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  • MuteSuperstar
    Rookie
    • Feb 2007
    • 1

    #256
    Re: TRUEGAMER'S 0 THEORY SLIDERS FINAL SET

    TG, just wanted to thank you for all of your work on these. Just won a great overtime thriller, and the numbers were spot-on and the feel/flow was as good as I've seen on this game. Thanks again.

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    • KBomber
      Pro
      • Nov 2003
      • 512

      #257
      Re: TRUEGAMER'S 0 THEORY SLIDERS FINAL SET

      First let me say that the sliders help a lot, however...

      For some reason, offensive rebounding by the CPU is still a bit wonky and the defensive logic CPU teammates just continues to confound and frustrate me in this game.

      While the CPU is hitting wide open 3's to hurt me, the reason why those 3's continue to be wide open is due to my wings or PG continually dropping down into the lane to help on players without the ball, leaving their men uncovered on the perimeter -- and I mean WIDE open -- usually when those opposing wings are a simple and direct pass away from the ball handler at the time.

      I really don't get what I can do to address this because the issue goes beyond the statistics of the gameplay. I can hold the CPU to a low 40's FG%, but with the Offensive Rebounding that's happening and the high volume of 3's that go unguarded and made, there are a number of controller tossing moments just waiting to happen.

      Fundamentally, the actual code for this game is flawed and it makes playing an act of frustration. My team is good and not great, but even when I execute, it seems like the results aren't where they should be and overcoming the CPU AI both teammate and opponent is onerous. I'm generally happy with how these sliders deliver my offensive production and I'm challenged to execute the offense diversely IMO with realistic results in terms of my FG% and Offensive Rebounding rate

      To be honest, I don't have the time to continually go in and adjust sliders and players, etc. and I think more and more that the onus should be on the developer to create a sound game out of the box.

      So many things to like about this game except the core gameplay logic and that's the bit that 2K HAS TO nail down in a big way


      Have fun.....
      Basketball made me the man I am today; Arthritic and Bitter...

      What I think I think:
      • Y'know, I've never played less NBA 2K than I did with NBA 2K12
      • Sports VG titles were REALLY disappointing in 2011-12
      • Thank Heaven for ME3 and Arkham City -- saved my winter

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      • Truegamer
        Banned
        • Sep 2011
        • 492

        #258
        Re: TRUEGAMER'S 0 THEORY SLIDERS FINAL SET

        Thats not the sliders thats your defense next game you play go to defensive setting when it says double team it will be at auto. Go to auto and put never. Now the defense will be more disciplined to stay with there man. Thats not the sliders thats you not using your defense correctly I garuntee they wont try to cheat in they will now stay with there man.

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        • Truegamer
          Banned
          • Sep 2011
          • 492

          #259
          Re: TRUEGAMER'S 0 THEORY SLIDERS FINAL SET

          Hey guys roster will be out sometime today been having a hard time with some players

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          • Monix
            Rookie
            • Feb 2012
            • 39

            #260
            Re: TRUEGAMER'S 0 THEORY SLIDERS FINAL SET

            i just want to thank you again for the work you've done. great great job!
            i made some minor adjustments and now they fit perfectly. I'm back to really love playing the game now! thank you very much!

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            • Truegamer
              Banned
              • Sep 2011
              • 492

              #261
              Re: TRUEGAMER'S 0 THEORY SLIDERS FINAL SET

              Your welcome if you have a ps3 you should try this roster later they will be good.

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              • KBomber
                Pro
                • Nov 2003
                • 512

                #262
                Re: TRUEGAMER'S 0 THEORY SLIDERS FINAL SET

                Originally posted by Truegamer
                Thats not the sliders thats your defense next game you play go to defensive setting when it says double team it will be at auto. Go to auto and put never. Now the defense will be more disciplined to stay with there man. Thats not the sliders thats you not using your defense correctly I garuntee they wont try to cheat in they will now stay with there man.
                The question isn't if there should or shouldn't be double teaming by teammates, but how and when those DT's come. You can't show me an NBA team that doubles down on players without the ball from the strong side of the court. If you can show me video of that, you will have impressed me. That is what's happening.

                I have a highlight on my page at 2K sports -- watch the SG. He doubles down in the lane on an opposing big without the ball, leaving the opposing SG open. That's an AI issue. DT's happen in the NBA. Having to toggle that off to prevent stupid DT's from being rampant by eliminating the concept of DT's altogether is the sign of a flawed product. I've played EVERY iteration of this game. The frustration of this one is unmatched. I know that the developers tried to put a lot of neat things into the game, but they have failed with this product.
                Basketball made me the man I am today; Arthritic and Bitter...

                What I think I think:
                • Y'know, I've never played less NBA 2K than I did with NBA 2K12
                • Sports VG titles were REALLY disappointing in 2011-12
                • Thank Heaven for ME3 and Arkham City -- saved my winter

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                • keshunleon
                  MVP
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 2111

                  #263
                  Re: TRUEGAMER'S 0 THEORY SLIDERS FINAL SET

                  Originally posted by KBomber
                  First let me say that the sliders help a lot, however...

                  For some reason, offensive rebounding by the CPU is still a bit wonky and the defensive logic CPU teammates just continues to confound and frustrate me in this game.

