfortable finishing with both hands.

It's worth pointing out that while Marble is likely not a point guard at this or the next level, he was the second best passing wing in our database last season, averaging 4.8 assists per 40 minutes pace adjusted and his 2.07 assist/turnover ratio stacks up well even amongst point guard prospects. For a wing, he has an excellent basketball IQ, exemplified in his court vision and excellent instincts with the ball in his hands. He makes the right pass without hesitation, makes crisp entry passes, and can even run the pick-and-roll at times. He is a willing passer and an unselfish teammate, which will only make him a more attractive prospect if he improves as a scorer.

For all of his talent offensively, Marble doesn't stand out on defense. He doesn't show the desire to consistently stay in front of his man, but his length allows him to both remain a factor on the perimeter even after he is beaten and to grab 2.0 steals per 40 minutes pace adjusted. While he is not a particularly assertive player in general, his lack of aggressiveness can be particularly glaring on defense, especially when he lets his man finish inside or fails to contest perimeter shots. One is left with the impression that he could partially overcome his lack of strength to be an above average NCAA defender with increased effort and intensity.

Looking forward toward his junior season, Marble has established himself as a player to watch in the Big Ten. Scouts will be watching to see if he can become a more aggressive scorer while continuing to make strides with his jump shooting and defense. While he did a good job of revealing himself to be more than just Roy Marble's son, for better or for worse, he has the opportunity as a junior to distinguish himself further by taking full advantage of his expanding role in Iowa's offense to lead the Hawkeye's back to respectability after a long period of rebuilding.

From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com#ixzz2E6twANUK
http://www.draftexpress.com

[vtcrb]

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Possible omission from 2014. Long read. His shooting stroke is much improved this year. I know it is early yet, but he has seen a 4% jump in both 3pt % and FG%.

Spoiler

Devyn Marble, 6'6, Shooting Guard, Junior, Iowa


US Presswire


Kyle Nelson

After an unspectacular freshman season, Devyn Marble emerged from his father's equally troubled and legendary shadow as Iowa's second leading scorer during his sophomore season while wearing a variety of positional hats. Furthermore, though he wasn't known as a prolific scorer, he finished the season with a 31 point performance (7/8 3FG) in a loss to Oregon in the second round of the NIT. Following reports of a productive summer, expectations are high that Marble may follow his father footsteps as both a centerpiece of Iowa's offense and as an NBA prospect.

Standing 6'6, Marble possesses solid size for an NBA wing, but must continue to add bulk to his skinny 194-pound frame. Getting stronger is especially important because he's a smooth, rather than explosive athlete, deceptively quick with the ball in his hands, but not one to dominate defenders in transition or around the basket.

His size and decent overall physical profile are especially interesting when taking his offensive skill set into consideration. Marble is not a prolific scorer at this point in his career, as he only averages 11.5 points per game and 15.2 points per 40 minutes pace adjusted, but he improved in nearly every statistical category as a sophomore while embracing a variety of roles from being Iowa's starting point guard to the team's best shot creator. His versatility is exemplified by Synergy's Play Type Breakdown, in which Marble finds 20% of his offensive possessions in transition, 16% while spotting up, 16% in isolation sets, and 13% operating out of the pick-and-roll.

On paper, it would seem as though Marble's best asset is his much-improved perimeter shooting, as he made 39.3% of his attempts last season. A look behind the numbers, however, reveals that Marble finished the season absolutely on fire from beyond the arc, taking and making more shots than ever before in his career. Even during his hot streak he hardly looked the part of a knockdown shooter, though, lacking a consistent and quick release in which his right elbow has a tendency to fly out mid-release. Looking forward, he must continue to shoot as a junior like he did down the stretch last year.

Elsewhere, Marble has proven himself to be a solid scorer, especially from mid-range where he shows a variety of moves off the dribble to create space for open looks. He also does a good job of splitting defenders and getting into the lane, though he is just an average finisher overall. His 44.5% 2-point conversion rate reflects his struggles finishing efficiently around the basket, likely due to his average explosiveness and strength. Getting stronger would certainly improve matters, but so too would continuing to work on his ball-handling ability, particularly developing more advanced moves, and getting more comfortable finishing with both hands.

It's worth pointing out that while Marble is likely not a point guard at this or the next level, he was the second best passing wing in our database last season, averaging 4.8 assists per 40 minutes pace adjusted and his 2.07 assist/turnover ratio stacks up well even amongst point guard prospects. For a wing, he has an excellent basketball IQ, exemplified in his court vision and excellent instincts with the ball in his hands. He makes the right pass without hesitation, makes crisp entry passes, and can even run the pick-and-roll at times. He is a willing passer and an unselfish teammate, which will only make him a more attractive prospect if he improves as a scorer.

