PuntNL's NBA 2K11 slider tweaks (for use with the Real 2K Insider roster)

[PuntNL]

Re: PuntNL's NBA 2K11 slider tweaks (for use with the Real 2K Insider roster)

How is v4.1 working so far guys? Will not update these for something like a week probably, want to get more games in and also test some of the findings of A&S and greenieblue to see what that does to the game. Would still like to know if people are having issues like jake44np had and if reverting back the quickness to 50 helps.

[tommykarma]

Re: PuntNL's NBA 2K11 slider tweaks (for use with the Real 2K Insider roster)

How is v4.1 working so far guys? Will not update these for something like a week probably, want to get more games in and also test some of the findings of A&S and greenieblue to see what that does to the game. Would still like to know if people are having issues like jake44np had and if reverting back the quickness to 50 helps.

Hi everybody, i started my association with raptors using your sliders and roster, i hope to help you to find the definitive slider set , i'm playing a lot of games so i think it's a good test for you !

p.s I tweaked def reb to 0 for cpu and user

Knicks@Raptors
p 103-84
fg 40-95/31-77
3p 10-28 / 8-23
ft 13-16 / 14-23
ast 23-19
reb 57(15)-38(3)
stl 7-4
to 7-10
blk7-5
fls 14-12

cavs@raptors
p 79-103
fg 32-81 / 41-77
3p 11-26 /5-20
ft 4-5 / 16-17
ast 21-23
reb 35(6)-47(7)
stl 4-7
to 9-9
blk 0-4
fls 13-5

raptors@kings

p 100-88
fg 38-80/ 34-75
3p 11-24 / 3-17
ft 13-18 /17-25
ast 21-19
reb 48(7)-39(4)
stl 7-9
to 11-6
blk 2-2
fls 19-11

raptors@jazz

p 105-98
fg 42-74 / 35-76
3p 10-20 / 8-27
ft 11-14 / 20-26
ast 25-22
reb 43(8)-30(6)
stl 4-10
to 12-6
blk 2-3
fls 16-11

raptors@lakers

p 104-97
fg 36-74 / 41-89
3p 10-21 / 4-18
ft 22-26 / 11-13
ast 21-20
reb 42(7)-42(9)
stl 6-9
to 15-9
blk 5-2
fls 12-17

i like very much the gameplay, i played very good but maybe is a little too easy I won in utah and L.A., Bargnani is the league top scorer 29.2(60%-56%3p) and calderon 1st in ast 10.8.

torono is shooting 49.2% (2nd in nba) 3p 40.7%(5) ast 21.8(2)
reb 43.6(23) d reb37.2(2) o reb 6.4(30) stl 5.6(28) blk 4.0 (16)
t.o. 12.2(27) fls 12.6 (30)

impressions:
fg % too high for both
3p fg% too high for user
few fouls reaching and shooting

I'm gonna play in portland, i hope i was helpful for you sliders experts good work and sorry for my english

[jake44np]

Re: PuntNL's NBA 2K11 slider tweaks (for use with the Real 2K Insider roster)

How is v4.1 working so far guys? Will not update these for something like a week probably, want to get more games in and also test some of the findings of A&S and greenieblue to see what that does to the game. Would still like to know if people are having issues like jake44np had and if reverting back the quickness to 50 helps.

After playing 4 more games last night in my Jazz season I am still liking version 4.0 better and I am switching back to it.
With version 4.1 the players tire too quickly, there are way too many shooting fouls, and the game just doesnt flow well.
I ave. 40 ft attempts per game in my 4 games last night. The commit fouls at 80 is way too high, when playing with it at 70 in version 4 I thought it was too high. At 80 it is really too high. I am putting fatigue back to 50 also, at 45 players tire after about 2 or 3 minutes of play. By the way I didnt loose a game using version 4.1 because it is way too easy to get easy points at the line. Almost every dump down to the low block results in a made shot or a shooting foul. With version 4.0 I was 6-4 in my Jazz season.

[tommykarma]

Re: PuntNL's NBA 2K11 slider tweaks (for use with the Real 2K Insider roster)

raptors@blazers 105-103

fg 40-65 61%/ 39-80 48%
3p 5-13 38% / 5-15 33%
ft 20-23 /20-29
ast 21-23
t.o. 21 !!!-5
fls 20-14
reb 45(5)-25(4)
stl 4-14
blk 0-0
pitb 56-44

calderon buzzer beater

[PuntNL]

Re: PuntNL's NBA 2K11 slider tweaks (for use with the Real 2K Insider roster)

After playing 4 more games last night in my Jazz season I am still liking version 4.0 better and I am switching back to it.
With version 4.1 the players tire too quickly, there are way too many shooting fouls, and the game just doesnt flow well.
I ave. 40 ft attempts per game in my 4 games last night. The commit fouls at 80 is way too high, when playing with it at 70 in version 4 I thought it was too high. At 80 it is really too high. I am putting fatigue back to 50 also, at 45 players tire after about 2 or 3 minutes of play. By the way I didnt loose a game using version 4.1 because it is way too easy to get easy points at the line. Almost every dump down to the low block results in a made shot or a shooting foul. With version 4.0 I was 6-4 in my Jazz season.

Hmm strange.. Will play more games myself and take all these things into account towards the next update. I am trying to get kind of an universal slider set, however certain play styles just need some adjustments, fouls is definitely one of them. Are you driving a lot and using the turbo quitte often? Thanks man!

@tommykarma Thanks for all the stats my man. Overall I like your stats pretty much, balancing turnovers is a point of focus for the next update. You could maybe give the purple adjustments a try to get a bigger challenge and better (in your case lower) fg%'s.