                  While the CPU is hitting wide open 3's to hurt me, the reason why those 3's continue to be wide open is due to my wings or PG continually dropping down into the lane to help on players without the ball, leaving their men uncovered on the perimeter -- and I mean WIDE open -- usually when those opposing wings are a simple and direct pass away from the ball handler at the time.

                  I really don't get what I can do to address this because the issue goes beyond the statistics of the gameplay. I can hold the CPU to a low 40's FG%, but with the Offensive Rebounding that's happening and the high volume of 3's that go unguarded and made, there are a number of controller tossing moments just waiting to happen.

                  Fundamentally, the actual code for this game is flawed and it makes playing an act of frustration. My team is good and not great, but even when I execute, it seems like the results aren't where they should be and overcoming the CPU AI both teammate and opponent is onerous. I'm generally happy with how these sliders deliver my offensive production and I'm challenged to execute the offense diversely IMO with realistic results in terms of my FG% and Offensive Rebounding rate

                  To be honest, I don't have the time to continually go in and adjust sliders and players, etc. and I think more and more that the onus should be on the developer to create a sound game out of the box.

                  So many things to like about this game except the core gameplay logic and that's the bit that 2K HAS TO nail down in a big way


                  Have fun.....
                  I feel ya, one thing I had to do is reduce the cpu off rebound to 50, the cpu cheats and your player will have great position but will stand there or the ball will slide through their hands.

                  I also put off, def aware, blocks to 0, turned contest shots down to 25 and it fixed the cpu PG's blocking PF and C's on dunks.
                  True bout my business, Mane!

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                  • Truegamer
                    Banned
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 492

                    #264
                    Re: TRUEGAMER'S 0 THEORY SLIDERS FINAL SET

                    BIG FIND GUYS CHANGE
                    INSIDE SHOT TO 100
                    CLOSE SHOT 100
                    MIDRANGE SHOT 100
                    LOOK FOR POST 100

                    YOU WONDER WHY PLAYERS WAIT FOR THE CLOCK TO END ALOT? THIS IS WHY THEY WILL SHOT MORE SHOTS NOW WHEN OPEN AND WONT PAST UP ON SHOTS AS MUCH. GAMEFLOW WILL FEEL MUCH BETTER. AND NOW PLAYERS WILL BE CAPABLE OF GETTING MORE REBOUNDS.
                    Last edited by Truegamer; 02-16-2012, 03:06 AM.

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                    • KwiLL23
                      Pro
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 704

                      #265
                      Re: TRUEGAMER'S 0 THEORY SLIDERS FINAL SET

                      TG,

                      You and Bedwardsroy19 saved the f*** out 2k this year! I thank the both of you for that. The both of you need to be hired by 2k and one more thing my guy, I love your roster. I'm torn between yours and Bed. though lol. Thanks for the fun gameplay.

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                      • FreakSportz
                        Rookie
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 56

                        #266
                        Re: TRUEGAMER'S 0 THEORY SLIDERS FINAL SET

                        Originally posted by Truegamer
                        BIG FIND GUYS CHANGE
                        INSIDE SHOT TO 100
                        CLOSE SHOT 100
                        MIDRANGE SHOT 100
                        LOOK FOR POST 100

                        YOU WONDER WHY PLAYERS WAIT FOR THE CLOCK TO END ALOT? THIS IS WHY THEY WILL SHOT MORE SHOTS NOW WHEN OPEN AND WONT PAST UP ON SHOTS AS MUCH. GAMEFLOW WILL FEEL MUCH BETTER. AND NOW PLAYERS WILL BE CAPABLE OF GETTING MORE REBOUNDS.
                        Good finding... Play different game and CPU play solid offence now.

                        Thank you

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                        • Truegamer
                          Banned
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 492

                          #267
                          Re: TRUEGAMER'S 0 THEORY SLIDERS FINAL SET

                          Thanks guys im bout to put it on ps3 for them because this makes the game so much different.

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                          • bbb20098
                            Rookie
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 17

                            #268
                            Re: TRUEGAMER'S 0 THEORY SLIDERS FINAL SET

                            hey tg i want to say great sliders and will these work on coach mode as well. i havnt downloaded your roster yet but i will thanks alot.

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                            • themmzoo502
                              Rookie
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 27

                              #269
                              Re: TRUEGAMER'S 0 THEORY SLIDERS FINAL SET

                              Originally posted by Truegamer
                              themzzzzo 52 if they are to easy for you then there are like 15 other sliders you can go to I doubt you beat them that bad but if you did the only logical thing is to go up another level. But doing that they cheat you so use some other slider or get cheated, simple as that.

                              And its funny that everybody that got something bad to say bout these sliders JOIN DATE IS FEBUARY 2012 TO OPERATION SPORTS. SO I KNOW WHO YOU ARE JUST CUT IT OUT THEY ARE JUST SLIDERS IN A GAME.
                              I was just asking what I can do to fix it... thought maybe I was missing something...

                              calm down... I'm not saying these are bad sliders, they obviously work for others just not me for some reason, thought maybe i was missing something... And I did beat the Heat by 36 (using the Knicks), why would I make that up?

                              You know who I am?? Do you think I am a double account or something? lol

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                              • Truegamer
                                Banned
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 492

                                #270
                                Re: TRUEGAMER'S 0 THEORY SLIDERS FINAL SET

                                If it is you I apoligize but people up here who dont like me make fake accounts. They think im to stupid to notice. But I just made some changes today maybe that will help.

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