For all of his talent offensively, Marble doesn't stand out on defense. He doesn't show the desire to consistently stay in front of his man, but his length allows him to both remain a factor on the perimeter even after he is beaten and to grab 2.0 steals per 40 minutes pace adjusted. While he is not a particularly assertive player in general, his lack of aggressiveness can be particularly glaring on defense, especially when he lets his man finish inside or fails to contest perimeter shots. One is left with the impression that he could partially overcome his lack of strength to be an above average NCAA defender with increased effort and intensity.

Looking forward toward his junior season, Marble has established himself as a player to watch in the Big Ten. Scouts will be watching to see if he can become a more aggressive scorer while continuing to make strides with his jump shooting and defense. While he did a good job of revealing himself to be more than just Roy Marble's son, for better or for worse, he has the opportunity as a junior to distinguish himself further by taking full advantage of his expanding role in Iowa's offense to lead the Hawkeye's back to respectability after a long period of rebuilding.

From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com#ixzz2E6twANUK
http://www.draftexpress.com

Great suggestion. He was one of the guys i left off, because of the Duplicates. I have added him and Updated both 2014 and 2015 Classes. Feel Free to leave anymore suggestions. I am going to wait a few days and watch a few more games, before finalizing 2014 and 2015 Classes.

[toliveanddieinsf]

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Karl Towns Jr. just reclassified to the class of 2014, committing to Kentucky.

http://www.usatodayhss.com/news/article/karl-towns-picks-kentucky-reclassifies-to-2014

He is now the #3 prospect for the class of 2014



Strengths:
Karl is a tremendous prospect. He has nice size and length and has one of the most sought after skills in basketball...he can really shoot the ball! He has range to 25 feet and is a great catch and shoot player already.
Weaknesses:
He will need to improve his strength in order to become more effective in the paint offensively. That will allow him to be more versatile and tougher to guard. He is a decent athlete and will need to improve defensively and as a shotblocker. Towns is a decent rebounder right now which should improve as he gets stronger.
Bottom Line:
Towns is good now (as a freshman) and has a very good upside. Think Rasheed Wallace, Brian Cook or LaMarcus Aldridge down the line.

[vtcrb]

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Karl Towns Jr. just reclassified to the class of 2014, committing to Kentucky.

http://www.usatodayhss.com/news/article/karl-towns-picks-kentucky-reclassifies-to-2014

He is now the #3 prospect for the class of 2014



Strengths:
Karl is a tremendous prospect. He has nice size and length and has one of the most sought after skills in basketball...he can really shoot the ball! He has range to 25 feet and is a great catch and shoot player already.
Weaknesses:
He will need to improve his strength in order to become more effective in the paint offensively. That will allow him to be more versatile and tougher to guard. He is a decent athlete and will need to improve defensively and as a shotblocker. Towns is a decent rebounder right now which should improve as he gets stronger.
Bottom Line:
Towns is good now (as a freshman) and has a very good upside. Think Rasheed Wallace, Brian Cook or LaMarcus Aldridge down the line.

Nice. I added him to 2015 Class.

[ffaacc03]

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Karl Towns Jr. just reclassified to the class of 2014, committing to Kentucky.

http://www.usatodayhss.com/news/article/karl-towns-picks-kentucky-reclassifies-to-2014

He is now the #3 prospect for the class of 2014



Strengths:
Karl is a tremendous prospect. He has nice size and length and has one of the most sought after skills in basketball...he can really shoot the ball! He has range to 25 feet and is a great catch and shoot player already.
Weaknesses:
He will need to improve his strength in order to become more effective in the paint offensively. That will allow him to be more versatile and tougher to guard. He is a decent athlete and will need to improve defensively and as a shotblocker. Towns is a decent rebounder right now which should improve as he gets stronger.
Bottom Line:
Towns is good now (as a freshman) and has a very good upside. Think Rasheed Wallace, Brian Cook or LaMarcus Aldridge down the line.

As a fellow dominican that saw him play on the fiba americas, he is a wonderfull project that hope gets developed ... as raw as he was (is ?, thus mostly due to him being soo young), he has the potential to be really solid on both ends ... he managed to put some blocks and alter many shots just with his size ... hopefully, we get to see him play in the NBA along with the Al Horfords ... lol ...