[PuntNL]

Re: PuntNL's NBA 2K11 slider tweaks (for use with the Real 2K Insider roster)

Another small test. Tested two halfs of Knicks @ Raptors in association to test the impact of the player speed slider. Game was CPU vs CPU with my v4.1 sliders and fouls turned off to just see the amount of field goals.



1st one with player speed at 0 --> total of 92 FGA's


2nd one with player speed at 100 --> total of 100 FGA's

So again not a huge impact on the amount of field goals, only animations wise you could maybe choose to lower the player speed slider a little. However I'll keep ignoring it as I already wasn't a fan of it, because you can only use it in Association mode. And the impact on stats is very very minimal.

[greenieblue]

Re: PuntNL's NBA 2K11 slider tweaks (for use with the Real 2K Insider roster)

Another small test. Tested two halfs of Knicks @ Raptors in association to test the impact of the player speed slider. Game was CPU vs CPU with my v4.1 sliders and fouls turned off to just see the amount of field goals.



1st one with player speed at 0 --> total of 92 FGA's


2nd one with player speed at 100 --> total of 100 FGA's

So again not a huge impact on the amount of field goals, only animations wise you could maybe choose to lower the player speed slider a little. However I'll keep ignoring it as I already wasn't a fan of it, because you can only use it in Association mode. And the impact on stats is very very minimal.

Nice work again, Punt.

Very Interesting. I am quite surprised.

[Fiddy]

Re: PuntNL's NBA 2K11 slider tweaks (for use with the Real 2K Insider roster)

Another small test. Tested two halfs of Knicks @ Raptors in association to test the impact of the player speed slider. Game was CPU vs CPU with my v4.1 sliders and fouls turned off to just see the amount of field goals.

So again not a huge impact on the amount of field goals, only animations wise you could maybe choose to lower the player speed slider a little. However I'll keep ignoring it as I already wasn't a fan of it, because you can only use it in Association mode. And the impact on stats is very very minimal.

man, you have a bad case of slideritus lol..

just stop and enjoy the game

[PuntNL]

Re: PuntNL's NBA 2K11 slider tweaks (for use with the Real 2K Insider roster)

man, you have a bad case of slideritus lol..

just stop and enjoy the game

LOL, pretty good diagnosis! Believe it or not, but I actually enjoy this process! However I think I am getting kind of close to finalizing this set, still tweaking and finetuning some sliders though!
Hope that the rashidi roster will be final/complete by christmas and this set probably even some time before that.

But keep the stats and feedback coming guys!

[greenieblue]

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Slideritus! Lol.

I'm about to slideritus my Ps3 out the window. It's like I've gone blind.

I need to finish here soon, or I'll never play the game again. I can feel it going there.

[PuntNL]

Re: PuntNL's NBA 2K11 slider tweaks (for use with the Real 2K Insider roster)

Got a new version with some tweaks incoming. Probably in couple of hours. I think this is very close to final. Next I want to test what Greenieblue (Purist sliders) came up with (after his enormous statistical testing) and see if some of his work could be carried over to this slider set, however as this set is designed for use with the Rashidi roster, tendencies and attributes will be left alone for the most part and I'll keep sticking to my philosophy of adjusting as less as possible.
So will only look if it can help in some of the problem areas. It's kind of quiet on the statistic and feedback side, so I hope those will come again from you guys after v4.2 so it can help me to work to the final set!

[BoA]

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Looking forward to the update; I will try a few games and post some stats to help out with feedback once they are posted. I will probably play tomorrow, so don't rush on my account LOL

[PuntNL]

Re: PuntNL's NBA 2K11 slider tweaks (for use with the Real 2K Insider roster)

Okay, slight delay as OSforums were unavailable last night (my local time). After that wasn't able to post them anymore, so had to wait until now. v4.2 is in the opening post. Note that the changes in red are the changes from v4.0 to v4.2! I deleted the quickness slider (which means it is back at default) as I didn't see enough evidence for it doing any work. So please try them out and post your findings and feedback.

Also interested how the shooting success (inside, mid, 3p) works for you guys, I lowered 3pt by 1 to 53 (which probably is best as 54 just gives a little bit too many high 3pt% games. (best value would probably be 53.5, but hey that's not possible).

Furthermore a more satisfying game in the turnover and steal department now and I slightly lowered driving contact shot frequence.
Good luck and enjoy! Hope to finish these up in a week or so!

[RedNation89]

Re: PuntNL's NBA 2K11 slider tweaks (for use with the Real 2K Insider roster)

First game with v.2

Cavs (me) VS. 76ers

88 Points 90
37\78 Field Goals 38/87
47% Field% 43%
8/17 3-Points 4/13
47% 3-Point% 30%
19 Assists 20
17 Turnovers 7
12 Team Fouls 6
47 Total Reb. 43
6 Offen. Reb. 9
4 Steals 12
5 Blocks 2
44 Points in the paint 46
27 Bench points 35
6 Second chance points 14
8 Fast break points 10

It was a funny game. In the 2nd quarter i led by 16, but the sixers had a great run on the third and came back. On 88-88 I had a bloddy TO followin by a fastbreak dunk. Mo Williams failed the lbuzzer beater.

Too less CPU's TO?
Too less CPU's fouls?

[PuntNL]

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Hehe another loss for you :-). Fouls and TO's are a huge problem area, don't think I can make it much better than this anymore. How Is the shooting success across the floor working for you?

Just had a game as the knicks vs the heat. Great one, I was able to hang in for a long time, because I had a great night from downtown (like the Knicks can have). Happy to see that with 3pt succes tweaked down to 53! Other areas I was dominated by the Heat so a tough loss. Will post the stats later today!