Why are all the 2k14 rosters tendencies messed up ?

[nogster]

Re: Why are all the 2k14 rosters tendencies messed up ?

Without coach mode I am having a hard time telling if the CPU is running plays at all(since most are broken).

I have tired Run Plays in coach profiles at 0 and 100 and if there was difference it was not noticeable to me.

With 2K13. You could tell the cpu was running a play when the play starting position circle appeared on court.
This is how we discovered that the "Run plays" coach profile was backwards last year. Put it at 100 and after a def reb, the cpu would just fastbreak and drive the lane at all costs. no play run till the shot clock was nearly over. At 0. if they couldn't get a quick fast break the cpu would hold back and immediately call a play.
Select a team. put "run plays" at 100. switch play icons on. and after a defensive stop or rebound, take the ball up court and see how quickly the play icon appears. Do the same with "run plays" at 0.
This should determine what the slider needs to be.
Im getting the game tomorrow but have to work.
Can't wait to get my hands on this and start editing. Im disappointed with some of the restrictions but oh well. We will just have to make do.

[nogster]

Re: Why are all the 2k14 rosters tendencies messed up ?

I'm assuming you can still change plays in playbooks yeah?
It's just that discovering the broken plays from the good plays will be more tiresome as there is no practice mode anymore.
Correct?

[qpc123]

Re: Why are all the 2k14 rosters tendencies messed up ?

With 2K13. You could tell the cpu was running a play when the play starting position circle appeared on court.
This is how we discovered that the "Run plays" coach profile was backwards last year. Put it at 100 and after a def reb, the cpu would just fastbreak and drive the lane at all costs. no play run till the shot clock was nearly over. At 0. if they couldn't get a quick fast break the cpu would hold back and immediately call a play.
Select a team. put "run plays" at 100. switch play icons on. and after a defensive stop or rebound, take the ball up court and see how quickly the play icon appears. Do the same with "run plays" at 0.
This should determine what the slider needs to be.
Im getting the game tomorrow but have to work.
Can't wait to get my hands on this and start editing. Im disappointed with some of the restrictions but oh well. We will just have to make do.

With Run Plays @ 100, the play is called with 20 seconds left on the shot clock.

With Run Plays @ 0, play is called no earlier the 16 seconds left on shot.

Looks like it might function the way it is supposed too, but I still want to do more testing.

[rjohns23]

Re: Why are all the 2k14 rosters tendencies messed up ?

With Run Plays @ 100, the play is called with 20 seconds left on the shot clock.

With Run Plays @ 0, play is called no earlier the 16 seconds left on shot.

Looks like it might function the way it is supposed too, but I still want to do more testing.

Good deal, I'll do some testing too when I get home. Also, what about the early offense? What was that slider at? I wonder if the CPU runs an early offense and it's not there, do they go into a set play with the run play slider at 100.

[qpc123]

Re: Why are all the 2k14 rosters tendencies messed up ?

Good deal, I'll do some testing too when I get home. Also, what about the early offense? What was that slider at? I wonder if the CPU runs an early offense and it's not there, do they go into a set play with the run play slider at 100.

Forgot to mention that in the other post.

Early Offense was set to 50 by default. I set it @ 0 for the test because I wanted to be sure what I was seeing was a playbook play and not the early offense.

[qpc123]

Re: Why are all the 2k14 rosters tendencies messed up ?

I'm assuming you can still change plays in playbooks yeah?
It's just that discovering the broken plays from the good plays will be more tiresome as there is no practice mode anymore.
Correct?

Yes, you can still fully edit the playbooks.

Here is what I can say so far on the Playbook side.

I'll start with some positives for once.

When you are adding/changing plays in the playbooks, the game automatically sorts the plays for you so they are grouped by type and always appear in the same order. The order is: Isolation, Pick and Roll(goes P &R, Mid, Option, 3 pt), Post Up Low, Post Up High, Cutter, Mid Range, 3 PT.

When looking for plays in the left panel(best way I describe it, where you actually pick the plays) you can search the team playbooks or by play type, although is less useful at the moment since most of plays that worked last year are gone or renamed.

The biggest "positive" for me so far with playbooks is that the Classic Teams have remained unchanged. Why is this positive. Since the plays all still have the same name as 2k13 you can find the ones that worked last year.

Biggest problem outside of broken plays is that most if not all of the current team playbooks are totally renamed or replaced.

I think we should move this discussion: http://www.operationsports.com/forum...ry-thread.html

That way the title of the thread is closer to the actual topic of discussion.

[EAGLESFAN10]

Re: Why are all the 2k14 rosters tendencies messed up ?

When VTCRB,Beds,Vann, etc....are not atleast a little happy with 2K something is up BIG TIME

I'm not getting Current Gen 2K14 but its crazy that they would do the things they did for this game like SMH

Atleast with a Good roster and Decent Slider Set 2K13 play a good game of Basketball

Which is why I sticking with it until Next Gen NBA 2K14 and NBA Live 14

[rjohns23]

Re: Why are all the 2k14 rosters tendencies messed up ?

When VTCRB,Beds,Vann, etc....are not atleast a little happy with 2K something is up BIG TIME

I'm not getting Current Gen 2K14 but its crazy that they would do the things they did for this game like SMH

Atleast with a Good roster and Decent Slider Set 2K13 play a good game of Basketball

Which is why I sticking with it until Next Gen NBA 2K14 and NBA Live 14

Yea I feel you on this. The big question and I mean big is whether 2k will even address these concerns with the next gen. I have a feeling that they won't. They may add a new feature but will not touch things like the hardcoded tendencies and other areas that are necessary for a great roster. I just see with the next gen that they will focus on graphics, presentation, and more canned animations... I hope not though. I hope they address these issues.

[EAGLESFAN10]

Re: Why are all the 2k14 rosters tendencies messed up ?

Yea I feel you on this. The big question and I mean big is whether 2k will even address these concerns with the next gen. I have a feeling that they won't. They may add a new feature but will not touch things like the hardcoded tendencies and other areas that are necessary for a great roster. I just see with the next gen that they will focus on graphics, presentation, and more canned animations... I hope not though. I hope they address these issues.

I'm big on Presentation, Graphics, Animations as I am Gameplay

These issues really need to be fixed

[jmarcguy]

Re: Why are all the 2k14 rosters tendencies messed up ?

I made the playbook adjustments Vann detailed last year & with tweaks to some other things had a great year of basketball!! Totally enjoyed it!! I mostly play offline association. After reading this thread, I'm not sure I'll even buy the game. I'm waiting til next year to upgrade my console though.